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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:03 am

    Iron Mike wrote:The reason I am looking at JFH and/or Sele is Panthers have lost Peachey, CHN, Merrin and now Kikau for the start of the year. With Hetherington and Ellis sharing Kikau's role I suspect and Yeo firmly planted as an 80 minute edge someone will need to step up in the middle. Have I lost my mind?
    I am looking at him as well, but he did already average 60 minutes last year. Maybe he plays a more settled role this year and doesn’t try to kill everyone every tackle, but even then if he gets his missed tackles down he only gains an extra few points.

    I feel Lane at the same price has more room to improve his average; last year 9 bench starts dragged his average down.  Concern with Lane is does he keep his great try scoring strike rate. The Bulldogs were winning, but Manly were losing. I reckon he can personally.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:06 am

    Milchy wrote:

    Recently I've been looking at Friend as well, and he has the same situation. For about the same price he also has the potential to average mid 50s. FLip a coin I think as to who averages better between the 2.

    In games where Radley started he averaged 57. Other games he averaged under 40  (really that is due to a stretch between rounds 4-11 where he just got poor minutes and poor scores that may or may not have been related to Radley's starting position)

    I had him as my captain in rounds 4 and 5. Radley stole every single minute from him and I was throwing things at the tv
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:07 am

    Hatsy28 wrote:

    Interesting, I kind of see Stimson and Sironen as slow burns. I have no stats on Garner but he has been getting a lot of talk the last few days with Lawrence out for approx 10 weeks. Do you feel comfortable having 2 slow burn 2rfs in your 17?

    Sironen is currently out but Stimson has a BE of 28. I can see 40 being a very reasonable average for him, 45 if he can nab some tries. That makes him pretty undervalued and set for some price rises. IMO
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:11 am

    Rapture_NRL wrote:
    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    What are Munsters scores with Hughes at the back. Ive been deciding on a HLF to partner Morgan and Munster is in the price range.

    I gotta go back to the posts a put up a while back, but from 9 games without Slater, he averaged 61 or so. 7 were at 5/8, and 5 were with Hughes and I think it was 68 average. Of those 9 games, only 2 were at FB and that had his only score below 50 (it was 22)
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:18 am

    my tv broke wrote:
    SI wrote:Then Bennett was quoted as saying after the game that Cook has been asked to do some of the kicking this year as he has a great boot.

    Wait, hold up a sec.

    Do we all start scrambling Cook into our side now?
    Yep, you know Clint can be trusted!!!
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:28 am

    B/L wrote:Anyone catch a look at the 'expert's on foxsports do their supercoach draft. Lol is all I can say.

    There were a couple of interesting insights on there... Bedsy saying that having played under Bennett he let his hookers play what's in front of them and that's good for Cook. He mightn't be as affected by Wayne as first thought - although I still can't afford him. Also pointing out that Bennett moving Surgess to 2rf is the same move he made sending Beau Scott to be Soward's protecter, potentially allowing ARey to uplift. So, a little food for thought. Ennis is clueless though.
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:32 am

    JUST A REMINDER THAT LEAGUES L1 THROUGH L9 NEED TO BE JOINED BY TOMORROW NIGHT. IF NOT YOU MAY BE REPLACED.  THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT SCRAMBLING TO FILL THE LEAGUES 5 MINUTES OUT FROM FIRST LOCKOUT WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO BE FOCUSSING ON OUR OWN TEAMS.


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    Post by Iron Mike Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:33 am

    Milchy wrote:

    I don't think McCullough is a must have, but I think having Mahoney as your primary hooker is a recipe for trouble. Hooker is a prime scoring position and forgoing so many 50+ options leaves you needing to spend so many trades and cash getting them in later. Almost certainly you will want 2 of Cook, Smith, Friend, McCullough in your final team (probably Cook and Smith)

    Thing is, none of those guys play round 12 and only Cook is really guaranteed to be top 2 hookers come seasons end I feel. Would rather start with Mahoney and lock in Taupau and Taumololo etc if I'm starting with a keeper or potential keeper I would prefer a round 12 one.
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:40 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:To fit Munster in I have to downgrade Hughes to BMoz and bench is now Mahoney IPap Garner DBrown. With 98k itb. Worth it?

    I'd do that. I'd probably pick someone other than BMoz but you have $98k to fix anything
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    Post by Iron Mike Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:46 am

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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:54 am

    After some more 'research', this is my team.

    Macca
    Taupau (c), Ah Mau
    Arrow, Murray, Whitehead
    Munster, Morgan
    Kahu, Nikora
    Edwards, Hughes, Ravalawa

    Mahoney, Sironen, Stimson, Garner
    Keighran, Brown, Xerri, Host

    Thoughts lads Smile
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    Post by MilfordTheMagician Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:59 am

    Iron Mike wrote:Looking like TPJ is struggling to be fit for round 1 with Gillett likely to be 13.
    Will anyone take a gamble on David Fifita if starting over the likes of Papali'i, Lane, JFH etc.

