State of Origin Game 3

It's lucky NSW won on the back of a series of bad ref calls, otherwise there might have been 40000 vacant seats in the stadium next year instead of 20000.

Archer wrote:
Righto I'll let you know when I figure out what we aren't good at

Well, for a start, it's figuring out what you aren't good at.

To the Smith controversy I've got a couple basic and logical things to say.

Smith going up to talk twice was a bit over the top and I can understand, after the Blues had stood and applauded and listed to smith thank his teammates and thank NSW that the formalities were basically over and I really think the Qld are showing how much of an entitled bunch of twats they can be.

That said, it doesn't suprise me that Gallen would be thinking about himself and walk away, even if it was to thank the fans. It sums up his leadership or lack there of and certainly was disrespectful and hopefully we will see a change next year. Unless of course Daley takes the stupid decision of appointing Woods as Captain.

Ice wrote:To the Smith controversy I've got a couple basic and logical things to say.

Smith going up to talk twice was a bit over the top and I can understand, after the Blues had stood and applauded and listed to smith thank his teammates and thank NSW that the formalities were basically over and I really think the Qld are showing how much of an entitled bunch of twats they can be.

That said, it doesn't suprise me that Gallen would be thinking about himself and walk away, even if it was to thank the fans. It sums up his leadership or lack there of and certainly was disrespectful.

No doubt Smith suffers from a fair amount of tall poppy syndrome based on the praise he rightfully earns.
This always tends to lead to a flurry of negative comments whenever he does what every other captain does and talks to the ref.

But FFS he was even trying to give fat guts a wrap and the rude khunt was almost halfway up the tunnel.....so, so poor.

The thing is there have been a lot of grubby NSWelshman over the years that are easily hated on the field but that you can respect when they take off the Blues guernsey.........fat guts certainly won't be in that category.

It's almost fitting that instead of a last minute victory being his final memory, a rude show of disrespect will be.

how good are nsw fans getting more to a dead rubber then QLD ever get to a game!!!


being serious, was obviously a game where we got the better of the calls, we almost blew it but what happened in the first 78 minutes can be quickly forgotten by the last 2 lol


few question for NSW moving forward

If hayne returns, where does he play ? teddy was strong imo and centre is a weak spot atm, i know ice will hate the idea of his lord and saviour not playing fullback but i think it'll suit us better

if moylan continues to not play in the halves at club level, can he really be considered an option there at origin ? i don't think so, he looked ok with the ball but defending front line without any further experience there is a tough ask

who the hell replaces farah ? i like peats but he hardly demands selection, along with centre and halves, this is a real weak spot

i'm not sure jack bird is a good enough centre/pivot/lock to be in the 13 but i think he makes a really good utility, which leads to the last question, will there be room for carty next year ? i think we have 4 guys in graham, jackson, frizz and cordner that all performed well this year, cover the left, middle & right, i think we go into next year with 3 of them starting, one on the bench if all healthy and with bird utility, i think carty may still be on the outside looking in

Qld now know what it feels like to have the refs call it your way. Too bad it wasn't when the series was on the line, you can't tell me those penalties weren't there though. They perhaps could have let a few go but they also could have given more in the second half.

As for the game, I thought both teams were actually pretty poor.
Well done to NSW though for the last minute victory.

QLD were brave and probably can be excused based on the defence they had to complete but I would be extremely concerned if I was a NSWelshman, as it likely gives some of their non-performers and particularly their coach another life.

Didn't see the elbow that Honeysett was sooking about but it couldn't be much worse than Tamou consistently kneeing blokes as they got up in the tackle - I honestly can't imagine how the ref's didn't at least pull him aside for that.

Thought both sin bins were soft and probably penalties at worst.

The thing about penalties is that it's all relative. I don't have too much of an issue with most of the penalties, but now way we were 4 times worse than NSW. This is backed up by the fact that in clubland, NSW players give away almost twice as many penalties per match than the QLD players.

As an example of inconsistency, Parker plays the ball and Moylan getting back kicks the ball away. It's ruled a knock on and if there is any argument that Parker shouldn't have put it there (I don't know where he should have put it as he played it properly), you only need to look 5 minutes later when Cooper is returning to the defensive line away from the ruck, Farah picks it up and intentionally knocks him and gets the penalty.

To be honest, I think most of the penalties were justified. I think there were plenty of calls we didn't get, such as the Jennings offside call, forward pass to Gallen in the first try, about 3 high tackles on Oates that were missed because he didn't stay down etc. Good on NSW players for taking advantage of it though. They weren't the ones blowing the whistle, so it's not their fault they got the calls.

Still amazes me that people think QLD have got the good end of the calls for years. It's not what I've been seeing, but perhaps we're all a bit biased and only remember the calls that go against our own team.

Re the charges, Inglis has to fight his using the Jorge Taufua defence of "I was bracing myself for impact". I don't know if it will work but Souths season is on life support as it is. They can't afford to be without him for 3 weeks because their season will be over when he gets back. If Souths were where Cronulla are on the table, you'd probably say "Freshen up for 3 weeks and take a week off, and we'll see you raring to go for the finals". The judiciary seems more likely to let people off on marginal calls than the MRC.

