NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 8

Khany wrote:Green knows Morgan doesn't llke halfback.

What if he plays C. That would make the backline look a little more established

Hi everyone, long time between posts.
Regarding Hass, for people who don’t start with him, how and when do you get him back in? say he starts 50 3 round average and drops down to 900k, is he no longer a gun and you look elsewhere for a FR. Or do you back him to go back to 60+ scores? Who do you upgrade? Is it only for those who start with 300/400k in the bank hoping for a 3 game low average to get him in round 3/4 for a 100-150k saving, even still it’s an upgrade on a Mid-ranger who might be pumping out decent scores? Any mid who is is probably a trade out before you can get Hass in?

Tl:dr, Bennett has killed Cook. https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/02/24/talking-about-an-evolution-why-cook-wont-overplay-his-hand/

Rabbits21 wrote:
But if Drinkwater is the 6 for round 1 would he be more likely to goal kick?

I think he would as Marsters is ordinary.

His kick percentage in 2018 was 75%. Apparently he was carrying a leg/foot injury last year which brought his percentage down to 65%. If he's healthy, 75% is better than ordinary

rhinoceroo wrote:

Worth a shot with everyone's side looking the same. Would veer to the absolutely highest ceiling PODs, eg. SJ,, Kikau, Mitchell, Ted.

I reckon Mitchell will lose 100k probably more before he finds his true average

WT2K wrote:

Marsters 75% 2018 65% 2019

Beat me to it lol but yeah I read he was carrying a niggly injury

filthridden wrote:

Can't see it happening.
He would command a fair bit of coin already. Are the Storm or Roosters going to shell out big money for someone who's never played the game before? Doubtful.
If he did (and I doubt he will do in his prime) make the switch, it'd be with a club willing to take a punt like the Titans, or maybe the Bombers (please change the name) when they enter the comp as a publicity thing.

Much more likely he plays some union in Japan or France because that's where he'll see the most coin but I expect he'll be playing for the ABs through til the next world cup.

Hey Filth,

I have no inside info into this, but I suspect that part of this is a play to get more money at this next contract. Im with you, I dont see this happening next year, but I do see it as a longer term possibility - in the full interview he says its something he'd like to do, and could happen as early as net year. Also, take the Storm/Roosters comment with a grain of salt, its like kids saying they wanna play for the Lajkers or Man United. At the end of the day if he really wants to play League and fulfil a dream he will go where ever he has to I think.

All that said, I think he could be a very good league player if he gave himself a good 5 years of his prime.

Rabbits21 wrote:
Bugger.

Don’t think he will be in my team then unless he goes really well this coming weekend.

Hope this comes across helpful as opposed to a jab - but this is one of the biggest mistakes you can make, choosing a player because of a big scoring trial game.

Milchcow wrote:Hey everyone

Just a friendly reminder that we don't actively encourage constant posting of team iterations in this thread.

If you want feedback in your team, please use the Assistant Coach forum - https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/f11-assistant-coach


Keep in mind that if you post a team consisting entirely of players that everyone else is picking, there is probably not much of value that is going to be added (whether you post in this thread or the coach forum) - and you can just assume everyone approves of your team
If you want feedback it is probably more worthwhile to ask specifically about the couple of players that are causing you the most problems about selecting (and its fine to ask that sort of question in here)

edit: sorry Cokehead for posting this just after your team post. Wasn't directed at you personally, just there has been a rise in people posting teams that are all pretty similar over the past few pages, and as much as we love increasing the post count, we want to remove a bit of the clutter

Thanks mate, outside of a few key posters, when I see ANOTHER team named by pretty, often by the same 10 people I just skip them. Would be nice if they could keep them in their own thread....

NQcrushers wrote:Hi everyone, long time between posts.
Regarding Hass, for people who don’t start with him, how and when do you get him back in? say he starts 50 3 round average and drops down to 900k, is he no longer a gun and you look elsewhere for a FR. Or do you back him to go back to 60+ scores? Who do you upgrade? Is it only for those who start with 300/400k in the bank hoping for a 3 game low average to get him in round 3/4 for a 100-150k saving, even still it’s an upgrade on a Mid-ranger who might be pumping out decent scores? Any mid who is is probably a trade out before you can get Hass in?

Gidday mate, firstly if Haas pumps out 3 50s to start the year there is no doubt in my mind he is a gun you want in your team.

