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team flies today I believe. Reckon Milf could fly tomorrow no problems.. wonder if he would fly game day if given the clearance?
Cancel all this. JT has just been officially ruled out for origin - http://www.qrl.com.au/news/2017/05/25/injury_update_johnat.html
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my tv broke wrote:I am starting to have serious doubts about trading Smith to Friend. His scoring really worries me and its only two bye rounds where Watson won't be on the bench. What if Watson performs well in those games, does he earn more time on the field when they're at full strength?
Friend cracked 50 two weeks in a row but both had tries, other than that his scoring is fairly unappealing this season.
Whats the story with Lindsay Collins? He was 18th man last week, can he score 2 x 20pts over the two big byes that the Roosters play? I still have Musgrove who doesn't seem to be favoured by madge.. and Jason Clark is still injured too, whens he back? May push Musgrove back further? Never know when Sutton will be back in the forwards too. So at this stage we can assume that Musgrove is netting me 0 points..
If Smith plays 4 games over the next 8 at an average of 60 thats 240 points.
Friend plays 6 games over the next 8 at an average of 50, thats 300 points
If i trade Musgrove to Collins (rather than Smith to friend), and Collins scores 2 x 20 pts over the big byes, thats 40 points.
Smith + Collins - 280 pts - (cost:1 trade. nets cash for upgrades)
Friend - 300pts (cost: 2 trades. may make a little cash off friend.. may not).
The reason I need the cash this week is to turn CHN into SURGESS.
Smith is also a reliable captain choice for the games he plays. I have captained Smith every week this season. That said in rnd 13 they play the Knights and it worries me that storm will flog them and he'll get an early mark.
Am I missing anything else? Any other FRF cheapies likely to score better over two big bye rounds? (can't spot any). I think I have to accept that Musgrove is probably dead to me which makes it all the more appealing to just trade him to Collins..
I posted this before but for me the clincher on Smith too Friend was the opportunity cost of the $140k which would otherwise be tied up in Smith for the next 9 rounds. You put that into upgrading another player then in theory you get another ~14 points per round out of that guy too for 7 of the next 9 rounds. Thats how I look at it anyway. Thats ~100 points. Im questioning my logic now, is there anything wrong with what I am saying?
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Cancel all this. JT has just been officially ruled out for origin - http://www.qrl.com.au/news/2017/05/25/injury_update_johnat.html
Thanks mate. Not great for Milf owners but at least its clarity!
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Rippin and Tearin wrote:
I posted this before but for me the clincher on Smith too Friend was the opportunity cost of the $140k which would otherwise be tied up in Smith for the next 9 rounds. You put that into upgrading another play then in theory you get another ~14 points per round out of that guy too for 7 of the next 9 rounds. Thats how I look at it anyway. Thats ~100 points. Im questioning my logic now, is there anything wrong with what I am saying?
Well assuming you want Smith back in R20, you'll need to make sure you can find the cash to upgrade.
But otherwise, yes, the extra cash from Smith to Friend can help elsewhere.
In my case, Lamb - SJ
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Rippin and Tearin wrote:
I posted this before but for me the clincher on Smith too Friend was the opportunity cost of the $140k which would otherwise be tied up in Smith for the next 9 rounds. You put that into upgrading another player then in theory you get another ~14 points per round out of that guy too for 7 of the next 9 rounds. Thats how I look at it anyway. Thats ~100 points. Im questioning my logic now, is there anything wrong with what I am saying?
Good point. Though you still have to find that 140k to get Smith back in rnd 19. I guess its all about timing (eg another cash out somewhere else to fund it). Friend may well bridge the gap, maybe you only need 80 to 100k to get Smith back. (i'm working off the theory he won't though).
The thing that makes it appealing for me is Musgrove. He's sitting there doing nothing for me. Who knows. He may win a spot back next week. He may not. He's not in my 17 and not making any money either.
Maybe Collins is useless too, but if he can get 40 pts in the big byes it does help negate the points loss of holding Smith. I know nothing about those other guys in the 17 to 21 for the Roosters so they may leapfrog Collins too.
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Anyone that had hopes of Milford playing for the Broncs this Saturday can forget it.
Thurston confirmed out of Origin 1.
