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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 3

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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:34 am

    my tv broke wrote:https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/01/31/there-is-no-bigger-game-james-on-fast-track-for-all-stars/

    interesting.

    Titans coach Justin Holbrook told NRL.com that he views James as essentially a middle forward who can play on the edge if required.

    "I spoke to Justin earlier in the year and I said to him that I see myself as a middle and if circumstances arise in a game where I have to push out to an edge I am comfortable to do so," James said.

    "We have enough edge players and guys that can play anywhere on the field like Peach [Tyrone Peachey] so I see myself as a middle and hopefully I can stay there."

    James also states the knee feels great, he is no longer thinking about it when training. The year off has the body feeling fresh.

    That would also suggest the Carty Party will get the left edge starting spot...
    If he just gets 50mins though is he gonna be worth it!

    He may score around 44 and that’s only 5 points better than his starting price!
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    Post by Iron Mike Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:35 am

    I guess I could go Cook and NPR to Friend and James, but then would have to make a decision on who to leave out of 17 each week.
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    Post by Iron Mike Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:37 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:My main reason for starting without Haas is I see him on the same tier as the other captaincy options

    Haas, Cook, Smith, McInnes, Taumalolo and Bateman are all going to average 60+ in non injury affected games, and are all going to score 55+ most weeks which is passable for a captain. I see Taumalolo with the highest ceiling(most damaging runner) and Smith with the highest floor(80 minute every week and touches the ball more than any player in the comp). You can basically pick any one of these guys as your captain and you are going to have a similar outcome over a 25 week season.

    The difference from last season is Haas didn't have his "floor" game like everyone else - Cook 29 backing up from Origin(average 64 without that game), McInnes injury affected 9(average 65 without that game), Taumalolo injury affect 17(average 64 without that game), Bateman injury affected 20(average 62 without that game), Smith 42 in one of his worst career games 7 missed tackles and a penalty(average 63 without that game)

    Personally I'm going with the guys that I like watching the most. At this stage that is just Cook however would also want to squeeze Bateman/Taumalolo in

    True re: captaincy options - however my main reason for starting with Hass is the points difference between the next best prop. Greatest difference between player 1 and 2 in any position.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:40 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    If he just gets 50mins though is he gonna be worth it!

    He may score around 44 and that’s only 5 points better than his starting price!

    Why would their best forward and captain suddenly receive less minutes? He has been playing 60 minutes as a middle since he became a starter in 2016
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:43 am

    Iron Mike wrote:

    True re: captaincy options - however my main reason for starting with Hass is the points difference between the next best prop. Greatest difference between player 1 and 2 in any position.

    Once everyone makes enough cash to start upgrading that argument absolutely makes sense. No doubt about it you want Haas in your final 17 because he is so far ahead of the next best prop. But to start the year positions are largely irrelevant. It doesn't matter if you get 65 at FRF and 30 at 2RF or if you get 65 at 2RF and 30 at FRF
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:43 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Why would their best forward and captain suddenly receive less minutes? He has been playing 60 minutes as a middle since he became a starter in 2016
    To ease his way back in after the ACL was my concern.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:44 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Once everyone makes enough cash to start upgrading that argument absolutely makes sense. No doubt about it you want Haas in your final 17 because he is so far ahead of the next best prop. But to start the year positions are largely irrelevant. It doesn't matter if you get 65 at FRF and 30 at 2RF or if you get 65 at 2RF and 30 at FRF
    So you’ll have James at prop, who will be your other prop?
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:44 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Why would their best forward and captain suddenly receive less minutes? He has been playing 60 minutes as a middle since he became a starter in 2016

    The make up of their bench will be interesting, always hard to tell with a new coach.. at a guess:

    James Peats Wallace
    Proctor Cartwright
    Arrow

    Mofo Boyd + two of Hipgrave/Whitbread/Peachey/Rein ?

    Do they play two hookers, and if so how does Peachey fit in, etc.

    They have a pretty strong middle if Arrow stays and Boyd returns to some form. Boyd probably better in shorter minutes though.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:46 am

    my tv broke wrote:The Courier Mail has a 'lurker' style bit about the Broncos and Jo Ofa, the Broncos reportedly pretty pissed off about getting caught for an alcohol related offense (again). It suggests they may suspend him for round 1 and will come back via the bench.

    Looking good for Carrigan at this stage.
    Wouldn’t it be this though:

    11. Glenn
    12. Fifita
    13. TPJ

    ??
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:46 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    So you’ll have James at prop, who will be your other prop?

