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    Post by wolfking Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:06 pm

    Jack Bird out apparently.
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    Post by GreenMachine Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:10 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    Some people with kids who have committed suicide have gotten to the point where they've genuinely believed their family is better off without them.

    Having lots of money won't change that view.

    WTF is this comment. Clown. During NRL suicide and bullying week too.

    I know 2 such parents and they are and we're devastated.

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    Post by GreenMachine Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:12 pm

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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:13 pm

    GreenMachine wrote:

    WTF is this comment. Clown. During NRL suicide and bullying week too.

    I know 2 such parents and they are and we're devastated.

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    I think you might have interpreted that in a way that was not intended. He's talking about the parent committing suicide, not the kids.
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    Post by mango Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:13 pm

    filthridden wrote:So I was doing some playing around yesterday and this is the top 17 on total points for the year so far before last night's game:

    McInnes (McCulloch)
    Tolman, Vaughan
    Gallen, Crichton, Taumalolo (JDB, Mannering, Surgess)
    Johnson, Cleary
    T-Turbo, Roberts
    Rapana, Walker, Nofoaluma

    18-21: JTurbo, DCE, Fifita, Cam Smith

    If you had captained Gallen every round you'd be sitting on 15,894 without using any trades and in 23rd overall.

    Obvs this team is impossible but you could put Bailey instead of McCulloch... Felise instead of Surgess and maybe a few others (Cotric and Moga in your centres?) and you could easily be in the top 100 without making any changes to your team all year.

    Then if you could've picked the right 18-25, switch them in and out when needed, pick the right captain each week.... who needs trades? Laughing

    That would've been absolute torture not having to trade.

    I pick a shit team on purpose just so I can trade tongue Laugh 3
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:17 pm

    Knowing a few people who have been through some pretty bad depression - its not something you can just "fix", like some seem to think ("oh harden up" etc). Those I do know absolutely wish they could stop feeling the way they do but just cannot control it. It really sucks. They just end up thinking death is the only way to stop feeling the way they do and that is such a sad thing.
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    Post by Moose Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:18 pm

    mango wrote:
    That would've been absolute torture not having to trade.

    I pick a shit team on purpose just so I can trade tongue Laugh 3

    Glad I'm not the only person with this game plan.

    Hi, my name is Moose and I'm a tradeaholic.
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    Post by GreenMachine Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:19 pm

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    I think you might have interpreted that in a way that was not intended. He's talking about the parent committing suicide, not the kids.

    Ok. I'm in page catch up mode. Very sensitive topic
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    Post by GreenMachine Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:21 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Knowing a few people who have been through some pretty bad depression - its not something you can just "fix", like some seem to think ("oh harden up" etc). Those I do know absolutely wish they could stop feeling the way they do but just cannot control it. It really sucks. They just end up thinking death is the only way to stop feeling the way they do and that is such a sad thing.

    Spot on MTB

    Back in the days when I was managing a team of jockeys, one of the boys suffered depression. Really is one of the worst mental and emotional illnesses and sad to see. It's not an overall character flaw or weakness or Worse yet decision... it's bloody horrible disease to see someone battle
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:23 pm

    GreenMachine wrote:

    Ok. I'm in page catch up mode. Very sensitive topic

    Haha all good bro! On a lighter note, it absolutely reads that way too, to the extent that I had a bit of a chuckle!
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:24 pm

    GreenMachine wrote:

    Ok. I'm in page catch up mode. Very sensitive topic

    I may not have expressed myself clearly.

    I was specifically thinking of Kurt Cobain's suicide, where he said of his daughter "for her life will be so much happier without me."

    I do not agree with such thoughts, merely pointing out that such thoughts exist.

    It must be terrible to be in a position where you think your family and loved ones would not miss you, for it is almost never true. I do not wish such feelings upon anyone.




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    Post by Showbags Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:28 pm

    anyone risking ARey?

