NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 31 - So many trade out options, but no trade in ones

Honey Badger wrote:I dont think Mcinnes is as clear cut as people think. Four fwd bench and we haven't seen what Grahams minutes are going to be like yet. We know he will be playing in the middle unless there is an injury. Finucane is averaging 50 minutes. Do we think Mcinnes gets more than that? Im happy to wait on Mcinnes.
BSmith will at some point go on a good run of scores. Roosters getting plenty of troops back. Definitely one to watch at his current price

If you wait a week then there is really no point is there? You either get the full 3 weeks or just move onto someone else. 

Fotuaika is actually pretty tempting after having a look

rhinoceroo wrote:

Fotuaika, Horsburgh, Leo Thompson, Taumalolo if he gets his arse into gear.

Maybe none of them will be good buys, but they all have potential. As does McInnis, but only McInnis has been pushed on here.

Yeah I've looked at Fotuaika, Leo, and McInnes. I just can't do Raiders MIDs with how Ricky mucks them around. Lolo could be anything, but need to see something first.

After looking into MoFo and Leo I think they look like 45 avg guys. Think McInnes looks more likely of a 50-60, at least for the next 3 weeks.

I might just get Couchman and play him this week. Next week would be a toss up between him and Uto, and then I'd be wanting Tapine for round 9.

Honey Badger wrote:I dont think Mcinnes is as clear cut as people think. Four fwd bench and we haven't seen what Grahams minutes are going to be like yet. We know he will be playing in the middle unless there is an injury. Finucane is averaging 50 minutes. Do we think Mcinnes gets more than that? Im happy to wait on Mcinnes.
BSmith will at some point go on a good run of scores. Roosters getting plenty of troops back. Definitely one to watch at his current price

Finucane was averaging 50 minutes with McInnes and Rudolf playing. McInnes will have neither of Finucane or Rudolf the next 3 weeks, then Rudolf missing after that, a huge difference.

If McInnes and Rudolf were out with Finucane playing, he gets 60-70 minutes at lock too.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
I mean Crossland scored 50+ in one game at hooker. Smith hasn't done it at all this year.

I’m not saying that will continue for Cheese at the Roosters but it’s not looking good

The Crossland tacklebot hooker game he played 72 minutes with no Mann on the bench. His coach has said they'll split the role. He might make a bit of money but I'd be playing Smith iny 17 over him ten times out of ten.

Also, Crossland is... not very good? He's a career reserve grader and I'd be surprised if Newcastle don't go to market for a hooker or are playing Gamble there within a few weeks.

mattnz wrote:

McInnes is a low risk play with massive upside and a great POD over others at the top of the rankings. Getting a genuine gun, who has dropped $160k and has never failed to deliver when his team has needed him to step up. Its what made him such a great fantasy player at Dragons. At worst you are getting a good scoring lock for 3 weeks and likely continues with a 60 minute role after that, like he had last season when Rudolf was out. 2nd year back from ACL is also ideal, as players typically have lower output in their first year back from ACL.

If you miss McInnes and others pick him up, it will be a significant disadvantage. Only $115k more than Smith for likely much better scoring that you will actually want in your playing 17, should be getting 50s and 60+s the next few weeks, not hoping to miss what have been Smith's best scoring in 30s and 40s this season, with a breakout game, that he hasn't shown yet this season.

It's not without risk though, sharks could always start Williams perhaps to give them a bigger body early against a big roosters pack but he is also capable of big minutes off the bench there too
Then you have the new elephant in the room in Wade Graham who will also play in the middle with an unknown role, former captain too and can ball play (Could be a poor mans Yeo)
With two bench props in Kaufusi/Hazelton they should both get gametime too (No back utility like Trindall who got 0 gametime)

Wilton,Nikora,Brailey all play 80

So 240 middle minutes (2xprops and 1xlock) to share between Mcinnes,Williams,Graham,BHU,Hunt,Kaufusi,Hazelton
Not going to try and guess but there is always risk and Mcinnes has a BE of 58 so essentially you get it right you get the points, wrong and you lose more cash

He still looks a good option but I am simply saying there is always risk and you could wait a week too[/quote]

rhinoceroo wrote:

The Crossland tacklebot hooker game he played 72 minutes with no Mann on the bench. His coach has said they'll split the role. He might make a bit of money but I'd be playing Smith iny 17 over him ten times out of ten.

Also, Crossland is... not very good? He's a career reserve grader and I'd be surprised if Newcastle don't go to market for a hooker or are playing Gamble there within a few weeks.

Crossland played well at HOK when filling in. Importantly he has made 92 tackles, missing just 2 in that time. I will be very surprised if Mann and Crossland share 80 minutes. Expecting that with one of them getting time at lock, they get something like a 60/50 split, with 30 minutes that they are both on the field together. That would give Croker 50 minutes at lock, in line with his 47 last week.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
If you wait a week then there is really no point is there? You either get the full 3 weeks or just move onto someone else. 

Fotuaika is actually pretty tempting after having a look

I agree McInnes is probably this week or don't bother.

