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    2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 4

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    Post by Feline Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:20 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Anyone interested in joining the ultimate league draft? One spot left in league 3 draft likely starting on Friday 10am with 12 hours per pick?

    Sign me up. I am on an international flight on Friday evening but I can still fit the 12 hour selection time frame
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:22 pm

    Feline wrote:

    Sign me up. I am on an international flight on Friday evening but I can still fit the 12 hour selection time frame

    Hi Feline,

    The last spot in the League has been claimed by Filthridden however if there is a late withdrawal you will be the very first person to take their place. Keep an eye on your inbox over the coming days as I will PM you with the details if someone pulls out of the League.
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:44 pm

    I think if there aren't many cheapies named in round 1 then we'll have to take a few selection risks on mid-range players & a guy like S. Sue if he plays 70+ mins on the edge & also being a dpp will be the sort of guy we might have to pick. I know he promises a lot & sometimes doesn't meet our expectations. If there are no cheapies named in round 1 then to get 25 playing squad members in round 1 then mid-rangers like Sue will have to be chosen.
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    Post by Feline Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:49 pm

    White Lightning wrote:I think if there aren't many cheapies named in round 1 then we'll have to take a few selection risks on mid-range players & a guy like S. Sue if he plays 70+ mins on the edge & also being a dpp will be the sort of guy we might have to pick. I know he promises a lot & sometimes doesn't meet our expectations. If there are no cheapies named in round 1 then to get 25 playing squad members in round 1 then mid-rangers like Sue will have to be chosen.

    What do people think of Nathaniel Peteru (Titans) as a cash cow. Seems to have a sold bench spot, high PPM and about 10 points undervalued. Also seemed solid in the nines to fill this kind of gap. Middle rangers don't go anywhere. Seems like having a below middle ranger who is likely to rise the middle range value is better than a middle ranger who just sits there doing nothing
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    Post by Feline Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:51 pm

    Feline wrote:

    What do people think of Nathaniel Peteru (Titans) as a cash cow. Seems to have a sold bench spot, high PPM and about 10 points undervalued. Also seemed solid in the nines to fill this kind of gap. Middle rangers don't go anywhere. Seems like having a below middle ranger who is likely to rise the middle range value is better than a middle ranger who just sits there doing nothing

    Wait scratch that. Probably wont hold his spot after players return from injury.
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:05 pm

    Feline wrote:

    Middle rangers don't go anywhere. Seems like having a below middle ranger who is likely to rise the middle range value is better than a middle ranger who just sits there doing nothing

    I agree with the your comment. If we have to have 5-6 mid range picks it's better going for the lower priced option if he has more $ potential. Picking a mid ranger means price rises won't be as rapid meaning it'll take longer to collect enough cash to upgrade to a gun. This means it will be vital jumping on the right mid range option. I'm actually hoping bugger all cheapies are named so mid range options will have to be picked as it will make fantasy much more exciting/competitive & will bring the skill factor into play & this will result in a lot of different looking teams rather than what we've had the last couple of years where you could just stack your team full of the same guns/common players.
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    Post by Chewie Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:11 pm

    I'm thinking of adding Brady to my backs Trophy

    #TOUCHDOWN
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:15 pm

    Chewie wrote:I'm thinking of adding Brady to my backs Trophy

    #TOUCHDOWN

    What a phenominal come back by the Patriots. Down 28-3 in the 3rd quarter I gave them no chance.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:34 pm

    I just can't get behind the idea of Cameron King being a relevant fantasy scorer even with 80 minutes. Here is a list of his career games and scores
    2013: 11 games- 11 points 44 minutes, 23 points 25 minutes, 13 points 25 minutes, 19 points 22 minutes, 4 week injury, 14 points 51 minutes, 31 points 56 minutes, 23 points 48 minutes, 22 points 30 minutes, 26 points 34 minutes, 21 points 30 minutes, 32 points 41, season ending injury
    2014: 2 games- 24 minutes 11 points, 27 minutes 22 points, season ending injury
    2015: 2 games- 20 points 22 minutes, 0 points 17 minutes, season ending injury
    2016: 0 games, season ending injury in preseason
    I don't see how a guy with 2 career games scoring over 30 that can't stay healthy is going to suddenly average 40+ and be a genuine fantasy option
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:45 pm

    he will make money if he avg's 30+ though.

    its a problem position though if he's another scott moore. you're suddenly stuck with a dud 2nd hooker and moving mountains elsewhere to upgrade him.
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:51 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:I just can't get behind the idea of Cameron King being a relevant fantasy scorer even with 80 minutes. Here is a list of his career games and scores
    2013: 11 games- 11 points 44 minutes, 23 points 25 minutes, 13 points 25 minutes, 19 points 22 minutes, 4 week injury, 14 points 51 minutes, 31 points 56 minutes, 23 points 48 minutes, 22 points 30 minutes, 26 points 34 minutes, 21 points 30 minutes, 32 points 41, season ending injury
    2014: 2 games- 24 minutes 11 points, 27 minutes 22 points, season ending injury
    2015: 2 games- 20 points 22 minutes, 0 points 17 minutes, season ending injury
    2016: 0 games, season ending injury in preseason
    I don't see how a guy with 2 career games scoring over 30 that can't stay healthy is going to suddenly average 40+ and be a genuine fantasy option
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:55 pm

    my tv broke wrote:he will make money if he avg's 30+ though.

    its a problem position though if he's another scott moore. you're suddenly stuck with a dud 2nd hooker and moving mountains elsewhere to upgrade him.

