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    NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 11

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    Post by Pookus McFly Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:29 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    There are only a few players on my ‘scared not to own list’ I try to get these players ASAP when upgrading. This year it is Andrew Fifita, James Tedesco, Marty Taupau and Damien Cook. These guys have all shown the ability to put out monster scores in 1 or 2 plays which can have you on the edge of your seat till the 80th minute. I don’t see RTS as being in this tier

    I do agree with your list. But as good as Cook and Taupau can be, I just don't think they can possibly have a better fantasy season than they did last year, which means at some point they will either be (however slightly) cheaper or the same value. Tedesco could very easily start with a hundred but being in the backline, he has the possibility of a couple of 30s in a row and able to be picked up cheaper also. Fifita scares me too much and I own him because I can't find such excuses as with those other three. I am more scared with RTS because he has so much room for improvement. Would not bat an eyelid if he was hovering around the 50 point average this year. Which for a WFB would make him a must have. But even if he does, he will get there from averaging games scoring 0, 75, 25, 100, 50 and so on. A scary roller coaster to ride, and even scarier to choose not to ride
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    Post by Milchcow Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:43 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    There are only a few players on my ‘scared not to own list’ I try to get these players ASAP when upgrading. This year it is Andrew Fifita, James Tedesco, Marty Taupau and Damien Cook. These guys have all shown the ability to put out monster scores in 1 or 2 plays which can have you on the edge of your seat till the 80th minute. I don’t see RTS as being in this tier

    Yes, Tedesco and Taupau i think will be on my early upgrade list, assuming I don't start with them.
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    Post by King Assassin Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:44 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    I do agree with your list. But as good as Cook and Taupau can be, I just don't think they can possibly have a better fantasy season than they did last year, which means at some point they will either be (however slightly) cheaper or the same value. Tedesco could very easily start with a hundred but being in the backline, he has the possibility of a couple of 30s in a row and able to be picked up cheaper also. Fifita scares me too much and I own him because I can't find such excuses as with those other three. I am more scared with RTS because he has so much room for improvement. Would not bat an eyelid if he was hovering around the 50 point average this year. Which for a WFB would make him a must have. But even if he does, he will get there from averaging games scoring 0, 75, 25, 100, 50 and so on. A scary roller coaster to ride, and even scarier to choose not to ride

    Taupau didnt score a try last year. And he looks to be as fit as ever. I think hes gonna be getting some big minute games this year. Someone can make start a big arguement with me if they want but i'm saying it right here, Taupau will average 60+ this season.
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    Post by Camo123 Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:49 pm

    Cook and Napa VS McCullough and LAM.

    Thoughts?? (Other FRF is Fifita, backup HOK is Mahoney). All the iterations of trying to fit Cook into my team have involved using Tedesco as the sacrifice but this way I can keep him
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:50 pm

    Milchy wrote:

    Yes, Tedesco and Taupau i think will be on my early upgrade list, assuming I don't start with them.

    I normally grab Fifita fairly early cause he tends to have a higher base than the other two with still a freakish ceiling. I have a couple of doubts Taupau can back up his career year so upgrade order probably depends on the performance I’m getting in that position
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    Post by Milchcow Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:56 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    I normally grab Fifita fairly early cause he tends to have a higher base than the other two with still a freakish ceiling. I have a couple of doubts Taupau can back up his career year so upgrade order probably depends on the performance I’m getting in that position

    Well I'll definitely be starting with 1 of Fifita/Taupau. Get the other one in early (or whichever player missed that has become an elite FRF this year) and that is FRF done for the year
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    Post by churg Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:16 pm

    As my last second row - TPJ or Lane
    Cheers.
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    Post by mattnz Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:29 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    There are only a few players on my ‘scared not to own list’ I try to get these players ASAP when upgrading. This year it is Andrew Fifita, James Tedesco, Marty Taupau and Damien Cook. These guys have all shown the ability to put out monster scores in 1 or 2 plays which can have you on the edge of your seat till the 80th minute. I don’t see RTS as being in this tier

    If Reynolds goes down at some point, everyone is going to sell their left nut to get Cook in their team.
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    Post by mintotheimmortal Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:36 pm

    what do we think about hampton v holland?
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:53 pm

    mintotheimmortal wrote:what do we think about hampton v holland?

    Hampton is on my radar but Holland edges him out with kicking
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    Post by standard-issue Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:03 pm

    Camo123 wrote:Cook and Napa VS McCullough and LAM.

    Thoughts?? (Other FRF is Fifita, backup HOK is Mahoney). All the iterations of trying to fit Cook into my team have involved using Tedesco as the sacrifice but this way I can keep him

    If you get to have Ted and Cook by having Napa, then 1 vote for that from me. I'm probably not picking Napa but I would in your scenario. Who knows, Napa might eve start cranking out 40's.
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    Post by Vanish Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:06 pm

    I think the scariest thing about RTS for me is that picking him feels like picking up a keeper. And it may well be that, like last year, he ends up the 4th best WFB. Tommy T was a solid 5 points a game better than RTS last year, so it would feel bad to feel like you are missing out on those points every week, but equally bad to trade him out.