But in response to the main point of your post, how do you find a way to get such a high priced gut into your team after 3 rounds or so?, I think thats a fair question. Trouble is we cant predict what will happen to the 21 guys you (or anyone) starts with, BUT inevitably you dont get all 21 right, and so you will be trading, often 2 trades a week, for the first 4-5 weeks. I think if Haas has a big fail in the first couple weeks, you will probably be able to find a way to trade him in over a 3-4 week period...but as you suggest, and as I posted several weeks ago, you may well have to sacrifice to get him. The obvious way he will easily fit into most teams in the early rounds in due to an injury to another of your 21 and when you have 21 guys in your team, its pretty likely at least one will come a cropper.

TLDR: I think it's risky to not start with Haas - could be a lot of sacrifices needed just to get him into your team, and all for perhaps $100 to $150k saving? For me its not worth it. Start him & bank the Captains points.

A) Brimson and Raimen

B) TTurbo and Shibasaki

churg wrote:Howdy all.
What's everyone's thoughts regarding starting a POD heavy side with a splash of cheapies?
Players like JFH, Munster,SJ, Smith, Hunt.

This is the first time I've seen someone mention Munster so I'll give my reason for avoiding him

In 4 games with Papenhuyzen at fullback Munster averaged 43.2 fantasy points compared to season average of 52.3

The stats are also backed up by the eye test. Once Papenhuyzen became fullback Melbourne started structuring their attack differently. Instead of being heavily reliant on the block play that would get Munster one on one with a poor defender on the left edge, Melbourne seemed to use him as more of a decoy with Papy getting the ball back through the middle. This involves lots of tip ons back through the inside from Munster/whoever is one off the ruck that set or even a cut out pass from hooker.

Shape A is the structure that used to be run pre Papy. Shape B is post Papy

A:



B:



tl;dr Munster was used more as a play maker than ball runner after Papy made his debut. Will this continue?

I don't have Haas (as is stands anyway), I'd be cheering if he starts with three 50s. It would be a massive failure for the price you are paying for him. If he does start with 3 sub 60 scores you wouldn't even need to rush to bring him in, you'd have a couple of weeks to plan before hi sprice started going up again.
Having him score 70+ first 3 weeks is the worry, then he'll have cracked the million and it will be quite hard to find the funds.


Conversely though, how does someone who starts with Haas bring in Taumalolo/Tedesco/Cleary/whatever gun if they start with a couple of big scores?

Looking forward to some more realistic teamlists today.

People make a deal about Haas never having gone below 50.

But besides an early injury game, Taumalolo only went below 50 twice last year, and they were both in the last month when the Cowboys were out of contention, and were his 2 lowest minute efforts of the season.

Unlike Haas, Taumaolo is priced below his average (even including the injury game he averaged 61.7 and his priced at 60)
I am more concerned about running without Lolo than running without Haas

On Cowboys kicking, here is an interview with Marsters
https://www.cowboys.com.au/news/2020/02/11/marsters-on-goal-kicking-test-footy-in-townsville-and-his-new-colours/

skip to the last bit and he mentions that Holmes, Feldt and Clifford as other potential kickers and he expects them to get first shot.

I assume Holmes will kick as first choice (unless he forgot how to kick from his time in the NFL)

Milchcow wrote:
People make a deal about Haas never having gone below 50.

But besides an early injury game, Taumalolo only went below 50 twice last year, and they were both in the last month when the Cowboys were out of contention, and were his 2 lowest minute efforts of the season.

Unlike Haas, Taumaolo is priced below his average (even including the injury game he averaged 61.7 and his priced at 60)
I am more concerned about running without Lolo than running without Haas

Taumalolo has been locked into my team since I checked the stats. I think he can match Haas for significantly less

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

Taumalolo has been locked into my team since I checked the stats. I think he can match Haas for significantly less

If I end up with Haas it will be alongside Lolo, not instead of him, which basically means killing CTR and maybe lose another gun. If looks like enough cheapies to make it viable might run it

Didn't Taumalolo play 80 mins a bunch of times to carry the Cowboys on his back? Will he have a bit more support of those around him this season and play less minutes?
(just playing Devil's advocate here )

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

This is the first time I've seen someone mention Munster so I'll give my reason for avoiding him

In 4 games with Papenhuyzen at fullback Munster averaged 43.2 fantasy points compared to season average of 52.3

The stats are also backed up by the eye test. Once Papenhuyzen became fullback Melbourne started structuring their attack differently. Instead of being heavily reliant on the block play that would get Munster one on one with a poor defender on the left edge, Melbourne seemed to use him as more of a decoy with Papy getting the ball back through the middle. This involves lots of tip ons back through the inside from Munster/whoever is one off the ruck that set or even a cut out pass from hooker.

Shape A is the structure that used to be run pre Papy. Shape B is post Papy

A:



B:



tl;dr Munster was used more as a play maker than ball runner after Papy made his debut. Will this continue?

Post of the day, great insight