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@SI - You predicted SKD could go on a run last year right before he did so. Any chance you can let me know when it's going to happen this year so I can play him in ultimate? 
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Bren wrote:I selected PODENE for my very first time in Ultimate League. Typical.
Can you please share your final team with us before game 1?
I'll be trying to steer clear of the KFP curse
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Chewie wrote:
Can you please share your final team with us before game 1?
I'll be trying to steer clear of the KFP curse
My tactic is to select players from others Ultimate League teams for my NRL Fantasy team. Smart move don't you think
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Bren wrote:Chewie wrote:
Can you please share your final team with us before game 1?
I'll be trying to steer clear of the KFP curse
My tactic is to select players from others Ultimate League teams for my NRL Fantasy team. Smart move don't you think
Sounds like a smart move considering they probably drafted better than you.
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Sounds like a smart move considering they probably drafted better than you.
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Bren wrote:@SI - You predicted SKD could go on a run last year right before he did so. Any chance you can let me know when it's going to happen this year so I can play him in ultimate?
It was the other way round mate. I told the Bin Dipper after meticulous and objective mathematical research that there was no way in hell SKD could keep his last couple of big scores going.
Liverpool decided not to pick him up.
Cunt went on to have a 5 game average over 50!!!
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Sounds like a smart move considering they probably drafted better than you.
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Firstly with Tamou and Hannant no longer with the team some minutes have been freed up in the pack. No one knows how they will be distributed but surely there will be some value in the Cowboys pack, it is just a matter of making the correct pick
The bench is likely to be made up of Hampton, Hess, Asiata and one of Kaufusi, Hoare, Spina. Using the returning starts average minutes from last season (Scott 46, Granville 61, Bolton 35, Lowe 78, Cooper 79, Taumalolo 50) lets assume a few things. Lowe and Cooper will be playing 80 most weeks so lets lock them in with 80 each. Scott isn't going to increase in minutes as he gets older so lets leave him at 46. Granville will play a similar number of minutes at 61. Bolton and Taumalolo might see 5 minutes extra each so lets put them at 40 and 55 respectively. Hampton will come on and give Granville a rest with 19 minutes. Asiata was playing 25 minutes a game last year this might move to 30. The Cowboy's 4th prop rarely played more than 25 minutes. This gives a starting lineup of:
Scott 46
Granville 61
Bolton 40
Lowe 80
Cooper 80
Taumalolo 55
and a bench of:
Hampton 19
Hess 45
Asiata 30
Kaufusi/Spina/Hoare 24
Hess's value will come down to where he spends those 45 minutes. On the edge and I think he is over priced. In the middle I think he is under priced
Nice analysis, I was just about to write similar in the rate my team thread to answer @Scouter's question. I had come up with very similar except I had Kaufusi/Spina/Hoare at 30 and Asiata at 25, so much a much. It's worth noting that some of the increased minutes for the forwards comes with the departure of Kostjasyn because he averaged 42min not only relieving Granville but shuffled through the backrow at times. I don't expect Hampton to do that, and like you I see him getting 20 minutes. Hess may spend time in the middle and/or Lowe could move to prop to accommodate Hess, which means Lowe possibly gets a short rest also.
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I asked the question in the other thread but cheers @Mulvy & @multiple.scoregasms for the replys. Surely if a backrower goes to prop it would be Taumalolo as he has the right build for it? I feel like Ethan Lowe would get belted playing in the middle.
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Doesn't really matter who is playing lock and who is playing prop as the Cowboys use them the same. Either way if Hess is used on the edge instead of in the middle Lowe or Cooper will spend some time in the middleScouter wrote:I asked the question in the other thread but cheers @Mulvy & @multiple.scoregasms for the replys. Surely if a backrower goes to prop it would be Taumalolo as he has the right build for it? I feel like Ethan Lowe would get belted playing in the middle.
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Hess getting 45 minutes doesn't make him look appealing unless he increases his workrate. His last 3 matches last season (Excluding Finals) he averaged 50 minutes, scored a try and still only averaged 36 points. He had an 80 minute match where he scored a try and he couldn't crack 50 points. I don't see him doing enough work to make him a pickup who makes you a significant amount of money. He is a big investment for a 35 point player.
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Random wrote:Hess getting 45 minutes doesn't make him look appealing unless he increases his workrate. His last 3 matches last season (Excluding Finals) he averaged 50 minutes, scored a try and still only averaged 36 points. He had an 80 minute match where he scored a try and he couldn't crack 50 points. I don't see him doing enough work to make him a pickup who makes you a significant amount of money. He is a big investment for a 35 point player.
Yeah my interest in him is waning. He may end up a valuable pick up later in the year, but I don't think so to start rnd 1.
I just skipped through the replay of their weekend trial. Neither Lowe or Hess spent any time in the middle of the field, noting there was no Gavin Cooper. Paul Green would have also been auditioning bench props. Lowe appeared to play the first 3/4 of the match on the right edge. Hess played the first half on the left edge then returned to the field and played the final quarter on right edge when Lowe went off.
It may be that Cooper spends time in the middle, but Hess doesn't do enough work to warrant picking him if he only plays on the edge. I just can't see where he gets more than 45-50 minutes.
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Scouter wrote:I asked the question in the other thread but cheers @Mulvy & @multiple.scoregasms for the replys. Surely if a backrower goes to prop it would be Taumalolo as he has the right build for it? I feel like Ethan Lowe would get belted playing in the middle.
I reckon Hess will get 45-55 mins. He'll be the main benefactor of the available minutes on offer. He'll come off the bench on the 25-35 min mark & play out the game on the right edge. Hess on for Taumalolo & Lowe to lock. When Taumalolo comes back on he'll spell Lowe. Since Hess came into the side Lowe is no longer an 80 min player. Taumalolo could also be used in front row as well. The Cowboys have said Hess will get good mins in 2017.
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All this Hess talk is making me nervous. I've already shuffled my entire team around to accommodate the likelihood of Brodie Croft playing 5/8 and now I might have to do the same with Hess. If they come out and say he'll get big minutes then I'd have to believe it I mean why lie about it?
I mean you can't run with every cow or every gun in a team but if he's going to be super popular it's almost like you can't afford to run without him. If he fails well you might be a leg up on a lot of people but if he goes good then you're one of the few idiots running around without him.
I mean you can't run with every cow or every gun in a team but if he's going to be super popular it's almost like you can't afford to run without him. If he fails well you might be a leg up on a lot of people but if he goes good then you're one of the few idiots running around without him.
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Johnny B Goode wrote:All this Hess talk is making me nervous. I've already shuffled my entire team around to accommodate the likelihood of Brodie Croft playing 5/8 and now I might have to do the same with Hess. If they come out and say he'll get big minutes then I'd have to believe it I mean why lie about it?
I mean you can't run with every cow or every gun in a team but if he's going to be super popular it's almost like you can't afford to run without him. If he fails well you might be a leg up on a lot of people but if he goes good then you're one of the few idiots running around without him.
Why would you rearrange your team to get a player because of a pre-season article talking him up.
Its barely a step above 'training the house down'
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The talk here is mostly talking him down, too, haha
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In no way am I saying he's a sure thing. But he's in my team for now as there's some value there I think but we'll have to see what TLT throws up. I like that people are pointing out the negatives because it forces you to reconsider and make sure you are happy with the decision.