NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 46 - A dour affair

Milchcow wrote:
A hypothetical question based on the "getting outjumped is an error" discussion

If someone makes a clean line break on the last tackle, and has unmarked support with them as they approach the fullback, but they don't pass and get tackled - would you mark that as an error for fantasy scoring?

Its certainly an error from the coaches point of view, but I don't think should be considered as such from a stats perspective.

An error is scored as having possession and losing it. The only relevant examples I can think of are:

Passing to an opponent (even if they pick it up off the ground)
Knocking the ball on
Kicking the ball out on the full
Incorrect restart, including not kicking 10 meters
Forward pass
Incorrect play of the ball
Incorrectly feeding a scrum or doing it in a way that the opposing side gets possession
Touching the side line while in possession of the ball

Perhaps I didn't word my question properly, but I am not interested in what the rules say, I was asking for people's thoughts on what they would think constitutes an error.

Kick off isn't for 3 hours, and we already know Teddy is out, so have to talk about something

Darius was definitely a good VC choice.

mattnz wrote:

An error is scored as having possession and losing it. The only relevant examples I can think of are:

Passing to an opponent (even if they pick it up off the ground)
Knocking the ball on
Kicking the ball out on the full
Incorrect restart, including not kicking 10 meters
Forward pass
Incorrect play of the ball
Incorrectly feeding a scrum or doing it in a way that the opposing side gets possession
Touching the side line while in possession of the ball

Overdue for some outside time

Milchcow wrote:
Perhaps I didn't word my question properly, but I am not interested in what the rules say, I was asking for people's thoughts on what they would think constitutes an error.

Kick off isn't for 3 hours, and we already know Teddy is out, so have to talk about something

If I were a coach, yes, big error. Fantasy, probably not.

RandomSil wrote:With Teddy out... Do I trade him to Manu or is that just luxury trading the other option is Drinkwater who will play next week as well.

Edit: Adding to this I have Armstrong in the bench so I will get points. Probably more wise to just keep the trade and weigh it up next week.

Drinkwater misses R16 and 19?

Milchcow wrote:
Perhaps I didn't word my question properly, but I am not interested in what the rules say, I was asking for people's thoughts on what they would think constitutes an error.

Kick off isn't for 3 hours, and we already know Teddy is out, so have to talk about something

As a general rule people are much better at observing concrete losses vs lost opportunities. It's probably the greatest struggle in public policy - the classical dividing line between economists and politicians.

I absolutely agree with you, but in the same way we can't sell a decent tax system, we can't sell failure to pass to an open man.

Milchcow wrote:
Perhaps I didn't word my question properly, but I am not interested in what the rules say, I was asking for people's thoughts on what they would think constitutes an error.

Kick off isn't for 3 hours, and we already know Teddy is out, so have to talk about something

I would count it as an error. Him failing to catch it cost them the game in the end

If he catches it that scenario he gets a kick defuse.

If he fails to catch it in that scenario no issues?

Should be a for and against much like a tackle and a missed tackle

Well, the bad luck just gets worse this year

VC Walker, let's go! Will be lucky to hit 530

Those with teddy in their team as captain and now stuck with 12, are you:

TU: trading manu in
TD: sucking it up and playing 12

I have cheese, teddy, and 3 raiders. 2 raiders are going next week anyhow, so with manu will have 4 outs next week with the bye. With Ted now going origin 1&2, manu is a safe punt as he’s proven and a final team player regardless.

If any other red dots come for next week, can trade anyhow as the only possibilities (yes I know playing with fire here) are cotter not backing up and Armstrong getting a rest. Cotter backed up every game last year and is a keeper for me, so no fussed there. Armstrong has had a fair bit of outside noise this week but it was his first poor game. If he goes, he also misses rd16 and has made 250k so can leave early.

Ranked at 16k and with 12 trades, I want to be aggressive and try to climb as much as I can rather than plod to a 10k+ finish. Would rather fall on the sword after trying than plodding. None of us play the game to finish down in the slums hey!

