NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 31

wolfking wrote:The annoying thing with a player like Haas and his minutes and score, it pretty much guarantees EVERYONE will be on him next week and playing him.  He'll probably become one of those players that it doesn't matter what they score as everyone has him ala Nikora.  Well done to those that got him last night, but come next week, I doubt there will be any serious teams that don't get him.

The question may be more, does he become a safe captaincy gun option each week. If you can determine that early and he keeps putting up these kinds of scores, just with base stats, that is valuable.

wolfking wrote:The annoying thing with a player like Haas and his minutes and score, it pretty much guarantees EVERYONE will be on him next week and playing him.  He'll probably become one of those players that it doesn't matter what they score as everyone has him ala Nikora.  Well done to those that got him last night, but come next week, I doubt there will be any serious teams that don't get him.

Like Martin last year I guess. Still fun for what it enables us to do with our teams and may lead to some STRONG final teams a bit earlier this season

Still only 2 trades per week though sadly

wolfking wrote:The annoying thing with a player like Haas and his minutes and score, it pretty much guarantees EVERYONE will be on him next week and playing him.  He'll probably become one of those players that it doesn't matter what they score as everyone has him ala Nikora.  Well done to those that got him last night, but come next week, I doubt there will be any serious teams that don't get him.

CHT did just about the same thing, and everyone didn't jump on him.

The saying that you can't get all the cows is really coming to the fore now. CHT, Haas, Okunbor, Xerri all turning up at once. And if you are grabbing all of them, then you are likely missing out on Bateman/Teddy/Ponga/Twal when they are cheap.

Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:

Like Martin last year I guess. Still fun for what it enables us to do with our teams and may lead to some STRONG final teams a bit earlier this season

Still only 2 trades per week though sadly

That's right, trade the right person next week for him could mean more the difference than actually getting him I suppose. Never thought about that side of it.

Milchy wrote:

CHT did just about the same thing, and everyone didn't jump on him.

The saying that you can't get all the cows is really coming to the fore now. CHT, Haas, Okunbor, Xerri all turning up at once. And if you are grabbing all of them, then you are likely missing out on Bateman/Teddy/Ponga/Twal when they are cheap.

CHT and Bateman this week for me.
Haas and Ponga next week.

The secret is a balanced diet

Milchy wrote:

CHT did just about the same thing, and everyone didn't jump on him.

The saying that you can't get all the cows is really coming to the fore now. CHT, Haas, Okunbor, Xerri all turning up at once. And if you are grabbing all of them, then you are likely missing out on Bateman/Teddy/Ponga/Twal when they are cheap.

Haas will have much more of an edge cause he's a forward and will get DPP if he stays at lock. CHT and Xerri are tough and yes you can't have them all, but I can't see any serious teams NOT prioritizing getting Haas next week.

Milchy wrote:

CHT did just about the same thing, and everyone didn't jump on him.

The saying that you can't get all the cows is really coming to the fore now. CHT, Haas, Okunbor, Xerri all turning up at once. And if you are grabbing all of them, then you are likely missing out on Bateman/Teddy/Ponga/Twal when they are cheap.

Money generation vs scorers

Anyone ever gone full cow before and tried to make a late points surge after some crazy cash generation? Could be an interesting group team idea next year to compete against the community team set up we already have?

wolfking wrote:

That's right, trade the right person next week for him could mean more the difference than actually getting him I suppose.  Never thought about that side of it.

Yeah picking the right person to drop will be important and people who gamble right with squad balance may do the best

Ie instead of haas in EMGs as a cow he looks like a first team scorer potentially like Nikora for example, leaving room in the EMGs for and 17 for more cash generation

Makes me regret my midranger strategy to start the season even more as the risk is greater with dropping my middies IMO

Im really torn on CHT and Xerri.

Both will be in the playing 17 this week, a goal kicking half from a inconsistent team vs a talented, quick/strong CTR for a decent team.

Guess JS swings it.

Can anyone expand on this?

Random but sometimes i sit here and wonder how my fav player of all time Freddy Fittler would have scored in NRL fantasy

Milchy wrote:

CHT did just about the same thing, and everyone didn't jump on him.

