NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 47 - Origin time

rhinoceroo wrote:

ShadowSabre wrote:It doesnt happen as often as it does in Union, but surely League needs to consider the 20min red card rule union have implemented?
Red cards just totally ruin the spectacle and whilst it shouldnt be the whole consideration, they need to realise as a commerical product it is totally ruined when a red card occurs as it imbalances the game too much.
Red card to the guy who does the act is punishment enough, and 20mins later another guy comes into the game so the game isnt toally ruined - win win

I have no idea how it works in Union, but that sounds like it would be open season on teams best players early in the game. If you get some spud to take out a Cleary (or maybe a Walsh) then you're in a situation where the fouling team benefits more than the fouled one over the course of the game.

If people were deliberately taking out opponents, then on top of whatever happens in the game, they are going to get lengthy suspensions afterwards. So even if you did want to KO Cleary from a game, you'd have to find a player you're willing to go without for a couple of months afterwards - and if they are dispensable enough for that, then it could well be a career limiting move. Only someone like Terry Lamb could take out an opponents best player and get away with it

wolfking wrote:How bad of a look is it going to be for NSW if Hynes gets dropped?  Maybe it should be Moses at 7 and Hynes at 6?  Was Hynes any worse than Luai?  Plus, would be hard for Madge to use anyone as a scapegoat playing with 12 last night you would think.

I think they pick Moses for game 2, like they arguable should have done for game 1. Its not exactly the same as being dropped for form if the "incumbent" just gets his spot back after injury although of course everyone will spin it that way

Leaning toward holding Hynes and cutting Strange, assuming NSW gonna overreact and blame Hynes. He should’ve never allowed that late, high borderline shoulder charge - as the guy steering the team around it shows why he’s not a big game player

Milchcow wrote:

If people were deliberately taking out opponents, then on top of whatever happens in the game, they are going to get lengthy suspensions afterwards. So even if you did want to KO Cleary from a game, you'd have to find a player you're willing to go without for a couple of months afterwards - and if they are dispensable enough for that, then it could well be a career limiting move. Only someone like Terry Lamb could take out an opponents best player and get away with it

JWH is retiring, I fully expect him to do something grubby in his last game and be like “you can’t suspend cos you didn’t the other 38 prior times because the judiciary system is broken. But also you can’t fine Uncle Nick either this time cos I quit.”

Tedesco & Luai are a couple of control freaks. Doubt Nicho would have been doing much steering around anyway.

Milchcow wrote:

I think they pick Moses for game 2, like they arguable should have done for game 1. Its not exactly the same as being dropped for form if the "incumbent" just gets his spot back after injury although of course everyone will spin it that way

I think Moses will/should play too, it's just a question of whether he comes in for Luai or Hynes. Did we ever know who the "incumbent" was out of those two though?

Khany wrote:Tedesco & Luai are a couple of control freaks. Doubt Nicho would have been doing much steering around anyway.

Oh yeah that Luai is notorious for controlling the Panthers

Meanwhile the 2% chance NSW actually pick the best centre available means I’m potentially pivoting toward the Uto v Twal debate

State of Origin Fantasy Game 1 results

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Hynes looked well out of depth last night. Poor kicks etc. Tough when you're down a man but he just looked lost last night. Seems as the pressure builds he crumbles a bit. Good player just not mentally there for the tip top?

NSW changes surely look something like.

Hynes > Moses
Jurbo > literally anyone else lol

Don't think they'll drop Jurbo but jeez, he's more out of depth than Hynes it seems. Again, seems like a great bloke but the pace of Origin is well above his abilities now. VC Yeo was also caught out again at Origin - just not a pivot at all at the next level.

Chewie wrote:State of Origin Fantasy Game 1 results

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Ah shit, forgot a captain!

robelgordo wrote:

Oh yeah that Luai is notorious for controlling the Panthers

Not talking about club football with chin

wolfking wrote:How bad of a look is it going to be for NSW if Hynes gets dropped?  Maybe it should be Moses at 7 and Hynes at 6?  Was Hynes any worse than Luai?  Plus, would be hard for Madge to use anyone as a scapegoat playing with 12 last night you would think.

TBH it won't be Madge doing the scapegoating there are plenty of other people putting their hands up to do that job.

The 'Hynes isn't a big game player' narrative was well and truly set before young Joe tried to take Walsh's head off.

From a fantasy perspective I don't have to worry about holding Hynes as I already swapped him for Moses last week.......always one step ahead the old Aardvark (I'm playing 2d chess this season).

They moved on from Jurbo 2-3 years ago because he was off the pace, and then somehow they reversed last year, then doubled down this year and made him captain this one. Just NSW things.

Aardvark wrote:

TBH it won't be Madge doing the scapegoating there are plenty of other people putting their hands up to do that job.

The 'Hynes isn't a big game player' narrative was well and truly set before young Joe tried to take Walsh's head off.

From a fantasy perspective I don't have to worry about holding Hynes as I already swapped him for Moses last week.......always one step ahead the old Aardvark (I'm playing 2d chess this season).

Hynes has become the new Pearce.

Get picked because you're the best available and there's nobody else, lose behind a team on the back foot most of the game, get blamed. Let's do this season after season after season yay.

If Moses was preferred why didn't they just pick him ? He was named to play for Parra two days after nsw squad was named. The Monday morning media said Moses was ready to go for round 13. But he wasn't ready to go when the Blues side was picked the day before-hand? Did parra give the blues some dodgy info "yeah nah he's not actually good to go yet".

Khany wrote:

Not talking about club football with chin

Talking about the boom box in the locker room?

Wondering if they play Burton over Latrell - Burton is kinda incumbent maybe? As is Latrell?

Suspect its just hopium and I should reverse the trade-in, but WFB stocks are dire

I really hope NSW don't pick Latrell.....and that's not anything to do with my fantasy team

Is Moses a big game player?