NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 31 - So many trade out options, but no trade in ones

Milchcow wrote:

Assuming your other MIDs don't have a bye coming soon (Maybe Ford in R12 is most likely to be next bye) then its probably OK.

Just be prepared to spend a trade if one of your starters goes down for more than a week.

mintotheimmortal wrote:

Carrigan and Haas will be partnering him.

ShadowSabre wrote:

Beginning to suspect we have the same team

Rabbit wrote:

mattnz wrote:

Nowhere in his post did he ever mention McInnes. Not once.

Why do you insist on everybody agreeing with your selections? McInness could well be a total bust. There are definitely better buys out there. His team is at the pointy end for a reason. Ditto yours. Good luck this week.

Rabbit wrote:

Nowhere in his post did he ever mention McInnes. Not once.

Why do you insist on everybody agreeing with your selections? McInness could well be a total bust. There are definitely better buys out there. His team is at the pointy end for a reason. Ditto yours. Good luck this week.

No Worries wrote:

@Rabbit smashing it in VSDT this year

mattnz wrote:


McInnes vs Smith is a great comparison of guys you want in your playing 17 or don't. You can agree with it or not. Not sure how long you have played fantasy, but McInnes has always been a gun player, capable of great fantasy scores with decent minutes. He is about to get decent minutes.

Happy to voice that Teddy / Smith / Weekes looks like a mistake, especially when it adds a 7th or 8th Origin player, to assist someone who is doing well, and provide some alternative options for Smith, one at a lower price point that should score as well as him, and another at a higher price point that should significantly outscore him.

rhinoceroo wrote:Crossland will score as well as BSmith is certainly a take, following on from a lot of similarly confident and outlandish takes.

FaringdonSwirl wrote:

Are they in the MID position? Interested to hear who they are if so.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
Maybe in comparison to current price?

I wouldn’t say it’s a crazy take

mattnz wrote:

If you need to play Smith in your 17, he seems like a 30-50 player at the moment. Could be really frustrating having him there. Much prefer grabbing Bird if you can. How will you find the cash for him if you don't get him this week?

Smith doesn't solve your round 13 HOK problem. You could grab JMK to resolve this. He is now playing 80 minutes and scoring well. A lot of the attacking play is going through him, especially since Sullivan is no longer there and since getting 80 minutes, is averaging just 2 points less than Robson, for $100k less.

Tedesco isn't an urgent buy. Has a high BE that he hasn't come close to hitting yet this season and is a significant HIA risk. If he has another in the next week or 2, in addition to a low score, Roosters would need to be cautious with him returning, probably out a few weeks. You could easily wait on him, until he starts scoring well, without needing to get him at a higher price point, with a higher chance he misses his BE than getting it. While Smith has a lower BE, he also hasn't had a game that would make him worth selecting yet. You already have 6/7 likely Origin players, do you want to add a 7th/8th? I am deliberately avoiding them and will have 1 after this week.

Teddy, Smith and Weekes looks like 3 unnecessary compromises that have the chance to ruin a great start to the season.

Bird is a guaranteed upgrade on Alamoti.

Couchman could go either way, with Bird, JDB and Lawrie all capable of huge minutes and Hook under pressure to deliver results, not necessarily to develop young talent. Unlikely that he reproduces a 2 OFH game, that he hasn't shown in other rounds. Looking like another guy you don't want playing in your 17, like Sele, BMM, Warbrick.

Crossman likely scores as well as Smith for $100k less and will have better bye cover, available R13 and 16.

McInnes is a low risk play with massive upside and a great POD over others at the top of the rankings. Getting a genuine gun, who has dropped $160k and has never failed to deliver when his team has needed him to step up. Its what made him such a great fantasy player at Dragons. At worst you are getting a good scoring lock for 3 weeks and likely continues with a 60 minute role after that, like he had last season when Rudolf was out. 2nd year back from ACL is also ideal, as players typically have lower output in their first year back from ACL.

If you miss McInnes and others pick him up, it will be a significant disadvantage. Only $115k more than Smith for likely much better scoring that you will actually want in your playing 17, should be getting 50s and 60+s the next few weeks, not hoping to miss what have been Smith's best scoring in 30s and 40s this season, with a breakout game, that he hasn't shown yet this season.

GreenSchist wrote:

Cheers for the detailed assessment Matt.

Hooker wont be an issue as I will be pairing Smith with Robson. Will still need to figure out Rd 19 though.
I'm not sold on McInnes, so happy to let that one get away. by having Teddy, I'm not forced to play Warbrick, so that decision is locked.

Trades pre Origin look a little like this:

Rds 9 - 13
Grant to Robson + ~$80k
Burton to Bird
Alamoti to cheapie
Murray to Tohu

Use the remaining generated funds to upgrade someone to Matterson.

That gives me 12/13 roster spots filled for Round 13, with only WFB to fill.

All in all, I think it's pretty low risk and I'm not missing out on Bird.

rhinoceroo wrote:

I think the world-class player who averages well over 50 when playing 60+ at actual hooker will score significantly higher over the next couple of months than Phoenix Crossland splitting dummy half duties with Kurt Mann, yes.