NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 2 - What's the magic number ?

probably something im going to be struggling with all preseason but im starting to lean towards having 1 centre position hopefully sorted all year given that Thompson is a risk to play long term then I dont want to be relying on Alomoti Talau.

Currently as it stands im looking at Holmes Thompson with Alomti Talau in the 18-21.

The cost of it though is i lose a gun down to a mid pricer.

TU: Holmes + Boyd
TD: R.Smith/HTF + Carrigan/Cotter

Keep an eye on Preston from the dogs at 230k he has been taking first team reps at right edge with RFM at lock. Obvs might not be starting rd 1 but he has massive wraps and seems to be impressing.

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Holzman wrote:probably something im going to be struggling with all preseason but im starting to lean towards having 1 centre position hopefully sorted all year given that Thompson is a risk to play long term then I dont want to be relying on Alomoti Talau.

Currently as it stands im looking at Holmes Thompson with Alomti Talau in the 18-21.

The cost of it though is i lose a gun down to a mid pricer.

TU: Holmes + Boyd
TD: R.Smith/HTF + Carrigan/Cotter

I’ve been thinking similar too, one centre that you can stand on for the first 10 rds or so partnered with a cheapie wildcard like alamoti

Probably overestimated the rookie cash cows that popped up in previous years. Lacking those 2 obvious ones that everyone is set on but I guess they’ll come once TLT does. Lacking the ones that seemed destined to gun it like Grant or Haas is not much of a surprise/shock if those come at all it often isn’t until part way through the season

FalconSloth wrote:Probably overestimated the rookie cash cows that popped up in previous years. Lacking those 2 obvious ones that everyone is set on but I guess they’ll come once TLT does. Lacking the ones that seemed destined to gun it like Grant or Haas is  not much of a surprise/shock if those come at all it often isn’t until part way through the season

Haas came in Round 5 the year he took off. Was ideal because you could just trade one of your failed cheapies to him. And there are *always* failed cheapies.

rhinoceroo wrote:

Haas came in Round 5 the year he took off. Was ideal because you could just trade one of your failed cheapies to him. And there are *always* failed cheapies.

Grant was R3

I think the last time there was a lot of R1 cheapies was 2019 (Bateman as an underpriced gun, Nikora/Luai/CNK as no brainers at base of near enough, and quite a few others cheap)

robelgordo wrote:

Cheers.

I thought about green (5+games), orange (3-4), red (1-2) but it looks busy. But I think it’s a fair point. For example I would get a Teddyor DCE at R10 if he’s totally bottomed out in price then

I still haven’t grappled with how to use the info. I suspect I’ll still just ignore byes until like R8 then panic

For H2H players it looks much less complicated than for overall

Lighter shades of green would likely do the trick

I think seeing fantasy in stanzas isn't that foolish.
E.g. R1-8 (squad value growth + score maximization), then R9-14 (first byes and planning), R15-19 (serious bye balancing), R20- end game

The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:
The last rumour I heard was Bateman next to Doueihi and the coaching staff very impressed with Matamua. Regardless, we’ll have a very cheap 2RF in Matamua or Blore so it really doesn’t matter. We’ll find out when Bateman actually arrives and see where he trains at. Tgen hopefully we’ll have one trial before TLT. Benji has already told Ofa he isn’t a lock apparently!

Sheens and Benji want an up tempo attack focused team, part of that suits a ball playing lock. Neither seen worried about leaning on youth.
Joffa seems very unlikely to fill the luck role, despite a great season there last year - he's a tuck the ball under the arm style player, even if they are doing 200 passes a day...

Matamua is pretty raw, but there's a lot of belief in his first grade potential. Rua Ngatikaura has been training at lock as well and almost certainly debuts at some point this season.
Tumeth is also rated and apparently been going great in the preseason.

There'll almost certainly be some base price value there somewhere, but Tim Sheens isn't the most predictable, so hopefully Trials give an indication

rhinoceroo wrote:

Isn't it just that there aren't (so far) any rookie hookers or kicking halves, who are the most guaranteed moneymakers? Schneider last year for example.

Add Gennings on the Storm wing as a potential 250k player and Mooney at the Raiders as this year's Max King...

King had age and some experience on his side, had something like 40 games going back to 2017. Mooney is more likely this year's Moale if you look at how Stuart introduces young MIDs, they get 20-30 minutes off the bench.

rhinoceroo wrote:

Haas came in Round 5 the year he took off. Was ideal because you could just trade one of your failed cheapies to him. And there are *always* failed cheapies.

Milchcow wrote:It works like that almost every year. Most of the best cash cows will not play round 1.

60% of the time it works every time.

FalconSloth wrote:Probably overestimated the rookie cash cows that popped up in previous years. Lacking those 2 obvious ones that everyone is set on but I guess they’ll come once TLT does. Lacking the ones that seemed destined to gun it like Grant or Haas is  not much of a surprise/shock if those come at all it often isn’t until part way through the season

Hey FS, who do you reckon will be goal kicker for the titans this year?

Schoupp? or Tanah Boyd?

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

Hey FS, who do you reckon will be goal kicker for the titans this year?

Schoupp? or Tanah Boyd?

Surely it's Boyd? Kicked well last year when Isaako was out. Schoupp has been behind not only Burton, but Flanagan, Wakeham and Avo.

Just a hunch but if there is this much debate about which one of the Tigers 15,000 forwards will get enough minutes to make it worthwhile picking them up the answer is likely to be none of them.

Everyone will end up with at least one questionable bench prop in their starting team, ostensibly there for 'cover & 'cash cow' reasons but really because they had fuck all money left for those last couple of places

mattnz wrote:

King had age and some experience on his side, had something like 40 games going back to 2017. Mooney is more likely this year's Moale if you look at how Stuart introduces young MIDs, they get 20-30 minutes off the bench.

King also showed a good ppm in the trials and the ability to offload. He definitely passed the eye test before rd 1

Aardvark wrote:Just a hunch but if there is this much debate about which one of the Tigers 15,000 forwards will get enough minutes to make it worthwhile picking them up the answer is likely to be none of them.

Everyone will end up with at least one questionable bench prop in their starting team, ostensibly there for 'cover & 'cash cow' reasons but really because they had fuck all money left for those last couple of places

I don't know about everyone else but for me, I'm only picking any of them if they start - if Matamua is on the bench I'm not touching him and same for Blore and Uto.

robelgordo wrote:

Surely it's Boyd? Kicked well last year when Isaako was out. Schoupp has been behind not only Burton, but Flanagan, Wakeham and Avo.

That sounds good in theory, but in reality Schoupp was only ever behind Burton. None of the others kicked any goals in any of the games Schoupp played.

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

That sounds good in theory, but in reality Schoupp was only ever behind Burton IRL. None of the others kicked any goals in any of the games Schoupp played.

Avo did in 2021, Flanagan did R7 2022 plus a NSW Cup game a few weeks earlier. Wakeham has in NSW Cup