    The issue I have is either I start with RTS or I run someone like Lomax, since I'm not terribly convinced with the cash making potential or keeper status of Hughes, Edwards or Watson.
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    Post by Vanish Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:11 pm

    SI wrote:

    If you get to have Ted and Cook by having Napa, then 1 vote for that from me.  I'm probably not picking Napa but I would in your scenario.  Who knows, Napa might eve start cranking out 40's.

    Napa reminds me a lot of Kane Evans last year. A few people got him because they saw a change in clubs and the potential for a larger role. The problem is both Napa and Evans are pretty low PPM players and that isn't going to be fixed by a change in club. Napa averaged 50 minutes a game in 2017 and yet only 30 points. I'd avoid.
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    Post by standard-issue Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:13 pm

    churg wrote:As my last second row - TPJ or Lane
    Cheers.

    I would be conservative and go Lane.  If TPJ starts then maybe reconsider, but even then, the Hammys are becoming a concern and so is what number he wears.
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    Post by Camo123 Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:24 pm

    Rapture_NRL wrote:

    Hampton is on my radar but Holland edges him out with kicking

    Is there an actual up-to-date list of goalkickers. The most recent article is this https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/02/12/stat-attack-rating-the-best-goal-kickers-at-your-club/ but it includes players who have since transferred and percentages are skewed by second choice players with limited attempts. I'll try my best at it (based on order of teams in fantasy)

    Broncos: 1. Isaako, 2. Milford
    Bulldogs: 1. Holland, 2. Foran?? (Martin will obviously kick if he plays)
    Cowboys: 1. Kahu, 2. Feldt
    Dragons: 1. Widdop, 2. Lomax (if he plays), 3. Hunt/Lafai
    Eels: very subjective but 1. Moses, 2. Brown, 3. Gutherson,
    Knights: 1. Ponga, 2. no idea if Lino doesn't ever play
    Panthers: 1. Cleary, 2. Maloney
    Rabbitohs: 1. Reynolds, 2. Gagai
    Raiders: 1. Croker, 2. Sezer
    Roosters: 1. Mitchell, 2. SST
    Sea Eagles: 1. DCE, 2. Hodkinson (if he is on field he is primary GK)
    Sharks: 1. Johnson, 2. Townsend
    Storm: 1. Smith, 2. Stimson, 3. Munster
    Tigers: 1. Marsters, 2. Mbye
    Titans: 1. Gordon, 2. Taylor, 3. Roberts
    Warriors: 1. Keighran, 2. Luke, 3. Harris


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    Post by Milchcow Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:26 pm

    Vanish wrote:

    Napa reminds me a lot of Kane Evans last year. A few people got him because they saw a change in clubs and the potential for a larger role. The problem is both Napa and Evans are pretty low PPM players and that isn't going to be fixed by a change in club. Napa averaged 50 minutes a game in 2017 and yet only 30 points. I'd avoid.

    Evans has generally been a pretty high PPM player, its just that his game time has been crap.

    Napa hasn't always been crap. His 2015/2016 averages were fine (especially compared to his current price) and unlike Evans, he'll get a starting spot and reasonable minutes. Its just the past 2 years where his output has gone to crap. Certainly he is far from a must have, but he is a better proposition than Evans
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    Post by Vanish Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:44 pm

    Milchy wrote:

    Evans has generally been a pretty high PPM player, its just that his game time has been crap.

    Napa hasn't always been crap. His 2015/2016 averages were fine (especially compared to his current price) and unlike Evans, he'll get a starting spot and reasonable minutes. Its just the past 2 years where his output has gone to crap. Certainly he is far from a must have, but he is a better proposition than Evans

    Actually looking at Evans, his PPM have historically been much better than I realised, he's just a very low minutes player. Fair point, it wasn't the best comparison.

    If you think Napa is can reach his best historical PPM of 0.78 (2015/2016), and constantly play for an average of 50 minutes a game, he'll average 39 and be definitely worth it at his price.

    His last two season though have seen that PPM fall to 0.64 in 2017 and 0.57 in 2018, which isn't especially great, and I think this is closer to what we should expect. If he repeats his PPM of last year of 0.57 but gets up to about 60 minutes a game, which would be longer average minutes then he's had to play at any point when at the Roosters, then he would probably be worth it, but just barely.
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    Post by Thickshake Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:02 pm

    Anyone interested in joining a draft league? Thought I might set up an 8 team league for an 8:30 draft tomorrow night. Really wanted to do a proper draft cash league this season but just haven't gotten around to it.

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    Post by Pubnation Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:02 pm

    Are there going to be any international games during the origin period making players like Taupau unavailable?
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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:09 pm

    mintotheimmortal wrote:what do we think about hampton v holland?
    Like both but will most likely be going with Holland with his goal kicking

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