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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 1 - Offseason Edition

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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:08 pm

    Burns looks good like others have said too, but geez he is made of very fragile glass, I dunno if I can take that risk.

    Billy Smith is probs the safer option.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:10 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    AJ maybe?

    Seems you're on the money here. AJ has an offer by WT (apparently) answer by Friday this week.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:13 pm

    WT2K wrote:

    Seems you're on the money here. AJ has an offer by WT (apparently) answer by Friday this week.
    You guys should grab him hopefully for your sake.
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    Post by No Worries Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:25 pm

    robelgordo wrote:

    That part is wrong, he averaged 45.2 across the season. But 49.6 at centre. There were 4 games at 5/8 that where he averaged about 25 that dragged him down. It’s pretty lazy by CK.

    Does it really matter what he's centre average is ? If he was priced only based on his center average sure, but he's not. The relevant comparison is his price point which is his season average regardless of where he played. Using any other data point creates inconsistancies. It's fake news by RG. (making an assumption that's the point at which you've combined 2 names) jocolor
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:49 pm


    Is Lomax going to be goal kicker this year?

    I think he's going to need the GK points to be at all useful (even then I'm not convinced)
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:50 pm

    No Worries wrote:

    Does it really matter what he's centre average is ?  If he was priced only based on his center average sure, but he's not. The relevant comparison is his price point which is his season average regardless of where he played. Using any other data point creates inconsistancies.  It's fake news by RG. (making an assumption that's the point at which you've combined 2 names) jocolor

    It matters when the entire analysis is based on trying to project his FB scores to determine his value against his price. Using a season points average that covers two positions makes a difficult exercise a nonsense IMO.
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:51 pm

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    I can’t see Easts leaving Verrills out of the side, he will get 20mins every week, I can’t see Friend averaging over 50 playing 60mins.

    Thanks for that site too.

    I can, and this is taking the fantasy goggles off:

    (1) Already have versatile players like Radley that can fill in at HOK for 10 mins
    (2) Friend is co-captain and was brought into GF team even though still under minor injury cloud and they need experience having lost Cronk
    (3) Using a substitution on HOK means one less for FRFs and both Friend and Verrills have the capability to play 80 mins - though looking at that interchange timeline article on earlier pages, Roosters pack usually play longer mins than average FRF

    I could see Verrills in squad potentially, but then he comes on and shifts Friend to lock like the GF
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:53 pm

    Milchy wrote:
    Is Lomax going to be goal kicker this year?

    I think he's going to need the GK points to be at all useful (even then I'm not convinced)

    Given Widdop has left, and their other back up options are Lafai/Hunt I'd say so

    I have been losing confidence in Lomax pick as well, but if he's available at CTR and plays FB, I'd probably still pick him
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:01 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    I can, and this is taking the fantasy goggles off:

    (1) Already have versatile players like Radley that can fill in at HOK for 10 mins
    (2) Friend is co-captain and was brought into GF team even though still under minor injury cloud and they need experience having lost Cronk
    (3) Using a substitution on HOK means one less for FRFs and both Friend and Verrills have the capability to play 80 mins - though looking at that interchange timeline article on earlier pages, Roosters pack usually play longer mins than average FRF

    I could see Verrills in squad potentially, but then he comes on and shifts Friend to lock like the GF

    Yep, Verrills was dropped every time Friend was fit enough to start. He may play a bit part off the bench at times, but Friend has always been a big minute hooker. I'd expect him to average 70+ minutes if he stays fit, and be well under priced.

    Every year people get unnecessarily worried that clubs are going to give their reserve hookers lots of game time for some reason.
    If clubs have an 80 minute hooker, they generally use them.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:30 pm

    Milchy wrote:
    Is Lomax going to be goal kicker this year?

    I think he's going to need the GK points to be at all useful (even then I'm not convinced)

    I think he will need GK points and also DPP to be worth a spot
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:34 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Ideally, you'd pick the perfect 21 players and you would have no need to trade for the first 6 weeks.

    There are trades you've got to make early, to grab any guys you missed who are making bulk cash. Obviously injuries as well.

    There are trades you shouldn't make early as well. Some fell into the trap last year of trading out keepers who started quietly, I remember people bailed on guys like Mahoney pretty quickly, etc (but at the same time someone has to fund trades). It's a long season, we fall into the trap of thinking a week at a time a lot. Some times you've just got to stick to your guns and remember why you bought someone originally (obviously every situation is different, if a guy isn't getting the role you thought, etc)..

    I had Ravalawa Edwards and Sivo round 1 hahaha guess who I offloaded first
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:34 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    Given Widdop has left, and their other back up options are Lafai/Hunt I'd say so

    I have been losing confidence in Lomax pick as well, but if he's available at CTR and plays FB, I'd probably still pick him
    What are your thoughts on Brimson?
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:34 pm

    - Moses Mbye is the early favourite to wear the number 9 vacated by Robbie Farah's retirement & Jacob Liddle's injury
    https://twitter.com/NBWT__/status/1216994213436391424?s=19
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:36 pm

    Rapture_NRL wrote:

    I had Ravalawa Edwards and Sivo round 1 hahaha guess who I offloaded first
    I’ll guess Sivo.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:40 pm

    WT2K wrote:- Moses Mbye is the early favourite to wear the number 9 vacated by Robbie Farah's retirement & Jacob Liddle's injury
    https://twitter.com/NBWT__/status/1216994213436391424?s=19
    Yes please so we can get Talau who surely would play at centre.

    How many minutes would Mbye get at hooker though? Could take him off after 50mins and bring Reynolds or a junior on?

    If he plays 60mins and puts a couple of long range kicks in then definitely fantasy relevant.

    Gonna be loads of hooker options that’s for sure.
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:43 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    What are your thoughts on Brimson?

    I was really keen on him before the draw came out but as mentioned by Iron Mike the early fixtures worry me a little. Does have quite good base stats though (averages 152m as 80 min FB, also included 77 min interchange game as he came on at FB)

    He's still high on my watchlist but it will depend on other options that I've considered and whether they get the role and/or price that is appealing as to whether I pick Brimson
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:55 pm

    robelgordo wrote:I’m enjoying reading all this and have a shortlist of players going in the back of my head, but I can’t seriously look at a full draft squad until Feb, probably late-Feb. You guys  are hardcore

    Mate I'm the same. I usually don't fill out a full squad until we've seen some serious trials and have a decent idea of who will fit in where, so yeah and of Feb.

    I generally start a side with the core, maybe 6 ot 7 guys I want to own as soon as it opens though.

    Might start the team tracker thread early this year to see how much the squad changes from initial thoughts to round 1.
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    Post by Honey Badger Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:00 pm

    Happy 2020 everyone. I thought there might be some activity on here! Dont they normally reveal player prices by now?
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    Post by Individual Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:02 pm

    Re talua/mbye talk.. would it be worth getting talua if mbye will take his place soon as liddle is back from injury?

    Or will he b in long enough to make decent cash

    EDIT  liddle won't b back till mid season so sounds like talua will b a great option
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:40 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Yes please so we can get Talau who surely would play at centre.

    How many minutes would Mbye get at hooker though? Could  take him off after 50mins and bring Reynolds or a junior on?

    If he plays 60mins and puts a couple of long range kicks in then definitely fantasy relevant.

    Gonna be loads of hooker options that’s for sure.

    Mbye 60 Reynolds/Walters 20 would be my guess

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