Thurston confirmed out of Origin 1.
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Got a laugh out of this bit of State of Origin merch:
Bit harsh on whoever plays as NSW - they can't even connect 2, let alone 4. Lucky it's not connect 8-in-a-row I guess
Bit harsh on whoever plays as NSW - they can't even connect 2, let alone 4. Lucky it's not connect 8-in-a-row I guess
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my tv broke wrote:
Cancel all this. JT has just been officially ruled out for origin - http://www.qrl.com.au/news/2017/05/25/injury_update_johnat.html
The more important part there for most people will be that Wallace is now 18th man.
Expect if QLD lose on the back of a poor forward display, he'll be straight in the team for game 2.
Lillyman must be on notice.
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The more important part there for most people will be that Wallace is now 18th man.
Expect if QLD lose on the back of a poor forward display, he'll be straight in the team for game 2.
Lillyman must be on notice.
I think Myles would be the first to go, wouldn't he?
Either way, in my opinion Wallace shoudl be in the 17 for game one.
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Kaufusi is a useful bye player. And if you can handle him dropping a bit of cash, he might be worth holding him for points in 15 + 18.
With Ponga, got are really sweating on a Coote injury for him to play again, so I'd ditch him first
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I'd go Ponga mate - I personally don't think he should have ever been a hold once he lost the Fullback roll (hindsight a beautiful thing there though). Way too much $ tied up in a player on the hope Coote suffers another injury. Injury aside he could start round 15 and score 50 say, but in the mean time you could be using all that cash tied up in him to score ~40 points per round...
In saying that I posted before why I reckon CHN is a sell too, so I'd lose him next week.
Kaufusi I think could be worth a hold simply cause of his bye schedule. But it looks like he has lost his 80 min roll and if so will bleed cash through to round 18.You'd have to work out whether the bye round points (given the balance of your side) is worth holding for at the expense of lost $. I personally sold him last week as his value had got to the point where you could almost bring anyone in for him.... That won't likely be the case for that much longer.
Thanks fellas. Was leaning towards Ponga. Semi playing all 3 big byes is a huge plus, and happy to gamble on him. Was going to keep Ponga to go Nofo in a couple of weeks, but might fuck off RTS instead if he doesn't pull his finger out of his ass. Kaufusi I thought about holding, but will reasses next week. Was going to go him to Tolo and Brailey to McInnes, but won't have enough if I trade CHN to Tolo instead and keep Kaufusi. Could cashout Kelly but don't want to use 3 trades.
EDIT: Even though I've held Ponga, I don't see him starting in round 15. Coote at the back, Bowen for O'Neil, GGM if need be, and Asiata/Thompson/Hampton. 2 in the halves, 1 on the bench. Hess/Cooper/Lowe/Fensom still available, and Spina or even Jensen will start when Asiata gets moved.
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I think Myles would be the first to go, wouldn't he?
Either way, in my opinion Wallace shoudl be in the 17 for game one.
Depends on both their performances I guess, but both should be gone, Guerra too. Papa out only hope I reckon here.
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Well assuming you want Smith back in R20, you'll need to make sure you can find the cash to upgrade.
But otherwise, yes, the extra cash from Smith to Friend can help elsewhere.
In my case, Lamb - SJ
Yup absolutely. But to be honest Im not concerned about that at all. I reckon if you have traded well for the byes then you'll have several guys you can cash out which will easily cover the cost of getting Smith back. For me that's guys like Fuimaono, Elliot, even guys like CNK and MWZ might be able to cover it.
I also think if you are bringing in Friend you are bringing him in on the premise he'll be scoring > his ave - so he will (should) make money too.
Then the last thing is you gotta make sure you have enough trades, but that's already been brought up.
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By the way - its a repost but any thoughts on the following:
Ive not been spending too much time on my team but wondering what you guys think of my trades for this week?
I took a punt last week and cashed out a couple players leaving ~550k on the sidelines, got lucky and still got 870.
here's my team as it stands:
Smith Brailey
Tolman Fai Wallace McGuire
Surgess Chricton JDB Whitehead Elliot Fuimaono
Cleary Munster CNK Fogerty
SMat D Walker R Jennings Kelly
Slater RTS Suli Burns MWZ
Currently have trades pencilled in of:
Jennings to Gallen via Fuimaono
Fogerty to Walker
Smith to Friend
Leaves 55k for next week where I plan to bring in Merrin for Whitehead.