He has 3 weeks where he should score quite well. Then Finucane comes back and he might revert to normal (unless you're mattnz, in which case the good times will keep on coming).
Because of his high-ish breakeven this week, he might not even make tonnes of cash for those 3 weeks.
I think for the short term he's a great downgrade for someone like Hopgood. Free up some cash and get more points.

What is the attraction in Fotuaika? Byes aren't amazing and doesn't seem like he's going to score super well for his price. He's a mid 40s guy priced at mid 40s?
Doesn't really score well enough to just pay for his scores without some upside

Any interest in Latrell over Teddy?
Seems to have bottomed out and the bunnies are coming into form, i feel hes maybe a better buy than teddy this week at least

rhinoceroo wrote:

The Crossland tacklebot hooker game he played 72 minutes with no Mann on the bench. His coach has said they'll split the role. He might make a bit of money but I'd be playing Smith iny 17 over him ten times out of ten.

Also, Crossland is... not very good? He's a career reserve grader and I'd be surprised if Newcastle don't go to market for a hooker or are playing Gamble there within a few weeks.

Not sure I understand the hate for Smith. The gamble pre round 1 didn't pay off for a lot of people but he's dropped $118k since then.
I'm far more likely to take that punt now due to the reduced cost. The only things that have changed since Pre Season are that he (and the Roosters as a whole), have had a slow start and poor form. He also looks to be over the rib injury.
Turpin no longer on the bench is the point that really got me interested though.

If he can net me 40 points in 60ish minutes, I'm laughing.

rhinoceroo wrote:

The Crossland tacklebot hooker game he played 72 minutes with no Mann on the bench. His coach has said they'll split the role. He might make a bit of money but I'd be playing Smith iny 17 over him ten times out of ten.

Also, Crossland is... not very good? He's a career reserve grader and I'd be surprised if Newcastle don't go to market for a hooker or are playing Gamble there within a few weeks.

Is that tacklebot role really that hard to replicate though? Tackle lots and pass the ball, from the outside looking in I would imagine that’s fairly simple, and if he’s shown he can do it once why can’t he do it again? Mann might be needed elsewhere during the game (Lock, Half, Centre)

All the cheapies have risk and 9 times out of ten you are probably bang on the money.

mattnz wrote:

Crossland played well at HOK when filling in. Importantly he has made 92 tackles, missing just 2 in that time. I will be very surprised if Mann and Crossland share 80 minutes. Expecting that with one of them getting time at lock, they get something like a 60/50 split, with 30 minutes that they are both on the field together. That would give Croker 50 minutes at lock, in line with his 47 last week.

Well, we'll see, hope it works out for you, but casual readers should be aware that your "expectations" very often do not match reality, and they do have three other forwards on the bench to cover the prop/lock rotations.

anyone else interested in lussick ? egans 2nd stint from head knocks may be longer than a week out and is almost certain to have more later in the year might be a decent cash down option with some money made slowly over the course of the season

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In the Titans Dragons game who went to edge when BMM came off?

mintotheimmortal wrote:In the Titans Dragons game who went to edge when BMM came off?

Bird

Monty_Burns wrote:Any interest in Latrell over Teddy?
Seems to have bottomed out and the bunnies are coming into form, i feel hes maybe a better buy than teddy this week at least

Teddy you can possibly hold over Origin as byes fall on 13 and 19 (only misses extra R16 if no rests)

Latrell misses 13, 16, 19, 20 over the Origin period (+ 26) so would be a sell come R16

mattnz wrote:Surely the Rabbits with a pool as their image is a meme joke, not the original Rabbits.

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mattnz wrote:

fyi, I was ranked 1700 in round 2, despite getting Ponga's 0 and Talau's 2 that round they were both injured, would have been top 200 with decent scores from them, then got hit with so many other injuries to gun players I couldn't trade them out fast enough or double cow as initially planned. Fantasy is a game of rich get richer, playing catch up when your gun players get injured means you are going to lose ranks, no need to be a dick about it. I finally have had a chance to recover a bit, so should finally start gaining ranks again.

Fair enough, well what are your plans to try and generate cash?
I can understand your decisions compared to others may be more risky now for context given after 6 rounds there is almost 1mil difference.
You can't change what has happened but we are only 1/5th of the way in

Am I correct in your strategy is to trade sideways for a POD the week after a big score? (Fifita/Mahoney/Kiraz/Cobbo/Hynes/Katoa)
All those players after that score have settled back to their starting price so basically while being good you did technically spend top dollar
Would you do things differently in hindsight, genuinely curious?

I had a look at your team and tracker then had a quick look at another team for comparison
The main difference between both of these teams I see is who and when you traded them in

I spent a few minutes looking over this while enjoying a coffee to perhaps understand why you are 'all in' on some players
I think it's because you can't afford them not to be, but perhaps I am wrong
You will probably take all of this the wrong way but I hope you find it helpful at least as it's early days and plenty of time to catch up
All the best

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Rabbit wrote:

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That’s actually my pool

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That Rabbit had way more than 29 posts, nice try