    The Broncos medical team have told Seibold they expect TPJ to be fit for round 1. Whether that's as a starter or off the bench no one knows.
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    Post by Bumnuts Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:59 am

    Just thought would post my team

    Macca
    Fifita lam
    Arrow murray garner
    Munster morgan
    Lomax nikora
    Rts cnk edwards
    Stimson brown big papi mohoney
    4× 212ks

    Depending on lomax will see what happens. 200k itb
    Come at me
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    Post by Pookus McFly Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:02 pm

    Milchy wrote:

    I don't think McCullough is a must have, but I think having Mahoney as your primary hooker is a recipe for trouble. Hooker is a prime scoring position and forgoing so many 50+ options leaves you needing to spend so many trades and cash getting them in later. Almost certainly you will want 2 of Cook, Smith, Friend, McCullough in your final team (probably Cook and Smith)

    Yeah I imagine everyone would be planning will be to upgrade to Cook and Smith, so my thoughts are that it doesn't really matter who you have in that position as long as they are increasing in value and bridging that gap. Granted Mahoney will require a larger sum of money to upgrade than a McCullough pick (in the event that Macca isn't a keeper and requires upgrading, that is). But Mahoney still has plenty of dollar value for wiggle room if things don't pan out, whereas a cheaper hooker like Katoa might worry me for those reasons. And most importantly, the new format of NRLF really makes your team more fool-proof to these problems, in that I can really trade any player into a premium hooker (instead of needing to trade hooker>hooker pre-2018) to get myself out of trouble. Lama is only 100k away from Macca so if he isn't getting the minutes and Macca is killing it, I can always correct that mistake early (though I have a few possibilities up my sleeve). You mentioned Friend earlier, and I too am interested, but thinking I will take a slight warchest (150-200k) into round 1 and play Macca and Friend off against each other to find the best pick between them if they really are looking to be irresistible. Realistically I think they are only slightly undervalued.

    Question to the forum, I mentioned my cash in the bank. I have never done this in my numerous years of playing fantasy sports, but it feels right this season. With all the mid-rangers looking undervalued I have a number in my team and am currently running with 192k ITB to try and dig myself out of any traps. Who else is going into R1 cashed up, and how big is your warchest?
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:04 pm

    SI wrote:
    Shocked

    Working through the thread, did you manage to confirm this Rapture?

    Can't look at the sheet atm cause I'm on my phone but I found my hieroglyphic notes where I wrote down all his 9 games without Billy.

    2018

    4 games without Slater= 61.5 average
    - 1 game at FB, the rest with Hughes

    2017

    5 games without Slater= 57.8 (injury affected 22, 66.75 otherwise)
    - I had to go look on NRL.com and just found that even though he was wearing 6, he was FB for all these games. When I looked at the spreadsheet initially, I thought he was only listed as playing FB once

    TLDR Munster is best at FB (65.Cool but 2018 w Hughes (61.3)
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:05 pm

    MilfordTheMagician wrote:

    The Broncos medical team have told Seibold they expect TPJ to be fit for round 1. Whether that's as a starter or off the bench no one knows.

    some guy on sc went to the training today & TPJ was just doing light jogging up & down the sideline & in his opinion he didn't look ready for rd 1
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:07 pm

    My current pack is

    Friend
    Fifita, Surgess
    Murray, Crichton, Taumalolo

    It goes a bit downhill from there and I need to play both Brown & Keighran in my 17 but might run with it.
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    Post by MilfordTheMagician Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:08 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    some guy on sc went to the training today & TPJ was just doing light jogging up & down the sideline & in his opinion he didn't look ready for rd 1

    I'd trust the Broncos medical team over a SC player. He might not play but he still has a week until the game.

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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:12 pm

    I have 100k to jump on any cows that go boomfa Rd1

    I think thats the minimum that id like to have
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:15 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    Yeah I imagine everyone would be planning will be to upgrade to Cook and Smith, so my thoughts are that it doesn't really matter who you have in that position as long as they are increasing in value and bridging that gap. Granted Mahoney will require a larger sum of money to upgrade than a McCullough pick (in the event that Macca isn't a keeper and requires upgrading, that is). But Mahoney still has plenty of dollar value for wiggle room if things don't pan out, whereas a cheaper hooker like Katoa might worry me for those reasons. And most importantly, the new format of NRLF really makes your team more fool-proof to these problems, in that I can really trade any player into a premium hooker (instead of needing to trade hooker>hooker pre-2018) to get myself out of trouble. Lama is only 100k away from Macca so if he isn't getting the minutes and Macca is killing it, I can always correct that mistake early (though I have a few possibilities up my sleeve). You mentioned Friend earlier, and I too am interested, but thinking I will take a slight warchest (150-200k) into round 1 and play Macca and Friend off against each other to find the best pick between them if they really are looking to be irresistible. Realistically I think they are only slightly undervalued.

    Question to the forum, I mentioned my cash in the bank. I have never done this in my numerous years of playing fantasy sports, but it feels right this season. With all the mid-rangers looking undervalued I have a number in my team and am currently running with 192k ITB to try and dig myself out of any traps. Who else is going into R1 cashed up, and how big is your warchest?

    I agree re bringing in Cook in that this new fantasy model allows you the flexibility of trading any player for Cook rather than just being limited to upgrading a hooker.
    I've never been a fan of having heaps of bank saved up for potential round 2 targets. To me using that strategy means you will be selecting inferior players & not maximising points. You won't get off a to good start re rank. I'd rather have points than value. You will still have your value cows but you will score good points as well if you maximise your budget.

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