Parker will have to take the week because he won't win. The only defence I can see is that Gallen only got a warning letter pre the test match for the same thing, so that would suffice, but it's a bit like trying to beat a Grade 1 High Tackle charge. You pretty much have to show you didn't do it, or it was unavoidable, and showing there was minimal force or similar tackles went unpunished is never successful.

Fafita should just take a week for being a dumb c*nt. As above it's a bit hard to show it wasn't contrary conduct even if the effect was minimal in the end.

There is not getting the run of the green, and then there is the straight up, stone cold bullsh*t that the refs dished out last night.

Mr Fernando wrote:There is not getting the run of the green, and then there is the straight up, stone cold bullsh*t that the refs dished out last night.  

What really shits me is that in years to come, the sooks from down south will fob off what occurred last night because it apparently didn't mean as much (tell that to Snoz, who's job probably got saved by the result) and will focus their intense whining on calls in the previous games (that were actually correct).

you guys don't lose much but when ever you do, there is a conspiracy behind it



did corey parker really have a sook about gallen kicking the goal ?? he is as precious as they come with an incredibly short memory at times

A few things about last night.

• Congrats to QLD for winning the series. They had already won before the game so dont really need to speak much about the series result.
  
• Congrats to NSW for the last min win. In a vacuum, was great to see some of the young talent get one back in the dying moments.
  
  
• Tedesco - barring Hayne's return and injury he should be there for the next 5 or so series at least. Tedesco was great last night without being spectacular. In club land he scores both of those tries but thats what happens in origin, when you are playing against the best of the best. The old halfback chases you down and makes a try saver. He was great though, looked dangerous most times he touched the ball. I hate how sideways they play though, its so frustrating to watch. I liked when they started turning it back in, but they did it too much lol. The coaching really needs to improve.
  
  
• Mansour - before the series I stated that he would have one massive howler of a mistake in him (like how he does most games in club land). We saw it last night and it almost lost us the game. The bloke will be 27 by the time the next series comes around too. He looks strong when he runs the ball but I get worried every time its kicked to him because everyone knows he has that howler in him. That hospital pass he threw to Jackson too.. fuck me dead that was bad.
  
  
• Jennings - Good on him for scoring that try, it will be his last origin memory. We just need to move past him. I can actually see him getting a jersey in game 1 next year then getting dropped when NSW lose.
  
  
• Dugan - What a total shock, dugan goes off injured. He looked alright though last night but at what point does his injury proneness stop him from getting selected.
  
  
• Fergo - had a much better game last night, but still. He has that many mistakes in him its painful to watch. That hole he hit off moylan was pretty sweet tho and he took a few good kicks but he was too slow to shut down on that first try and he dropped the ball right at the start of the game coming out of his own end. Its embarrassing.
  
  
• Moylan - his attack was fine I thought. As fine as it could be for a bloke who plays fullback exclusively at club level. Played too sideways at times, had no kicking game. Before the game I said his defence would let the side down, and it did, big time.
  
  
• Maloney - played heaps better this time around and should be kept for next year. His defence is shonky but his dummy and go has been great for us. Other players just need to back him up more - the fullback and 6 should be waiting for him to dummy and go and going with him.
  
  
• Gallen - THANK FUCK Gallen is now gone. Good riddance. Finally he is gone and the team can move forward and play some footy. I loved that they kept taking him off last night, he would have been hating it.
  
  
• Farah - he was a solid 6.5 out of 10 all series. We have no clear replacement for him because of our shit selection policy and he is just not good enough to be playing 80 in an origin game any more. I have no idea who replaces him next year. Prob peats, but who knows. No one stands out.
  
  
• Woods - the best thing he did all night was miss the huddle. That was fucking priceless. The look on Jennings face when everyone was hugging Friz too was hilarious. "Hey guys I am the one that scored, hug me". Woods is good enough to play origin level, but you just cant expect him to ever have a BLINDER of a game. He gets through a lot of work. Makes a lot of tackles does a lot of hitups but you never see him fucking smash someone or run over someone. He deserves to be there though and geez I hope they dont make him captain.
  
  
• Friz - people have been calling for his selection for the last three years. He should have been picked three years ago. The guy is a class player and should be a fixture in the NSW and Aus team for the next decade. Easily NSW best player this series. To think that he was only there because of an injury to Cordner too... far out.
  
  
• Graham - was solid last night. Tried a bit too hard to force his attack when he threw the ball into row 10. Was on, but just didnt execute it well. He was great in defence tho. He should be there for the next few series at least.
  
  
• Jackson - similar to graham. Was solid. His defence is excellent, but his attack is non existent. Him running so close to the side line and just getting taken out late in the game fucking pissed me off. For a good player, that just shouldnt happen.
  
  
• Fifita - see ya mate. That brain snap prob cost him his Origin career. He should have been sent off for that. Totally uncalled for, totally not a football play what so eve.
  