    Problem is you eventually want 50+ from your hooker.

    So if Cam King is averaging low 30s you still need to find another $~200k from somewhere when you want to upgrade.
    That's assuming he stays as an 80 minute hooker and doesn't get injured or start sharing duties (or just get dropped altogether)

    And you don't want a player scoring low 30s in your playing 17 (especially not a high scoring position like hooker), so you have to be certain you get can get good value out of the money you save. 
    Theoretically easy to avoid but plenty of people will be tempted to have Kin in their 17 and have some more $143k filler in their NPRs which leaves them little room to move if King is a bust.
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:57 pm

    White Lightning wrote:I think if there aren't many cheapies named in round 1 then we'll have to take a few selection risks on mid-range players & a guy like S. Sue if he plays 70+ mins on the edge & also being a dpp will be the sort of guy we might have to pick. I know he promises a lot & sometimes doesn't meet our expectations. If there are no cheapies named in round 1 then to get 25 playing squad members in round 1 then mid-rangers like Sue will have to be chosen.

    You are correct. if not with Sue then you're going to have to take a risk somewhere in your starting team in order to fit in the other players you want.

    Its a delicate guessing game trying to pick which of these guys are actually going to kick on this year.
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    Post by Honey Badger Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:00 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:I just can't get behind the idea of Cameron King being a relevant fantasy scorer even with 80 minutes. Here is a list of his career games and scores
    2013: 11 games- 11 points 44 minutes, 23 points 25 minutes, 13 points 25 minutes, 19 points 22 minutes, 4 week injury, 14 points 51 minutes, 31 points 56 minutes, 23 points 48 minutes, 22 points 30 minutes, 26 points 34 minutes, 21 points 30 minutes, 32 points 41, season ending injury
    2014: 2 games- 24 minutes 11 points, 27 minutes 22 points, season ending injury
    2015: 2 games- 20 points 22 minutes, 0 points 17 minutes, season ending injury
    2016: 0 games, season ending injury in preseason
    I don't see how a guy with 2 career games scoring over 30 that can't stay healthy is going to suddenly average 40+ and be a genuine fantasy option

    Same here.
    The only way it would work for me is if morts is also named as 80 min hooker then i'll have him as one of my halves and king as my second hooker.
    If king does bomb out i can move morts to hooker and bring in a cheap half.
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    Post by Honey Badger Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:01 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:I just can't get behind the idea of Cameron King being a relevant fantasy scorer even with 80 minutes. Here is a list of his career games and scores
    2013: 11 games- 11 points 44 minutes, 23 points 25 minutes, 13 points 25 minutes, 19 points 22 minutes, 4 week injury, 14 points 51 minutes, 31 points 56 minutes, 23 points 48 minutes, 22 points 30 minutes, 26 points 34 minutes, 21 points 30 minutes, 32 points 41, season ending injury
    2014: 2 games- 24 minutes 11 points, 27 minutes 22 points, season ending injury
    2015: 2 games- 20 points 22 minutes, 0 points 17 minutes, season ending injury
    2016: 0 games, season ending injury in preseason
    I don't see how a guy with 2 career games scoring over 30 that can't stay healthy is going to suddenly average 40+ and be a genuine fantasy option

    Same here.
    The only way it would work for me is if morts is also named as 80 min hooker then i'll have him as one of my halves and king as my second hooker.
    If king does bomb out i can move morts to hooker and bring in a cheap half.
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:06 pm

    I don't know what happened to my reply lol. I have King & just having as an npr. I do think he could be another Moore but no I can beef up my 2fr with the extra $. He looks like a McCullough type hooker. But if he can tackle like Macca it's even better.
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:08 pm

    I'd be very surprised if King is an 80 minute hooker. De gois will be in the 17 to start the year, you would think.
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:10 pm

    Honey Badger wrote:

    Same here.
    The only way it would work for me is if morts is also named as 80 min hooker then i'll have him as one of my halves and king as my second hooker.
    If king does bomb out i can move morts to hooker and bring in a cheap half.

    That's what I'm doing too mate. You have a plan b if King is a bum.
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:15 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I'd be very surprised if King is an 80 minute hooker. De gois will be in the 17 to start the year, you would think.

    IDG is too old but I agree King probably won't play 80. That dude in the 9's Fogerty could be the bench utility in round 1 & spell King. There's also Pritchard as well.
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    Post by Pookus McFly Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:15 pm

    I felt disgusted with myself for finding a spot for Sironen in my team, so I decided to look at his stats for last year to convince myself out of him. It only made him seem more viable a choice! Somebody find me some older stats and tell me how wrong I am! The Sironen trap... it's so bright and wonderful... I can't unsee! Somebody help me!

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