NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 45 - Fanatical Times

wolfking wrote:

lol, who is this?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-18/father-of-nrl-star-refused-bail-alleged-assault/101868578

my tv broke wrote:Dragons welcome a culture of fuckheadery and then wonder why their team is shit and can't recruit any good players.

Not punting JDB immediately is one of the more bizarre decisions a club has made. Good clubs don't keep problems around.

Same with Hasler and that manly kid who got done for stabbing someone.

Spot on....

Dragons have been all over the place since keeping JDB around during that whole saga (I know, 'not found guilty' etc etc but still pretty shitty behaviour at the very least).

Manly are in a similar boat with the decision on Fainu compounded by the Jersey debacle last year.

In both of these scenarios you force players/officials who may be uncomfortable with the situation to be outwardly supportive of the protagonist.

In any other workplace you get the arse regardless of innocence/guilt....the 'don't appear in the paper' policy

my tv broke wrote:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-18/father-of-nrl-star-refused-bail-alleged-assault/101868578

Not even a good player.

Meanwhile look at Dolphins and how they're going. Squad full of average/underated players but no off-field issues anywhere. Easy to build team unity/culture with a group like that.

Greatest coach ever also helps but Bennett also isn't a tactical genius, just keeps it simple and truly cares for the players.

Aardvark wrote:

Spot on....

Dragons have been all over the place since keeping JDB around during that whole saga (I know, 'not found guilty' etc etc but still pretty shitty behaviour at the very least).

Manly are in a similar boat with the decision on Fainu compounded by the Jersey debacle last year.

In both of these scenarios you force players/officials who may be uncomfortable with the situation to be outwardly supportive of the protagonist.

In any other workplace you get the arse regardless of innocence/guilt....the 'don't appear in the paper' policy

Pretty much. I work for the local Council and it's like you speak out of term, speak to the media without approval or do anything to bring the Council name into disrepute, action is taken. You're breaking the code of conduct and that could easily lead to dismissal. It's like the NRL don't follow any of these common workplace protocols, it's strange. Things may be completely different on the inside but the to the outside the view needs to be held to a standard. The NRL standard just seems to drop each year.

my tv broke wrote:Meanwhile look at Dolphins and how they're going. Squad full of average/underated players but no off-field issues anywhere. Easy to build team unity/culture with a group like that.

Greatest coach ever also helps but Bennett also isn't a tactical genius, just keeps it simple and truly cares for the players.

Not to mention good leadership, which says differently about the Dragons with the decisions and actions they undertake. The old saying is 'the fish rots from the head' and it shows time and time again.

my tv broke wrote:Meanwhile look at Dolphins and how they're going. Squad full of average/underated players but no off-field issues anywhere. Easy to build team unity/culture with a group like that.

Greatest coach ever also helps but Bennett also isn't a tactical genius, just keeps it simple and truly cares for the players.

Good leadership is not micro managing and doing everything possible yourself to try and look good. It's knowing the strengths and weaknesses of your team and empowering them and believing in the roles you give them. Bennett is the best at making them feel worthy and getting the trust from the players. Trust and respect is the biggest thing. It's earned between employees and bosses and from there you get good relationships and good productivity. From there the players/employees thrive and excel.

Aardvark wrote:

Spot on....

Dragons have been all over the place since keeping JDB around during that whole saga (I know, 'not found guilty' etc etc but still pretty shitty behaviour at the very least).

Manly are in a similar boat with the decision on Fainu compounded by the Jersey debacle last year.

In both of these scenarios you force players/officials who may be uncomfortable with the situation to be outwardly supportive of the protagonist.

In any other workplace you get the arse regardless of innocence/guilt....the 'don't appear in the paper' policy

Yeah, it's tough being a Dragons supporter and watching the shit show at coach every season. I always loved Brownie as coach, even though he should've won more with that squad. Bennett is obviously Bennett, but every coach since has been such a disappointing, disgusting signing. We need a full clean out all the way up. And as much as I love Hornby as a player I am praying we don't sign him, we need a real grown-up coach

Do we have seeds for worst trade of the year?

Cleary + Boyd to Turbo + hands

What a shit show. Got Cleary back, at a higher price. The upside was it allowed me to bring in carrigan a week later.

Also, first 1000 of the season is nice to see. From 52k up to 2.5k

Had a good week overall, but going Preston to Luki is looking like one of those rare trades that I got wrong on every possible count:

1) Trading Preston at all
2) Getting Luki
3) Not getting Horse instead

Takes some effort to fuck up on that many different levels

wolfking wrote:

I could never get my head around them not sacking JDB yet sacking Vaughn immediately for the BBQ thing.

To be fair that day did show his evasive skills were lacking

my tv broke wrote:Dragons welcome a culture of fuckheadery and then wonder why their team is shit and can't recruit any good players.

Not punting JDB immediately is one of the more bizarre decisions a club has made. Good clubs don't keep problems around.

Same with Hasler and that manly kid who got done for stabbing someone.

Thats NRL policy, innocent until proven guilty, but no fault compulsory stand down.

Milchcow wrote:

I think my only trade this week (if any) is dealing with Cook. (mostly because Alamoti to Te Whare has to wait a week)

What are your plans? For me it is probably Robson or nothing

Holding. Robson (or whoever) is no guarantee to score better, and Cook still has ceiling of banner.

mattnz wrote:

Thats NRL policy, innocent until proven guilty, but no fault compulsory stand down.

Dragons deciding whether or not to punt JDB from their club has nothing to do with NRL.

The Dragons chose to keep him. They should not have.

Mulvy wrote:

Holding.  Robson (or whoever) is no guarantee to score better,  and Cook still has ceiling of banner.  

The cash losses and high BE don't bother you?

They bother me, but I'll hold him anyway until 13.

Loomer wrote:ONE NZ(Vodafone) CEO in news for tweeting refs and bunker cheats. NRL not happy with his comments. Screw them. Been absolute piss take last 2 matches. Sitili last week no arms flying tackle called turnover then goes and scores. DWZ gets hand in face vs Penrith. Not even a pen then has to go off for HIA

He's just saying what we're all thinking but the coach can't say. He's clarified today after the NRL commented on it, saying along the lines of bad calls happen, but for some reason they happen more to the Warriors. I like that he mentioned the 3 games in 11 days too, that's been rough on its own.

mattnz wrote:

Thats NRL policy, innocent until proven guilty, but no fault compulsory stand down.

Clubs are under no obligation to renew or extend their contracts though (which I believe happened in both of those cases) and they could have grounds to terminate based on the situation.

Fortitude wrote:Do we have seeds for worst trade of the year?

Cleary + Boyd to Turbo + hands

What a shit show. Got Cleary back, at a higher price. The upside was it allowed me to bring in carrigan a week later.

Depending on when you did this (I assume early rounds) then even the Carrigan trade would have seemed dicey

Aardvark wrote:

Clubs are under no obligation to renew or extend their contracts though (which I believe happened in both of those cases) and they could have grounds to terminate based on the situation.

The Broncos terminated Gagai's contract for turning up late to training. (among other minor things like weight targets in gym, but that was the final straw).

The dragons could have easily leant on 'breaching' club code of conduct/etc.