2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 31

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Some fallen players have some juicy prices and will be even more over the coming weeks. What do we need to see from these guys to consider them trade ins?

Gallen down 189k with more to come
Thurston down 93k with more to come
Ethan Lowe down 183k with more to come
Uate down 216k almost at base price
Capewell down 162k close to the bottom
Rapana down 165k probably as low as he gets
TMM down 224k probably needs an injury to be relevant
Mann down 248k probably one injury away
Lamb down 253k with more to come
Peats down 143k with more to come
Vaughan down 102k probably needs an injury
JDB down 107k probably needs an injury
Roberts down 74k Could be at his low point
Cordner down 118k could be close to bottom
Holmes down 199k and on the way back up

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Some fallen players have some juicy prices and will be even more over the coming weeks. What do we need to see from these guys to consider them trade ins?

Gallen down 189k with more to come
Thurston down 93k with more to come
Ethan Lowe down 183k with more to come
Uate down 216k almost at base price
Capewell down 162k close to the bottom
Rapana down 165k probably as low as he gets
TMM down 224k probably needs an injury to be relevant
Mann down 248k probably one injury away
Lamb down 253k with more to come
Peats down 143k with more to come
Vaughan down 102k probably needs an injury
JDB down 107k probably needs an injury
Roberts down 74k Could be at his low point
Cordner down 118k could be close to bottom
Holmes down 199k and on the way back up

Cap'n Ranta wrote:

Yeah Dufty is definitely a hold for a few weeks at least which is why hes so low. I used averages but there's more to Dufty than just that for me.

Proiblem for me is that if I give any of Ponga, Turbo, Tedesco or Edwards the attacking stats Dufty has I'd expect a lot better than:

- 3 tries for 81
- 2 tries for 46
- 1 try for 29

Also has
- 41, 28 and 32 in games without tries. (the 28 came with 6 TBs)

Dufty is in the best team with an awesome forward pack. He will have more opportunities but his role in the team will lead to some quiet weeks too. Stuck behind Hunt and Widdop who are dominant playmakers and the dragons have strong finishers (Aitken) outside him. Similar to their forwards there aren't enough points to go round. The others I mentioned are all far more important to their team overall than Dufty is to the dragons.

Ponga has the goalkicking and is a big part of Newcastles offence. TBs are almost a base stat for the guy. Always involved
Turbo - effectively playing as a half (Croker dissapears) and as a dangerous fullback - more potential
Tedesco - Has been super average (fantasy wise) and is still 3rd best WFB....... If it ever clicks at the chooks expect him to kick into another gear.
Edwards -  More central to the panthers offense. Turbo lite to me as he can facilitate and is a dangerous runner.
RTS - Not sold personally on RTS but rate him higher than Dufty on sheer size and attacking prowess. Similar player that goes missing some weeks and has dangerous runners like Kata outside him
Mbye - Goalkicking and a getting half playmaking and kick metres while playing fullback. Floor in a full game this season is 40+.

You can definitely hold and hope for a good game short term but what are the odds the dragons continue undefeated this season and outscoring all their opponents by 19 points a game? Not doubting that all these guys will have another big game at some point but the script has been mint for Dufty so far compared to all the others and hes still in the 2nd tier? I expect the dragons strong form to continue but just cant see him as a keeper despite the great start.

But its a great play for now and he certainly could have another big week or two soon that keeps the Dufty train going longer. Certainly wouldn't jump off now and who knows. By rd 12 the dragons might be even better ( ) and Dufty could be more integral than he is now.

Cap'n Ranta wrote:

Yeah Dufty is definitely a hold for a few weeks at least which is why hes so low. I used averages but there's more to Dufty than just that for me.