• Klemmer - had a blinder. Should start next year. Hes great.
  
• Tamou - had a meh series. Take him or leave him.
  
• Bird - looked good when he came on, he is aggressive and dangerous with the ball. He deserves his spot there and is a good utility player. Didnt get much a of a chance with the ball because Inglis was marking him tho.
  

Blokes with ? next to their names for next series IMO
Mansour (I would replace with TTrbo)
Moylan (Went ok in attack but his defence at 6 is terrible. Cant see him playing next year unless there is an injury.)
Fergo (I would replace with Latrell Mitchell)
Dugan (Hayne has to come in somewhere, whether its 6, 3, 1)
Tamou (Dud series)
Fifita (Brilliant at times but a fucking liability)
Farah (wont be in the NRL)
Jennings

That's a fair summary for the most part Pieman. Except the bit about not talking about the series result. I think everyone needs to speak about that a bit more.

Fuck we've got some brilliant talent coming through.

I was talking about it last night, QLD haven't really been preparing for the future. They've got some quality there but they'll be blooding a lot of players at once. We know Parker is gone, Myles is close. Thaiday isn't far off, Scott will be off soon. JT is playing his last rep season next year. GI is starting his downward slide in terms of age. There's going to be a lot of rebuilding at QLD and NSW seem to have the jump on them in terms of rebuild, obviously forced through years of shit.

The game plan... how do they not know by to stop trying to go around the Defence. Its bizzare. Also, so much of the attack last night went at Inglis. Stop fucking running at greg inglis. Please. Just stop. Why do they keep doing it??!

We we introduced 8 new blokes this series, and it should have been more. Well Walker shouldnt have had a run, let alone 2 runs - but other guys should have been picked, like TTrbo, JTrbo, Latrell Mitchell etc.

The jennings try - yep offside and he interfered with Oneil. Should have been a penalty. Ive seen them let go in club land and seen them called back, so im fine with it being let go.
The friz try - i though it was forward, but you see them let go a lot too so im happy for it to be let go.

The walk off - typifies gallen to a tea. Selfish, self absorbed player. It was disrespectful. In saying that, the qld blokes were laughing and shit the whole time he was talking so it goes both ways a little.

As far as the reffing goes, QLD got fucked over. The penalties were justified, but it just didnt go both ways last night.

The cronk one was 100% a sin bin.
The fifita one should have been a send off with Cooper being binned as well. Fifita's brain snap was disgusting and is just not a footy play.
The inglis one - whether it was intentional or not, he hit the bloke with his shoulder in the jaw, with enough force to break the jaw. 100% illegal and he will get time for it. He tucked the shoulder and braced himself - which turned into a shoulder chage. If he was going to make a tackle he would have had his arm out and tackled him.

Honeysett wrote:Fuck we've got some brilliant talent coming through.

I was talking about it last night, QLD haven't really been preparing for the future. They've got some quality there but they'll be blooding a lot of players at once. We know Parker is gone, Myles is close. Thaiday isn't far off, Scott will be off soon. JT is playing his last rep season next year. GI is starting his downward slide in terms of age. There's going to be a lot of rebuilding at QLD and NSW seem to have the jump on them in terms of rebuild, obviously forced through years of shit.

I agree to a certain extent mate but we dont have talent coming through in the 7/6/9 jerseys, the most important ones.

I guess we can count Cleary, Brooks, Moses, Sezer, Austin, Pearce? as 7/6's coming into grade or developing.
Cleary is really showing some promise and is only 18. By the time he is 20, if he keeps it up, he should be ready to replace Maloney.

Dip wrote:Re the charges, Inglis has to fight his using the Jorge Taufua defence of "I was bracing myself for impact". I don't know if it will work but Souths season is on life support as it is. They can't afford to be without him for 3 weeks because their season will be over when he gets back. If Souths were where Cronulla are on the table, you'd probably say "Freshen up for 3 weeks and take a week off, and we'll see you raring to go for the finals". The judiciary seems more likely to let people off on marginal calls than the MRC.

Parker will have to take the week because he won't win. The only defence I can see is that Gallen only got a warning letter pre the test match for the same thing, so that would suffice, but it's a bit like trying to beat a Grade 1 High Tackle charge. You pretty much have to show you didn't do it, or it was unavoidable, and showing there was minimal force or similar tackles went unpunished is never successful.

Fafita should just take a week for being a dumb c*nt. As above it's a bit hard to show it wasn't contrary conduct even if the effect was minimal in the end.

All players have taken the early guilty plea. Fafita and Parker to miss a week, and Inglis 3.

Oh yeah, parkers elbow was disgusting.
There is just so much niggle from both sides its hard to watch. All coz no one can throw a punch any more.

I said it after game 1, I hate the way SOO is reffed. Its a totally different game to club footy purely because of the reffing.

Parker deserves a week but how does Gallen escape a suspension for an identical act on McGuire in a club match earlier this year?  The officiating and judiciary are just completely f***ed