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    2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 15

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    Post by Spectre Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:45 am

    Is it just me, or has everyone around here become a mod?
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:46 am

    Welshy wrote:
    You have to think longer term and not just after the 19.

    If Tedesco scored 30 when you expected 50 you wouldn't dump him would you

    So why Saifiti after a 19 when expecting 40?

    Teddys a fullback, no need to worry about pack politics and whos in the coaches good books as to who will get the minutes needed to flourish.

    Saifitis score will depend more on what the coach does and what others do, to many variables for me. If Saifiti was a 1PPM player at the back end of last year in the same pack then id be inclined to give him another go.

    I have no idea where to find stats from last year
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    Post by ty22 Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:51 am

    superbucks wrote:

    Are you happy with playing Elgey in the 17? Should Slater return early, Jacks probably misses out, so you'd be forced to run Elgey. Not the end of the world since the rest of your team can make up for it... but Elgey is someone I would prefer to keep out of my 17.

    Your team is solid. Well done on your first year man Smile

    Thanks man, no dont like elgey in 17 but seems to be worth the risk for money possibly made plus need to free the cash up from sezer to uprage safiti to barnett.
    Other trade that I was considering was safiti > leota and sezer > sj, feel not as much $$$ potential and ties up too much money in halves
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    Post by Archer Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:01 am

    Spectre wrote:Is it just me, or has everyone around here become a mod?
    I like to think of it as a way to identify those you shouldn't trust.
    #FightTheMan
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:01 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Teddys a fullback, no need to worry about pack politics and whos in the coaches good books as to who will get the minutes needed to flourish.

    Saifitis score will depend more on what the coach does and what others do, to many variables for me. If Saifiti was a 1PPM player at the back end of last year in the same pack then id be inclined to give him another go.

    I have no idea where to find stats from last year
    That's not the point, you are talking about dumping Saifiti based off his R1 score of 19

    If you see value in others for cheaper or upgrading to a certified gun then carry on, can get them all right at start of season

    but dumping guys because of a shit score isn't the way to go
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    Post by superbucks Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:16 am

    I'm dumping Saifiti because I wasn't really impressed with what I saw. Granted it was rd 1 and across the Tasman but I was hoping for a more positive performance. Getting someone like Barnett or Taumololo right now gives me more confidence. That said I tend to agree with the patient approach as a one-off score shouldn't drive decisions (hypocritical perhaps since I'm looking at Barnett/Lolo but hmph Wink )

    ty22 wrote:Thanks man, no dont like elgey in 17 but seems to be worth the risk for money possibly made plus need to free the cash up from sezer to uprage safiti to barnett.
    Other trade that I was considering was safiti > leota and sezer > sj, feel not as much $$$ potential and ties up too much money in halves

    That's fair enough. Jacks looks like a decent cow too (I'm probably doing the same trades as you). He made 35 tackles which is a good sign.
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    Post by Archer Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:21 am

    Welshy wrote:
    That's not the point, you are talking about dumping Saifiti based off his R1 score of 19

    If you see value in others for cheaper or upgrading to a certified gun then carry on, can get them all right at start of season

    but dumping guys because of a shit score isn't the way to go
    It feels soooo good though. I like to imagine you've personally handed over the marching orders with a smug look and then cracked open a coldie to celebrate before they even make it out the door. Especially if its a player you've never really liked anyway, like oh i dunno just plucking a name from the air... Frizell*. Rage on i say, consider it therapeutic, its practically a must.





    And then immediately undo the Trade and take the sensible advice instead. 
    *I don't really hate the Friz... not yet. Gallen or Fajita however
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    Post by Honeysett Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:33 am

    I'm going to captain Teddy. Not because I think he'll score 90 bit because it's wet again for Cam Smith and if the Dragons can score 40 on the Panthers then maybe the Tigers can score through their best player.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:50 am

    If he didn't miss his 3 tackles he would have scored 28.

    That's still not worth holding onto him. I was after back end scores.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:55 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:If he didn't miss his 3 tackles he would have scored 28.