    Not sure yet
    At this stage my starting props will likely be 2 from James, Merrin, Knight, Mofo, Woods, Hamlin-Uele
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    Post by 13CokeHeads Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:47 am

    Iron Mike wrote:I guess I could go Cook and NPR to Friend and James, but then would have to make a decision on who to leave out of 17 each week.

    Yea im having that problem with too many mid rangers. I reckon 4 guns to start is a good balance... The thing is the 4 nprs arent really that obvious yet Luai magulious and perhaps Mann so far...
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:47 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Wouldn’t it be this though:

    11. Glenn
    12. Fifita
    13. TPJ

    ??

    Pangai's comments yesterday suggest he will be playing edge, but time will tell.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:49 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Pangai's comments yesterday suggest he will be playing edge.

    These comments have made me go cold on Fifita. Glenn as captain will get bulk minutes every week. I'd love to find the 200k to upgrade Fifita to Bateman/Taumalolo
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:49 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    The make up of their bench will be interesting, always hard to tell with a new coach.. at a guess:

    James Peats Wallace
    Proctor Cartwright
    Arrow

    Mofo Boyd + two of Hipgrave/Whitbread/Peachey/Rein ?

    Do they play two hookers, and if so how does Peachey fit in, etc.

    They have a pretty strong middle if Arrow stays and Boyd returns to some form. Boyd probably better in shorter minutes though.

    I suspect they'll have Rein n the bench. Peats will play a bit of lock while Rein is on the field.

    Shannon Boyd has been chief recipient of "training down the house" articles, not that I am interested in him for fantasy.
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    Post by robelgordo Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:50 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    The make up of their bench will be interesting, always hard to tell with a new coach.. at a guess:

    James Peats Wallace
    Proctor Cartwright
    Arrow

    Mofo Boyd + two of Hipgrave/Whitbread/Peachey/Rein ?

    Do they play two hookers, and if so how does Peachey fit in, etc.

    They have a pretty strong middle if Arrow stays and Boyd returns to some form. Boyd probably better in shorter minutes though.

    Aside from the Carty Party, anyone tempted by Peats if he's guaranteed 80?
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:51 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    Pangai's comments yesterday suggest he will be playing edge, but time will tell.
    That may be bad for Fifita then?
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:52 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Not sure yet
    At this stage my starting props will likely be 2 from James, Merrin, Knight, Mofo, Woods, Hamlin-Uele

    I had a look at these guys last night (except Mofo who is currently injured)

    Woods doesn't have a lot of upside to me. Hamlin-Uele looks the better choice, although I don't think I am super keen on either.

    Provided I am happy with his fitness returning from injury, Ryan James is in my side. Not sure who the 2nd prop will be yet.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:53 am

    robelgordo wrote:

    Aside from the Carty Party, anyone tempted by Peats if he's guaranteed 80?

    Peats is too injury prone for my liking.
    Rather let Rein drop price on the bench, and then join the Rein train when Peats goes down
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    Post by 13CokeHeads Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:53 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    The make up of their bench will be interesting, always hard to tell with a new coach.. at a guess:

    James Peats Wallace
    Proctor Cartwright
    Arrow

    Mofo Boyd + two of Hipgrave/Whitbread/Peachey/Rein ?

    Do they play two hookers, and if so how does Peachey fit in, etc.

    They have a pretty strong middle if Arrow stays and Boyd returns to some form. Boyd probably better in shorter minutes though.


    It would be criminal to leave rein out. He has been their best for the last 2 seasons. Perhaps when arrow has a spell peats could move to lock. This means peachy would be used on an edge nost likely for carty. So no hipgrave on the bench as he is an edge.

    James Peats Wallace
    Proctor Carty
    Arrow

    Rein
    Mofo
    Boyd
    Whitbread

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    Post by robelgordo Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:54 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Once everyone makes enough cash to start upgrading that argument absolutely makes sense. No doubt about it you want Haas in your final 17 because he is so far ahead of the next best prop. But to start the year positions are largely irrelevant. It doesn't matter if you get 65 at FRF and 30 at 2RF or if you get 65 at 2RF and 30 at FRF

    I'm coming around to this and possibly ditching Haas. But its dependent on having confidence in two other FRFs. I want 2 I can trust to make good cash, I don't think I'm there yet.

    I think McInnes and Lolo have better value and play R12, but there seems more depth and less selection headaches at HOK/2RF.

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