Proiblem for me is that if I give any of Ponga, Turbo, Tedesco or Edwards the attacking stats Dufty has I'd expect a lot better than:

- 3 tries for 81
- 2 tries for 46
- 1 try for 29

Also has
- 41, 28 and 32 in games without tries. (the 28 came with 6 TBs)

Dufty is in the best team with an awesome forward pack. He will have more opportunities but his role in the team will lead to some quiet weeks too. Stuck behind Hunt and Widdop who are dominant playmakers and the dragons have strong finishers (Aitken) outside him. Similar to their forwards there aren't enough points to go round. The others I mentioned are all far more important to their team overall than Dufty is to the dragons.

Ponga has the goalkicking and is a big part of Newcastles offence. TBs are almost a base stat for the guy. Always involved
Turbo - effectively playing as a half (Croker dissapears) and as a dangerous fullback - more potential
Tedesco - Has been super average (fantasy wise) and is still 3rd best WFB....... If it ever clicks at the chooks expect him to kick into another gear.
Edwards -  More central to the panthers offense. Turbo lite to me as he can facilitate and is a dangerous runner.
RTS - Not sold personally on RTS but rate him higher than Dufty on sheer size and attacking prowess. Similar player that goes missing some weeks and has dangerous runners like Kata outside him
Mbye - Goalkicking and a getting half playmaking and kick metres while playing fullback. Floor in a full game this season is 40+.

You can definitely hold and hope for a good game short term but what are the odds the dragons continue undefeated this season and outscoring all their opponents by 19 points a game? Not doubting that all these guys will have another big game at some point but the script has been mint for Dufty so far compared to all the others and hes still in the 2nd tier? I expect the dragons strong form to continue but just cant see him as a keeper despite the great start.

But its a great play for now and he certainly could have another big week or two soon that keeps the Dufty train going longer. Certainly wouldn't jump off now and who knows. By rd 12 the dragons might be even better ( ) and Dufty could be more integral than he is now.

Cap'n Ranta wrote:

Yeah Dufty is definitely a hold for a few weeks at least which is why hes so low. I used averages but there's more to Dufty than just that for me.

Proiblem for me is that if I give any of Ponga, Turbo, Tedesco or Edwards the attacking stats Dufty has I'd expect a lot better than:

- 3 tries for 81
- 2 tries for 46
- 1 try for 29

Also has
- 41, 28 and 32 in games without tries. (the 28 came with 6 TBs)

Dufty is in the best team with an awesome forward pack. He will have more opportunities but his role in the team will lead to some quiet weeks too. Stuck behind Hunt and Widdop who are dominant playmakers and the dragons have strong finishers (Aitken) outside him. Similar to their forwards there aren't enough points to go round. The others I mentioned are all far more important to their team overall than Dufty is to the dragons.

Ponga has the goalkicking and is a big part of Newcastles offence. TBs are almost a base stat for the guy. Always involved
Turbo - effectively playing as a half (Croker dissapears) and as a dangerous fullback - more potential
Tedesco - Has been super average (fantasy wise) and is still 3rd best WFB....... If it ever clicks at the chooks expect him to kick into another gear.
Edwards -  More central to the panthers offense. Turbo lite to me as he can facilitate and is a dangerous runner.
RTS - Not sold personally on RTS but rate him higher than Dufty on sheer size and attacking prowess. Similar player that goes missing some weeks and has dangerous runners like Kata outside him
Mbye - Goalkicking and a getting half playmaking and kick metres while playing fullback. Floor in a full game this season is 40+.

You can definitely hold and hope for a good game short term but what are the odds the dragons continue undefeated this season and outscoring all their opponents by 19 points a game? Not doubting that all these guys will have another big game at some point but the script has been mint for Dufty so far compared to all the others and hes still in the 2nd tier? I expect the dragons strong form to continue but just cant see him as a keeper despite the great start.

But its a great play for now and he certainly could have another big week or two soon that keeps the Dufty train going longer. Certainly wouldn't jump off now and who knows. By rd 12 the dragons might be even better ( ) and Dufty could be more integral than he is now.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Some fallen players have some juicy prices and will be even more over the coming weeks. What do we need to see from these guys to consider them trade ins?