    That's still not worth holding onto him. I was after back end scores.
    He only made 11 tackles, 15 tackles less than his avg when playing 40+ minutes.
    Just a bad day at he office

    Merit to trading him out, I'm not arguing that, hell I'm dumping him, but its not on the basis of his 1 round score of 19
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:02 am

    Interesting

    Updated Roosters team list have Issac Liu dropping off bench....

    15. Kane Evans
    16. Ryan Matterson
    17. Conor Watson
    18. Chris Smith
    19. Jo Manu
    23. Zane Tetevano
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:08 am

    Welshy wrote:
    He only made 11 tackles, 15 tackles less than his avg when playing 40+ minutes.
    Just a bad day at he office

    Merit to trading him out, I'm not arguing that, hell I'm dumping him, but its not on the basis of his 1 round score of 19

    Someone had to fail and there is an opportunity for better scores and money making, at this stage it can't be turned down. Just one of those things.

    Wallace was on the radar pre season obviously and it just turns out he's better lol
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:13 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Someone had to fail and there is an opportunity for better scores and money making, at this stage it can't be turned down. Just one of those things.

    Wallace was on the radar pre season obviously and it just turns out he's better lol
    Fair enough

    Just you said you were getting rid because he scored 19 and it couldn't be overlooked, If Wallace scores 25 this week will you trade him out next week?
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:48 am

    Welshy wrote:
    Fair enough

    Just you said you were getting rid because he scored 19 and it couldn't be overlooked, If Wallace scores 25 this week will you trade him out next week?

    Well he better bloody not
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:53 am

    Captaincy options:

    Thunderstorms in Auckland all weekend leading to a repeat performance by Smith? Mannering a no-go with doubts over fitness/minutes. Worth a punt on Surgess having a bonanza against Manly's patched-up middle and less-than-amazing edge?
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    Post by THEGAME Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:32 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:Captaincy options:

    Thunderstorms in Auckland all weekend leading to a repeat performance by Smith? Mannering a no-go with doubts over fitness/minutes. Worth a punt on Surgess having a bonanza against Manly's patched-up middle and less-than-amazing edge?

    I'm tempted by James against the a Knights
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:18 am

    @ Milhcy re your JDB post in the previous thread. I'm getting JDB by any means possible for round 2 & captaining him. It involves selling Gallen & maybe ET.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:21 am

    [quote="Liverpool_Bulldog"]Here'a a doozy of an opening question

    If I've already traded out a fit player for a moneymaker/better scorer in Saifiti>Wallace is it then stupid to trade out another fit player in McGuire/ET to get JDB in?[/quote

    I would sell ET for JDB but not McGuire.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:34 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:Captaincy options:

    Thunderstorms in Auckland all weekend leading to a repeat performance by Smith? Mannering a no-go with doubts over fitness/minutes. Worth a punt on Surgess having a bonanza against Manly's patched-up middle and less-than-amazing edge?

    Yeah, this is a good point. Its been hammering down in NZ's north and its projected to continue. The current forecast (for what its worth) is for it to be abslutely bucketing down at game time. Could be another low scoring game.

    I might captain JDB this week, or for a POD maybe Surgess.
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    Post by Warriors Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:08 am

    Just summing up my thoughts on some trade ideas.

    I think any gun deserves another shot this week e.g people jumping off players like Gallen/Merrin/surgess etc to bring in JDB/tedesco on the back of try scoring games is ludicrous.

    I would only be chasing JDB if I didn't have good captaincy options in Fifita/smith/McInnes.

    People jumping off midrangers that scored 40 points e.g KBrom and ET I think is a wasted trade. Looks like they will both make money.  Hell they scored better than a lot of guns I will mention below.

    The way I see it JDB and Tedesco and Barnett are now all overpriced compared to their average. Players will score above their average and below their average all year, an average is an average.

    It's a long season and you need to be patient. Think about your team as a collective 17 scoring points per dollar. You are better off in the long run picking up Jbrom/ mannering/ b Thompson/ Merrin/ burgess/ whitehead underpriced than paying a premium for JDB/Barnett now based on 1 game. But I guess we can all be short sighted at times. People also seem to be forgetting the byes as all three of these targets don't play round 12.

    Save trades and play the long game, plan for byes


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