NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 67

6 / 386 here, with Haas, Uele, SJ, Xerri, Nikora, Tevega- to go.

Apparently eels have offered George Burgess $300-350k per season. Original offer was between $600-700k lol.

WT2K wrote:Apparently eels have offered George Burgess $300-350k per season. Original offer was between $600-700k lol.

Maybe he should gouge, I mean gauge the market in the off-season and see what he can get.

WT2K wrote:Apparently eels have offered George Burgess $300-350k per season. Original offer was between $600-700k lol.

300k is overs for him right now lol

luckynumber8 wrote:

WT2K wrote:Apparently eels have offered George Burgess $300-350k per season. Original offer was between $600-700k lol.

Maybe he should gouge, I mean gauge the market in the off-season and see what he can get.

Agreed, he should take keep an eye out for another offer.

If George wants to stay in Aus his best option is to take a one year deal at whatever price he can get and prove himself again

Khany wrote:

Don't normally pay much attention to this, there does appear some definate bias, like the last game.

I counted at least 14 calls that went against the tigers
In chronological order


1. Benji got hit late after his kick and no penalty
2. Brooks was smashed after his kick and no penalty again
3. The pass for JWH to butcher for the first try was forward
4. Charge down from Radley - ref says not played at
5. Manu had his foot on the touch line the play before Tupou’s try and the touchie didn’t call it
6. Latrell Mitchell high tackle on Esan Marsters
7. Forward pass from Radley to Tuponuia
8. Manu grounds it in the in-goal but they deem it to be not-grounded and roosters get 20m re-start
9. Ref gives penalty for Elijah Taylor crusher tackle, there was nothing in it and definitely didn’t warrant a penalty
10. Morris was in front of the kicker and ends up tackling Marsters in the in-goal for a drop out when it should’ve been a penalty to tigers
11. Tigers had a 20m re-start and all the roosters were offside but no penalty was given
12. JWH hits Liddle high and the refs don’t call a penalty
13. They deem Marsters do have dropped the ball but he actually kicked it
14. Tigers kicked it on the last tackle and Tetevano kicks the ball away but the refs said not played at

Syzy wrote:


But is he a buy at 60mins?
Might average 50ish?

3 x 50's still makes him about 100k.
I read the only reason he came off last week was because he had to restrap his ankle which isn't 100% but is something he can manage.

If Tevaga is starting lock then he will average minimum 55

Ben Marlin wrote:
If Tevaga is starting lock then he will average minimum 55

I feel like that is a bit of a stretch the only 2RFs over 55 average are Taumalolo (65.7), Matterson and Bateman (both 55.3) and only 12 players overall are averaging over 55 (with the results skewed with Drinkwater and Friend included who have only played 1 and 3 games respectively)

I'd say you could safely expect 48-50 though in the next couple of weeks while Harris is out

It'll be interesting how tonight's game goes as on paper Warriors should dominate Knights' weakened team which could mean less tackles for Tevaga but it is Warriors after all

Camo123 wrote:

I feel like that is a bit of a stretch the only 2RFs over 55 average are Taumalolo (65.7), Matterson and Bateman (both 55.3) and only 12 players overall are averaging over 55 (with the results skewed with Drinkwater and Friend included who have only played 1 and 3 games respectively)

I'd say you could safely expect 48-50 though in the next couple of weeks while Harris is out

It'll be interesting how tonight's game goes as on paper Warriors should dominate Knights' weakened team which could mean less tackles for Tevaga but it is Warriors after all

He has a PPM of 0.93

I don’t see him getting any less than 60 minutes starting lock
0.93 x 60 minutes is 55.8 points

He may even end up getting more than 60 minutes, like last week

Ben Marlin wrote:
He has a PPM of 0.93

I don’t see him getting any less than 60 minutes starting lock
0.93 x 60 minutes is 55.8 points

He may even end up getting more than 60 minutes, like last week

There is a very long list of high PPM players who have gotten extra minutes and dropped PPM

I personally think Tevaga is a poor trade for this time of year. He is the kind of gamble you take in round 4 not low on trades at the business end

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

There is a very long list of high PPM players who have gotten extra minutes and dropped PPM

I personally think Tevaga is a poor trade for this time of year. He is the kind of gamble you take in round 4 not low on trades at the business end

Last week he scored 81 points in 73 minutes
Those points came entirely from tackles, tackle breaks, run meters and offloads - no attacking stats

I don’t think his PPM will drop by enough to make him a bad trade-in
He’s not that much of a gamble imo

Ben Marlin wrote:
If Tevaga is starting lock then he will average minimum 55

I think if you are expecting minimum 55's then you are going to be disappointed. That's elite territory. We don't have a big enough sample size on him and ppm is a pretty over-rated way of predicting points. ppm also drops with bigger minutes, and nobody even knows if he will get decent minutes. Now if he goes and gets 55's I'll be ecstatic to be proven wrong because I've traded him in, but I'll be happy with 50's, even 45's will be enough for my purposes.