Gallen down 189k with more to come - With a few more games to drop and some certainty around his minutes I'll take a shot at a cut price keeper later if he gets 55 minutes. The latest drop puts risk reward enough on my side
Thurston down 93k with more to come - Haven't watched the last 2 cowboys games but if I see 2 good consecutive games and I'll take a shot but I have weak halves. It'd be more hope he'll come good than feeling great about it
Ethan Lowe down 183k with more to come - role change for him with Hess taking his spot. Can't see him in my team unless hes down 300k and gets the starting spot back for the foreseeable future
Uate down 216k almost at base price - Based on the weekend that's a no from me. Tempting for sure though. Will add to the watch list I'd need to be pretty desperate for a cash out.
Capewell down 162k close to the bottom - Doubt we will get the injury news we need for me to feel confident in taking him. Still a high BE this week so maybe not enough injury weeks to generate the cash before hes back to his low scoring role. 5-6 weeks of game time and I'll take him next week I guess
Rapana down 165k probably as low as he gets - I'd hope for a few more drops to feel safe (one bad game this week) but he's mighty tempting already
TMM down 224k probably needs an injury to be relevant - Agree
Mann down 248k probably one injury away - - Agree
Lamb down 253k with more to come - Juicy rd 13 trade in. But with Pearce next to him I'm not convinced there is that much cash in him. Also running out of time fast with Watson surely to return before you'd likely get full value. 2 solid games with some attacking threat and I'd take a chance
Peats down 143k with more to come - Role change. If Rein is on the bench this is the new normal. Not interested barring a team change
Vaughan down 102k probably needs an injury - Probably a pass. Not enough points for all the guys in that pack
JDB down 107k probably needs an injury - Probably a pass. Not enough points for all the guys in that pack
Roberts down 74k Could be at his low point - Low priority trade in to get a centre IMO. Won't be upset if hes 100k higher when I buy him in 10ish rds
Cordner down 118k could be close to bottom - Doesn't have Gallens pedigree and don't see as a keeper. 200k as a cow would tempt me. Say one more bad (HIA?) affected score and I'd take a look
Holmes down 199k and on the way back up - Got him last week as a POD cow. Involvement needs to pick up but praying for a big score and relying on his talent

Milchcow wrote:
What are you expecting from Su'a? Prior to his try last week he was averaging 19 points from the bench.
If he goes back to that he'll make you $50k profit.

Needs to be starting before you would consider him.

Cap'n Ranta wrote:

- Havili should be in reserves over Sua. I value consistency and don't think Sua will be as dangerous vs the storm (warriors have a few missed tackles in them)
- Scott is a good call this week (MEL vs BNE) but over the next 4 I think Isaako is fine to fill there instead. Set and forget CTRs ahead of any other position is a luxury trade. Scott is 50k more and averages 5 less than Isaako anyway. Sideways until Melbourne is shown to be playing well consistently.
- I'd probably single trade Rochow to Gosie instead. Plays 13 with similar potential and $s unless you are certain where the broncos minutes are with Sua getting 40+.

Stuffness wrote:I don't really get the su'a love. Before this last game where he got a try, 6 tb's and an lb (assume most of these came from the one play) he got 19 in 71 minutes against the knights. I've gone griffin > Gosiewski, Won't score big but i expect mid 35-40 or so with potentisl to get better. (If levi isn't named then will reverse and punt lodge out

Stuffness wrote:I don't really get the su'a love. Before this last game where he got a try, 6 tb's and an lb (assume most of these came from the one play) he got 19 in 71 minutes against the knights. I've gone griffin > Gosiewski, Won't score big but i expect mid 35-40 or so with potentisl to get better. (If levi isn't named then will reverse and punt lodge out

Fortitude wrote:People who are looking at Pearce should consider B.Hampton.

Seems to have locked down that spot, and isn't sucking anywhere near as hard as he used to. Downside, you've missed out on the price gains. Upside plays rd 13 and I think Dpp?

White Lightning wrote:tbh I might go Koroisau over Matterson if Koroisau is going to play 80 minutes.