NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 30 - Worst performance I've seen in Weekes

The Bludger#2 wrote:

He's def on my watchlist.
The Dragons are still running a huuge / power forward pack. Hook's gameplan seems to be bash-em-up and run over them.
Limited minutes due to aerobic fitness levels.
Couchman is that wiry fit forward type of body who can pump out big minutes.

Only worry is JDB starting to get more and more minutes. He’s capable of big mins

MF wrote:

Only worry is JDB starting to get more and more minutes. He’s capable of big mins

JDB actually got less minutes than last week. Weird.

mickspicks wrote:

Wasn't carty the initial back up? Only got promoted to the 80 due to injuries? Fantasy wise he has been solid but IRL he has had moments, but kind of underwhelming.

As for Hopgood, yeah, this week he is okay and will be interesting how he is used next week - guessing 30?

Back up for Doorey, who is now not in the side.

Brad Arthur likes big minutes EDGs and MIDs for that matter - he also is known not to use his fourth bench spot at all. Hopgood will get decent minutes for the forseeable future and those trading him out will regret it for sure. Most likely Makatoa/Grieg play very small impact roles in the future while Murchie sits on the pine going forward.

Could be that Doorey comes back to take over Carty, however, for the immediate future, I think there are concerns that he is not suited to playing 80 yet. Maybe a stint in reggies to build match fitness

mickspicks wrote:

JDB actually got less minutes than last week. Weird.

Same as Lawrie who got less too. Maybe Griffon is going to start pushing the younger fellas more.

Even give those new signings a whirl

After watching the NSWcup Waqa is not going to be back in first grade anytime soon

Arthur and Ogden playing NSW cup so no changes to the Eels 17 (no guarantee there's no positional switching)

Matamua not playing cup for the Tiges. Could be a late in/out or could just be 18th man.

MF wrote:After watching the NSWcup Waqa is not going to be back in first grade anytime soon

Prob going to super rugby

Been playing with some figures - maths and all that - with my bank ($400k) + Carty + Loiero + HSS, I can pick up Hynes (who this is all for) + Couchman (cashcow chance) + Okunbor (there are literally no decent cheap WFBs and I'm gambling on Oko being given the Foxx's wing).

Worth the 3 trades?

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

Back up for Doorey, who is now not in the side.

Brad Arthur likes big minutes EDGs and MIDs for that matter - he also is known not to use his fourth bench spot at all. Hopgood will get decent minutes for the forseeable future and those trading him out will regret it for sure. Most likely Makatoa/Grieg play very small impact roles in the future while Murchie sits on the pine going forward.

Could be that Doorey comes back to take over Carty, however, for the immediate future, I think there are concerns that he is not suited to playing 80 yet. Maybe a stint in reggies to build match fitness

Murchie seems good for 30. Makatoa last year anywhere from 10 - 30. Paulo coming back. You'd think Hopgood gets decent mins but I'm not sure how it exactly plays out. I'm sure he will blitz it as I traded him out lol

mickspicks wrote:

Murchie seems good for 30. Makatoa last year anywhere from 10 - 30. Paulo coming back. You'd think Hopgood gets decent mins but I'm not sure how it exactly plays out. I'm sure he will blitz it as I traded him out lol

Hopgood isn't an 80 min forward. He had a couple of missed tackles in the Eels early matches that led to tries. It was pretty obvious that he was gassed. Arthur needs to keep his mins at 60 - 65 so he can be the tackle-bot we all love.
Surely Matters + Lane are better Edge forwards than Carty?
Hopgood isn't there for impact, he's there to keep the middle tight in D.
But, I have no idea of the inner workings of Arthur's brain.

mickspicks wrote:

Murchie seems good for 30. Makatoa last year anywhere from 10 - 30. Paulo coming back. You'd think Hopgood gets decent mins but I'm not sure how it exactly plays out. I'm sure he will blitz it as I traded him out lol

I think you will find that Makatoa/Murchie will not play that many minutes. Murchie played minutes because Doorey was not capable of playing 80. Makatoa averaged just a tick over 20 minutes per game last year. It is very common for Arthur not to use one of his benchies. Cartwright last year for example played an average of less than 15 minutes in the games he got on the field (many weeks he sat on the bench the entire game playing zero - not included). That is likely to continue this year for one of the players on the bench. If Carty starts on the EDG he will continue to score well. It is also safe to say that Matterson/Hopgood will share the role on LOCK with Hopgood taking the bulk of the minutes and Matterson playing most of his minutes in the middle even after Paulo is back.

GreenSchist wrote:

Won’t last..

request to shift this over-achiever to another league please

bloody well done mate

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

I think you will find that Makatoa/Murchie will not play that many minutes. Murchie played minutes because Doorey was not capable of playing 80. Makatoa averaged just a tick over 20 minutes per game last year. It is very common for Arthur not to use one of his benchies. Cartwright last year for example played an average of less than 15 minutes in the games he got on the field (many weeks he sat on the bench the entire game playing zero - not included). That is likely to continue this year for one of the players on the bench.  If Carty starts on the EDG he will continue to score well. It is also safe to say that Matterson/Hopgood will share the role on LOCK with Hopgood taking the bulk of the minutes and Matterson playing most of his minutes in the middle even after Paulo is back.

I agree with this. RCG and Paulo will have their minutes cut back and they will go to Matterson.

The Bludger#2 wrote:

Hopgood isn't an 80 min forward. He had a couple of missed tackles in the Eels early matches that led to tries. It was pretty obvious that he was gassed. Arthur needs to keep his mins at 60 - 65 so he can be the tackle-bot we all love.
Surely Matters + Lane are better Edge forwards than Carty?
Hopgood isn't there for impact, he's there to keep the middle tight in D.
But, I have no idea of the inner workings of Arthur's brain.

I agree, I really feel Hopgood either comes into the run-on side and plays 65mins, or comes on for one of the props and plays 65mins through the middle.

Either way, the guy is too good & impactful to sit on the pine.

We will know more today. Means he will be a 50-53 point average, he is looming as my vehicle to Hynes.

mattnz wrote:
I agree with this. RCG and Paulo will have their minutes cut back and they will go to Matterson.

Whilst I tend to agree, I don't think that was the initial plan for Brad. His use of the bench is totally cooked. I think Carty loses out and Hopgood plays a lot less than he should. But I don't know shit

The Bludger#2 wrote:Been playing with some figures - maths and all that - with my bank ($400k) + Carty + Loiero + HSS, I can pick up Hynes (who this is all for) + Couchman (cashcow chance) + Okunbor (there are literally no decent cheap WFBs and I'm gambling on Oko being given the Foxx's wing).

Worth the 3 trades?

If you’ve got Cleary + SJ I think you can hold off Hynes while SJ is matching Hynes for 350k less (if you bought at 646k)

Might be a chance of Sharks being in grinding matches without Finucane and Rudolf and not scoring as many points as well which may affect Hynes

I was guilty of going too hard early this season for high price guns (Robson R2, Bird R3) and team balance shows. You’re likely better off getting 2 700k guns I reckon

this question is for vsdt...who would you play out of utoi, carty or hopgood for my last reserve. cheers.

Chewie wrote:
Yeah, may need to refresh the EMG bench a bit, Couchman and Luke are appealing

Luke with those minutes is definitely appealing. What happened in game? quite the boost this week

MF wrote:

WFB and Kenny letting me down

Heres hoping Luke starts for Kenny next week and Boyd and Foran are the halves for the Titans. It will make next week so much easier

Both teams 1-17

booooo, no excitement