The saying that you can't get all the cows is really coming to the fore now. CHT, Haas, Okunbor, Xerri all turning up at once. And if you are grabbing all of them, then you are likely missing out on Bateman/Teddy/Ponga/Twal when they are cheap.

I think there is a difference between a big minute gun forward getting base stats at high PPM over 60 minutes and a halves scores. Haas has always had high PPM at every level he has played. As long as Haas is getting big minutes and isn't injured, I expect he will keep putting up big numbers. I wouldn't have the same confidence of CHT week after week, based on his ISP numbers.

Not being able to get all the cows and guns at the same time is the reason I am trying to grab the best cows as early as possible, to free up trades when needed for getting fallen guns in.

mattnz wrote:

I think there is a difference between a big minute gun forward getting base stats at high PPM over 60 minutes and a halves scores. Haas has always had high PPM at every level he has played. As long as Haas is getting big minutes and isn't injured, I expect he will keep putting up big numbers. I wouldn't have the same confidence of CHT week after week, based on his ISP numbers.

Not being able to get all the cows and guns at the same time is the reason I am trying to grab the best cows as early as possible, to free up trades when needed for getting fallen guns in.

But the big minutes and his body holding up aren't the certainties you're assuming. They all have risks, which relates to the point Milch is making, you have to choose which risks you're OK with (eg look at the decision lb is making) and pick the cow/underpriced gun based on that as you can't get them all.

VERTiiGO wrote:Random but sometimes i sit here and wonder how my fav player of all time Freddy Fittler would have scored in NRL fantasy

I would have loved to have seen Brad Clyde in fantasy. Phwoar, now he woulda been a gun!

Haas feels a bit like Bateman after round 1. Put up a massive score, in minutes that were unexpected (Ricky stated pre round 1 that Bateman wouldnt play 80 to begin with).

64 minutes last night for Haas is crazy. He's 20 years old. And it wasn't until right at the end of the game that he even looked tired.

They are going to have to manage his minutes, I would expect he doesn't always play so many, but he will plaly enough to put up good scores, and scores worth bringing him in for next week.

mattnz wrote:

I think there is a difference between a big minute gun forward getting base stats at high PPM over 60 minutes and a halves scores. Haas has always had high PPM at every level he has played. As long as Haas is getting big minutes and isn't injured, I expect he will keep putting up big numbers. I wouldn't have the same confidence of CHT week after week, based on his ISP numbers.

Not being able to get all the cows and guns at the same time is the reason I am trying to grab the best cows as early as possible, to free up trades when needed for getting fallen guns in.

The thing that might have made people cautious on Haas (myself included) was his horrible few games last year. Could almost have been called Payne Glass.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Im really torn on CHT and Xerri.

Both will be in the playing 17 this week, a goal kicking half from a inconsistent team vs a talented, quick/strong CTR for a decent team.

Guess JS swings it.

Can anyone expand on this?

I'm in the same boat mate. I think CHT will be the way for me so at least I have some half cover. If I go Xerri I will only have Morgan and Carty, which isn't ideal, and Ponga but he will be at the back.

wolfking wrote:

I'm in the same boat mate.  I think CHT will be the way for me so at least I have some half cover.  If I go Xerri I will only have Morgan and Carty, which isn't ideal, and Ponga but he will be at the back.

We must have the same shit teams mate.

You bring in one and ill get the other and well debrief on Monday?

Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:

Yuck. Nothing worse than someone being self righteous with poor motives behind it if that is indeed what he's playing at. If this was true though why not wait til after the world cup or a little later in his career?

Also, mods I'm happy to ditch this convo as it's hardly on topic. Just say the word

I think you are posting with the upmost respect to everyone. Im not religious so in particular I've enjoyed reading your thoughts. Nice work mate.

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

We must have the same shit teams mate.

You bring in one and ill get the other and well debrief on Monday?

So we ruin both of them for everyone else?........not bad!

SoylentGreen wrote:Q1. Pick 2 from Lawrie, Capewell, Cartwright
Q2. Sivo vs Ravalawa

Need to make these calls today to be able to loop in Haas' score

Lawrie, Capewell
Sivo