    If he is out my trades are
    SJ to DCE
    ARey to Teddy via Munster

    If he plays on then I'd do just 1 trade
    SJ to Pearce.
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    Post by Honeysett Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:28 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    I may not have expressed myself clearly.

    I was specifically thinking of Kurt Cobain's suicide, where he said of his daughter "for her life will be so much happier without me."

    I do not agree with such thoughts, merely pointing out that such thoughts exist.

    It must be terrible to be in a position where you think your family and loved ones would not miss you, for it is almost never true. I do not wish such feelings upon anyone.





    I read what you wrote and was shocked, but that makes more sense. I think it was the wording that threw me.
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    Post by GreenMachine Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:29 pm

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    Haha all good bro! On a lighter note, it absolutely reads that way too, to the extent that I had a bit of a chuckle!

    Just came at a time I'm reading this page when I'm watching the Kelly family story on the Footy show (its on before Friday night football in the U.K.), talking about raising awareness. Now aware this whole discussion stemmed from some loose opinions vis a vis Chester
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:31 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    I may not have expressed myself clearly.

    I was specifically thinking of Kurt Cobain's suicide, where he said of his daughter "for her life will be so much happier without me."

    I do not agree with such thoughts, merely pointing out that such thoughts exist.

    It must be terrible to be in a position where you think your family and loved ones would not miss you, for it is almost never true. I do not wish such feelings upon anyone.



    For me it wasn't so much that I didn't think my family/friends would miss me, in fact I knew they would. I did on occasion think that the lives of a couple people close to me might be better (long run) without me.

    The trouble is you are just so low and feel so much in a hole, that you can't really see a way out, and therefore all your thoughts are clouded by negativity and desperation. You want a better life for yourself, and in my case more so for the people close to me. Therefore suicide can feel like a feasible way to change things.

    Of course it is not the right option, and of course there are ways to get your self out of that hole. But at the time its an incredibly difficult place to be in and make the right decisions.
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    Post by Pain Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:35 pm

    I think that it's great that this forum isn't just fantasy nrl related. It's what keeps it real.
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    Post by GreenMachine Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:35 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    I may not have expressed myself clearly.

    I was specifically thinking of Kurt Cobain's suicide, where he said of his daughter "for her life will be so much happier without me."

    I do not agree with such thoughts, merely pointing out that such thoughts exist.

    It must be terrible to be in a position where you think your family and loved ones would not miss you, for it is almost never true. I do not wish such feelings upon anyone.





    Got it. Thanks for the context and quote. definitely not a great topic to have your own name to as a shared view. And agree re terrible place they must be to be that far mentally chewed up.
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    Post by GreenMachine Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:37 pm

    Pain wrote:I think that it's great that this forum isn't just fantasy nrl related.  It's what keeps it real.

    Yep. Certainly what creates the community. Manyba drunken night in this place back in the day. Especially this time of the year when the fantasy premier league has opened and people have 0 to 3 trades Smile
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    Post by mango Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:37 pm

    I've traded Pearce in for SJ but thinking about reversing it and not trading this week. It's lets me see how Pearce goes in his first game back after origin and without Friend. It also gives me a chance to see if there is any substance to the Surgess rumour and whether I'll need to save a trade for him.

    I can cover SJ with Munster this week but it means I'll be a bit weaker in the backs by having to play RTS.

    Thoughts anyone?
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    Post by Moose Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:41 pm

    mango wrote:I've traded Pearce in for SJ but thinking about reversing it and not trading this week. It's lets me see how Pearce goes in his first game back after origin and without Friend. It also gives me a chance to see if there is any substance to the Surgess rumour and whether I'll need to save a trade for him.

    I can cover SJ with Munster this week but it means I'll be a bit weaker in the backs by having to play RTS.

    Thoughts anyone?

    Unless you are waiting on SJ's potential return in rd 24 I would trade him out this week. That is a lot of coin to have sitting there not scoring any points. Pearce has consistently scored well this year and should do so again this week up against the Knights. I would lock in the SJ to Pearce trade.

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