Ben Marlin wrote:
He has a PPM of 0.93

I don’t see him getting any less than 60 minutes starting lock
0.93 x 60 minutes is 55.8 points

He may even end up getting more than 60 minutes, like last week

That PPM is slightly influenced by 2 short-minute games (injury affected I'm assuming). Realistically you can expect someone's output per min to decrease as they rise in mins which means it might be hard to extrapolate season PPM to new mins role. He had season high in metres, TBs (equal high) and tackles (obviously more likely to get more stats in more mins but is it sustainable getting 80m over other highest) and last match did go into GP

If you use his last season's PPM where he was playing higher mins (55 average) he had 0.83 PPM in 55 mins which if you extend to 60 mins is about 53.95 which may be a marginal difference but is still a minor fall in points

Ben Marlin wrote:
He has a PPM of 0.93

I don’t see him getting any less than 60 minutes starting lock
0.93 x 60 minutes is 55.8 points

He may even end up getting more than 60 minutes, like last week

PPM often goes down as a player's minutes increase. Fatigue resulting in missed tackles and errors, and players pacing themselves if they know they need to play longer.

Last week was the only time Tevaga's played more than 60 and it was a golden point game. I think with Burr back it will be sub 60 mins for Tevaga, but should be able to average close to 50. 55 is a pretty big ask though.

Mulvy wrote:

I think if you are expecting minimum 55's then you are going to be disappointed. That's elite territory. We don't have a big enough sample size on him and ppm is a pretty over-rated way of predicting points. ppm also drops with bigger minutes, and nobody even knows if he will get decent minutes. Now if he goes and gets 55's I'll be ecstatic to be proven wrong because I've traded him in, but I'll be happy with 50's, even 45's will be enough for my purposes.

Who is to say Tevaga is not an elite fantasy scorer?

And Tevaga played big minutes last week (73) for 81 points which including no attacking stats

Tevaga has played 5 games from the bench this year with more than 50 minutes. If he can get 50 minutes from the bench then I don’t think he will be getting less than 60 when starting

If you exclude his two injury-affected games, he averages 45 from the bench. That is his absolute minimum now that he’s starting and getting more minutes. I’m very confident scores more than 55 tonight

Camo123 wrote:

That PPM is slightly influenced by 2 short-minute games (injury affected I'm assuming). Realistically you can expect someone's output per min to decrease as they rise in mins which means it might be hard to extrapolate season PPM to new mins role. He had season high in metres, TBs (equal high) and tackles (obviously more likely to get more stats in more mins but is it sustainable getting 80m over other highest) and last match did go into GP

If you use his last season's PPM where he was playing higher mins (55 average) he had 0.83 PPM in 55 mins which if you extend to 60 mins is about 53.95 which may be a marginal difference but is still a minor fall in points

Good post, I agree with all your points

Just remember that he went off with an ankle injury last game as well so that sort of offsets the golden point

And I would think that 60 minutes will be minimum for Tevaga.

Ben Marlin wrote:
Last week he scored 81 points in 73 minutes
Those points came entirely from tackles, tackle breaks, run meters and offloads - no attacking stats

I don’t think his PPM will drop by enough to make him a bad trade-in
He’s not that much of a gamble imo

Surely tackle breaks are considered attacking stats?

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

There is a very long list of high PPM players who have gotten extra minutes and dropped PPM

I personally think Tevaga is a poor trade for this time of year. He is the kind of gamble you take in round 4 not low on trades at the business end

I generally insta-click like in anything you say MS, as VK’s quiz showed there is no more common sense and proven poster/manager than yourself... that said i believe only half of this post is true (the first sentence)

Tevaga is a very exciting trade and I couldn’t put anyone off him. Was disappointed I was far too light on trades not to jump on.

PPM aside it’s rare to get at this business end of the season an explosive or high upside differential like him. The odd POD is critical for those chasing and at his price almost picks himself

We’ve waited for him to get the big minutes and he may just do so from here out if they keep winning. I remember people thinking Burr was a bad pick start of season and although price and trade situation was far different, largely thanks to Mannering we do have years of proven scores from lock at the warriors. 

Good luck to those with anything close to double figure in trades who grab him because I actually think he’s a no brainer in that spot as a bye week player where 4 trades are allowed

GreenMachine wrote:
I generally insta-click like in anything you say MS, as VK’s quiz showed there is no more common sense and proven poster/manager than yourself... that said i believe only half of this post is true (the first sentence)

Tevaga is a very exciting trade and I couldn’t put anyone off him. Was disappointed I was far too light on trades not to jump on.

PPM aside it’s rare to get at this business end of the season an explosive or high upside differential like him. The odd POD is critical for those chasing and at his price almost picks himself

We’ve waited for him to get the big minutes and he may just do so from here out if they keep winning. I remember people thinking Burr was a bad pick start of season and although price and trade situation was far different, largely thanks to Mannering we do have years of proven scores from lock at the warriors. 

Good luck to those with anything close to double figure in trades who grab him because I actually think he’s a no brainer in that spot as a bye week player where 4 trades are allowed

Great post