Milchcow wrote:
A hypothetical question based on the "getting outjumped is an error" discussion

If someone makes a clean line break on the last tackle, and has unmarked support with them as they approach the fullback, but they don't pass and get tackled - would you mark that as an error for fantasy scoring?

Its certainly an error from the coaches point of view, but I don't think should be considered as such from a stats perspective.

If it was a player from the Rabbitohs definitely mark it as an error in fantasy.
Roosters probably deserve it to be marked as an error, but will get away with it not being an error, however the player will be subbed off and benched the next game by Robbo

Milchcow wrote:
Kick off isn't for 3 hours, and we already know Teddy is out, so have to talk about something

Been saving this one… NRL Coaches as Players power rankings. Not sure there’s any correlation between playing ability and coaching ability

1 Benji

2 Stuart
3 Fitz
4 Walters
5 Hasler

6 Barrett

7 Bennett (it was the 1970s but he did play for Aus!)

8 Hornby
9 Cleary
10 Payten

11 Bellamy
12 Flanno
13 Ciraldo

14 Siebold
15 Demetriou (sacked)
16 Robbo

17 Webster
18 Arthur (sacked)
19 O’Brien

Chewie wrote:

If it was a player from the Rabbitohs definitely mark it as an error in fantasy.

As in, any fantasy coach with a Rabbitohs player in their 21 should be marked with an error?

Anyone heard any news on Koula?

robelgordo wrote:

Milchcow wrote:
Kick off isn't for 3 hours, and we already know Teddy is out, so have to talk about something

Been saving this one… NRL Coaches as Players power rankings. Not sure there’s any correlation between playing ability and coaching ability

1 Benji

2 Stuart
3 Fitz
4 Walters
5 Hasler

6 Barrett

7 Bennett (it was the 1970s but he did play for Aus!)

8 Hornby
9 Cleary
10 Payten

11 Bellamy
12 Flanno
13 Ciraldo

For a second I thought you were naming a starting 13 here, and was about to have some very strong words with you about your positional choices

Milchcow wrote:

As in, any fantasy coach with a Rabbitohs player in their 21 should be marked with an error?

Yeah you should get demerits for picking players from the team that is at the bottom of the ladder

robelgordo wrote:


Been saving this one… NRL Coaches as Players power rankings. Not sure there’s any correlation between playing ability and coaching ability

1 Benji

2 Stuart
3 Fitz
4 Walters
5 Hasler

6 Barrett

7 Bennett (it was the 1970s but he did play for Aus!)

8 Hornby
9 Cleary
10 Payten

11 Bellamy
12 Flanno
13 Ciraldo

14 Siebold
15 Demetriou (sacked)
16 Robbo

17 Webster
18 Arthur (sacked)
19 O’Brien

Benji was a decent player, wouldn't rate him over Ricky though. Would be more in the 6-8th rank range for me.

Welsh Mafia wrote:Those with teddy in their team as captain and now stuck with 12, are you:

TU: trading manu in
TD: sucking it up and playing 12

I have cheese, teddy, and 3 raiders. 2 raiders are going next week anyhow, so with manu will have 4 outs next week with the bye. With Ted now going origin 1&2, manu is a safe punt as he’s proven and a final team player regardless.

If any other red dots come for next week, can trade anyhow as the only possibilities (yes I know playing with fire here) are cotter not backing up and Armstrong getting a rest. Cotter backed up every game last year and is a keeper for me, so no fussed there. Armstrong has had a fair bit of outside noise this week but it was his first poor game. If he goes, he also misses rd16 and has made 250k so can leave early.

Ranked at 16k and with 12 trades, I want to be aggressive and try to climb as much as I can rather than plod to a 10k+ finish. Would rather fall on the sword after trying than plodding. None of us play the game to finish down in the slums hey!

Who are you trading out to bring in Manu? I don't see Armstrong being rested.

Just saw Baz reckons Sharpe will debut next week for the knights