Does that look ok or does someone have a better alternative??
Ive not been spending too much time on my team but wondering what you guys think of my trades for this week?
I took a punt last week and cashed out a couple players leaving ~550k on the sidelines, got lucky and still got 870.
here's my team as it stands:
Smith Brailey
Tolman Fai Wallace McGuire
Surgess Chricton JDB Whitehead Elliot Fuimaono
Cleary Munster CNK Fogerty
SMat D Walker R Jennings Kelly
Slater RTS Suli Burns MWZ
Currently have trades pencilled in of:
Jennings to Gallen via Fuimaono
Fogerty to Walker
Smith to Friend
Leaves 55k for next week where I plan to bring in Merrin for Whitehead.
Does that look ok or does someone have a better alternative??
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Would it be worth going Burns to Walker instead? More cash then you have that DPP with Walker which might come in handy over some bye rounds.
Not a fan of Smith to Friend but the cash you save makes sense, and I respect anyone with the balls to go through with it.
I still have Kelly there too and kind of accepting the fact he might have to stay for a while.
Not a fan of Smith to Friend but the cash you save makes sense, and I respect anyone with the balls to go through with it.
I still have Kelly there too and kind of accepting the fact he might have to stay for a while.
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So looking at the Bulldogs pack & bench this week I think I'll get Asipeli Fine as my cash out instead of Tualau. They have Kasiano & Tualau on the bench who will spell Tolman, J. Graham & Fualalo so I don't think Tualau will get many minutes as both Tolman & J. Graham can play big minutes. Elliot will play 80 minutes in the 2fr but Eastwood I'd imagine will be spelled by Fine & get decent minutes & more minutes than Tualau. Also with Klemmer & J. Jackson playing origin then if they are rested in round 13 or if they are injured during origin I think Fine is much more of a chance to grab a bench spot in round 13 than Tualau is. Thoughts.
I think 1 of my trades this week will be Idris out & Fine in.
I think 1 of my trades this week will be Idris out & Fine in.
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Chris GarryVerified account @ChrisGarry7 16m16 minutes ago
Breaking: Thurston also in doubt for Origin 2. Hoping to play round 15. As @7NewsQueensland reported a 6-8 week injury.
All very confusing, isn't it?
Breaking: Thurston also in doubt for Origin 2. Hoping to play round 15. As @7NewsQueensland reported a 6-8 week injury.
All very confusing, isn't it?
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if you think eastwood wont play 80. then fualalo is the better prospect.
however i think that eastwood will have the big minutes and fualalo and fine will share their role at lock. the dogs play late sunday and then monday the following week so there is time to rest for jackson and klemmer.
in saying that im guessing tualau for 20-30 and fine for 30-40 mins. i would take fine over tualau
however i think that eastwood will have the big minutes and fualalo and fine will share their role at lock. the dogs play late sunday and then monday the following week so there is time to rest for jackson and klemmer.
in saying that im guessing tualau for 20-30 and fine for 30-40 mins. i would take fine over tualau
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my tv broke wrote:Chris GarryVerified account @ChrisGarry7 16m16 minutes ago
Breaking: Thurston also in doubt for Origin 2. Hoping to play round 15. As @7NewsQueensland reported a 6-8 week injury.
All very confusing, isn't it?
He was almost 100% before the last Cowboys game now it's 6-8 weeks? How can he play round 15 when he will be in camp?
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pm888 wrote:if you think eastwood wont play 80. then fualalo is the better prospect.
however i think that eastwood will have the big minutes and fualalo and fine will share their role at lock. the dogs play late sunday and then monday the following week so there is time to rest for jackson and klemmer.
in saying that im guessing tualau for 20-30 and fine for 30-40 mins. i would take fine over tualau
Yeah that's why I think out of all the low dollar players like Tualau, Fai, Collins that Fine is the better choice because he'll play the more minutes & the fact that he's a ctr in fantasy is probably the lowest priced cash out who will play 2 of the big bye rounds & then disappear with no a.e. problems.