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    NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 47 - Origin time

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    Post by Finch Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:07 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:I wonder if jumping off Armstrong early could be the equivalent move to Booze's Miller master stroke last year. Even if he plays this week, it's against Storm and the drumbeats are negative that his place is under threat. Can afford to go to Koloa, who now that he's DPP suits my bye rounds so much better.

    Will have a slightly weird team, but need calculated risks to improve my horrible rank:

    Grant
    Carrigan Ming Koloa
    Difita KPP
    Galvin Atkinson
    Iro Kiraz
    Drinky Latrell Koula
    Brailey Blore Hands Fainu
    (SWalker Radley Weekes Aitken)

    Do it matter who his opponent is?

    Countless times people have said "Player x is going to go large tonight because the opposition is shit!" - Then they score their average

    He's averaging 46, his BE is 2, defo worth holding this week imo
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    Post by Tigs Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:14 pm

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Didn’t realise Klemmer was also suspended till 17 along with Bateman/Ipap being out until the 20 somethings.

    Someone has to be worth it

    Twal and Samuela the only two I'd consider from WT
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:15 pm

    Finch wrote:

    Do it matter who his opponent is?

    Countless times people have said "Player x is going to go large tonight because the opposition is shit!" - Then they score their average

    He's averaging 46, his BE is 2, defo worth holding this week imo

    Over a broad range, fullbacks do score less tries and fantasy points against teams like the Storm and the Panthers, yes. And if your scoring is reliant on tries, then the likelihood of a low scoring increases.

    Without diving deep into it, I'd imagine the link between backs scoring badly against good teams is a lot more secure than that of backs going huge against bad teams.
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    Post by Ando Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:16 pm

    Tigs wrote:

    Twal and Samuela the only two I'd consider from WT

    When Tigs speaks, we listen. Hope you can get an inside scoop on Armstrong before the Knights game mate. Will be 5am here when the Knights kick off
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:23 pm

    Koloamatangi averages 48 in big sample and is priced 47. He’s going to relinquish lock spot as soon as Murray is back 

    Is the MID DPP that valuable
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    Post by Finch Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:26 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Over a broad range, fullbacks do score less tries and fantasy points against teams like the Storm and the Panthers, yes. And if your scoring is reliant on tries, then the likelihood of a low scoring increases.

    Without diving deep into it, I'd imagine the link between backs scoring badly against good teams is a lot more secure than that of backs going huge against bad teams.

    Going off Footy stats here...

    Storm Opponents, and then the oppositon fullback scores...

    Round 1: Panthers - Edwards 41
    Round 2: Warriors - Tuaupiki 35
    Round 3: Knights - Ponga 52
    Round 5: Broncos - Sailor 27
    Round 6: Bulldogs - Tracey 25
    Round 7: Roosters - Tedesco 29
    Round 8: Rabbits - Gray 33
    Round 9: Titans - AJ 59 (The first Fullback to score a try against Storm supposedly)
    Round 10: Sharks - Kennedy - 18
    Round 11: Eels - Talagi - 39 (Also scored a try)
    Round 12: Manly - Hopoate 32

    Opposition average of Fullbacks is 35.5

    Let's be honest, some of those fullback choices aren't the first choice either, but some are.

    Of course there's lots more variables like weather, and if the Storm beat you by 30+ points, or a last minute try to Xavier Coates in the corner Sad

    I don't know if I'm proving your point or mine, but regardless 35 points average doesn't seem too bad.
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    Post by WT Winfield Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:32 pm

    Tigs wrote:

    Twal and Samuela the only two I'd consider from WT

    Yeah I think I'll grab both this week now that Hynes is out. Having 3 Tigers is somewhat concerning, but those byes and injuries.. seems too good to pass up. Fifita and Wighton to complete the max trade. Starts to look okay for Rd 16 and 19.
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    Post by ForanAgainst Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:36 pm

    I’m content playing 16 because it means I no longer have to look at Cheese, Shoes, Mikaele, or Kris in my side. By bringing in Wighton and DFifi I left myself one short for 17, but that should be an easy fix….hopefully.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:36 pm

    Gotta a cut one of Sam Walker & Strange. Both miss rd 19, thinking holding Strange purely due to the dpp.
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    Post by WT Winfield Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:37 pm

    Probably find out about Armstrong at the 24 hour cut on Saturday, same time as final teams for Titans vs Souths, so only the first game is locked, so grab your fluffy Tigs early and cuddle up
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    Post by L-Jimmy Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:39 pm

    Khany wrote:Gotta a cut one of Sam Walker & Strange. Both miss rd 19, thinking holding Strange purely due to the dpp.


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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:40 pm

    Finch wrote:

    Going off Footy stats here...

    Storm Opponents, and then the oppositon fullback scores...

    Round 1: Panthers - Edwards 41
    Round 2: Warriors - Tuaupiki 35
    Round 3: Knights - Ponga 52
    Round 5: Broncos - Sailor 27
    Round 6: Bulldogs - Tracey 25
    Round 7: Roosters - Tedesco 29
    Round 8: Rabbits - Gray 33
    Round 9: Titans - AJ 59 (The first Fullback to score a try against Storm supposedly)
    Round 10: Sharks - Kennedy - 18
    Round 11: Eels - Talagi - 39 (Also scored a try)
    Round 12: Manly - Hopoate 32

    Opposition average of Fullbacks is 35.5

    Let's be honest, some of those fullback choices aren't the first choice either, but some are.

    Of course there's lots more variables like weather, and if the Storm beat you by 30+ points, or a last minute try to Xavier Coates in the corner  Sad

    I don't know if I'm proving your point or mine, but regardless 35 points average doesn't seem too bad.

    Given every fullback with a reasonable sample size other than Brimson scored below their average/expectations, I'm going to go with helping (if not proving) my point 😉
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    Post by Welsh Mafia Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:50 pm

    Camo123 wrote:Koloamatangi averages 48 in big sample and is priced 47. He’s going to relinquish lock spot as soon as Murray is back 

    Is the MID DPP that valuable

    It’s also the bye coverage that is valuable
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    Post by BCT05 Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:57 pm

    Upon reflection maybe I will just flick Koula now. Think he's an easy hold for a lot of teams but the only clear trade I have this week is Kris. He will become Fifita.

    I think I've settled on getting Hands too and Koula at CTR looks potentially the next best trade out. Him or Tracey. One of them is currently surplus for r16 anyway if Edwards is back for game 2 and I'd still like to get Latrell next week.
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    Post by Revraiser Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:11 pm

    Lomax not backing up? The Man can do anything if actually tested
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    Post by Tigs Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:14 pm

    WT Winfield wrote:

    Yeah I think I'll grab both this week now that Hynes is out. Having 3 Tigers is somewhat concerning, but those byes and injuries.. seems too good to pass up. Fifita and Wighton to complete the max trade. Starts to look okay for Rd 16 and 19.

    I might grab both too, shoes and Smithies the likely outs.
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:19 pm

    Revraiser wrote:Lomax not backing up? The Man can do anything if actually tested

    I think all the Dragons from Origin will play if fit. No restings.

    Just going to have to check the 24hr cut for each game
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:20 pm

    Tigs wrote:

    Twal and Samuela the only two I'd consider from WT
    Yeah think I’ve got to go with both to make life a little easier over the byes
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:24 pm

    Will go Drinky to Trell rd 16, if he isn't required for origin duties
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:49 pm

    Is there anything more concrete behind all these Armstrong rumours besides what Toohey said? Pretty sure this isn't the first time Sharpe has been in the 21.

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