NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 30 - Roosters destroy the Broncos

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Haas just keeps going! Still not convinced the logic of not starting Haas was wrong, just the timing with the entire Broncos pack being out injured or suspended. Even after putting up a few monsters to start the year he is still only averaging 3 above his starting price, let's pump the brakes. Worth noting he got benched straight after missing a one on on tackle on Liu up the middle that lead to a try. Seibold has clearly seen it's better for the team to give Haas a spell and bring him back fresh at the end of the game

I'm not 100% convinced Haas was pulled for the MT, although it probably contributed. He only missed one tackle out of 53, albeit a critical one. Everyone bar Oates missed 1 or more tackles. I think it was possibly a case of not wanting to destroy him for no reason in a heavy loss - and give some others some time in the middle. Think it was Ponga Yeo The Mann (apologies if wrong) who said he wasn't all that impressed with Payne's game and I kind of agree - it was like he was told to conserve himself in attack. He did a mountain of defence every set but even when we finally had the ball he didn't take a hit up in multiple sets early on. Took a few crabbing runs late. I remember last year same thing happened and I think maybe it's a direction from Seibs. Not sure why you wouldn't take a few charges through the middle with such a large human but he is only 20 and it is easy to forget that. Props don't usually hit their peak until mid 20's.

With regards to Milford - it's not just his lack of input (which is hard without the ball but he could at least have some kind of crack), but the stupid penalties, six again's and slow play the balls he continues with. He gave away a 5th tackle six again early in the game when momentum was critical, then the penalty on our line, and whenever he gets tackled he carries on and won't play the ball. Needs a kick up the ass.

my tv broke wrote:

He's playing out of position too, he's been a lock for the last couple of years at redcliffe. He's basically 6th string option with Palasia and Riki also injured.

Hes drifting into the middle a fair bit, he’s the least of your team worries mate, he’s bare minimum giving everything he has

Rapture_NRL wrote:

If I had Lomax I'd definitely be keeping him

No way I am selling him. I am just contemplating who scores more

Lomax + Crichton

Crichton + Luai

Lomax + Luai

AL wrote:

I'm not 100% convinced Haas was pulled for the MT, although it probably contributed. He only missed one tackle out of 53, albeit a critical one. Everyone bar Oates missed 1 or more tackles. I think it was possibly a case of not wanting to destroy him for no reason in a heavy loss - and give some others some time in the middle. Think it was Ponga Yeo The Mann (apologies if wrong) who said he wasn't all that impressed with Payne's game and I kind of agree - it was like he was told to conserve himself in attack. He did a mountain of defence every set but even when we finally had the ball he didn't take a hit up in multiple sets early on. Took a few crabbing runs late. I remember last year same thing happened and I think maybe it's a direction from Seibs. Not sure why you wouldn't take a few charges through the middle with such a large human but he is only 20 and it is easy to forget that. Props don't usually hit their peak until mid 20's.

With regards to Milford - it's not just his lack of input (which is hard without the ball but he could at least have some kind of crack), but the stupid penalties, six again's and slow play the balls he continues with. He gave away a 5th tackle six again early in the game when momentum was critical, then the penalty on our line, and whenever he gets tackled he carries on and won't play the ball. Needs a kick up the ass.

What I hate about Milf is his tackling, shirt grabber he’s infuriating. Was watching game with my boy and he was laughing at his technique. I told him he’s a quality player or at least was and he just shrugged and said can’t be, can’t even do the basics he’ll never be that good. He’s right

AL wrote:I remember last year same thing happened and I think maybe it's a direction from Seibs. Not sure why you wouldn't take a few charges through the middle with such a large human but he is only 20 and it is easy to forget that. Props don't usually hit their peak until mid 20's.

I remember early last season he would take two big hit ups per set early on in the game.

This season with the bigger mins he seems to be trying to conserve a bit more.

Lodge lackign fitness is not helping, nor is Ofa, who really should be a capable starter by now, but continues to offer up nothing.

AL wrote:

I'm not 100% convinced Haas was pulled for the MT, although it probably contributed. He only missed one tackle out of 53, albeit a critical one. Everyone bar Oates missed 1 or more tackles. I think it was possibly a case of not wanting to destroy him for no reason in a heavy loss - and give some others some time in the middle. Think it was Ponga Yeo The Mann (apologies if wrong) who said he wasn't all that impressed with Payne's game and I kind of agree - it was like he was told to conserve himself in attack. He did a mountain of defence every set but even when we finally had the ball he didn't take a hit up in multiple sets early on. Took a few crabbing runs late. I remember last year same thing happened and I think maybe it's a direction from Seibs. Not sure why you wouldn't take a few charges through the middle with such a large human but he is only 20 and it is easy to forget that. Props don't usually hit their peak until mid 20's.

With regards to Milford - it's not just his lack of input (which is hard without the ball but he could at least have some kind of crack), but the stupid penalties, six again's and slow play the balls he continues with. He gave away a 5th tackle six again early in the game when momentum was critical, then the penalty on our line, and whenever he gets tackled he carries on and won't play the ball. Needs a kick up the ass.

This sort of shit really infuriates teammates as well. His team would have been filthy for making them defend a whole nother set. The slow play the balls fuck of the hooker and halves because they have their next play set and ready to go but the play normally unfolds because the defence is set and stops it.

my tv broke wrote:

I remember early last season he would take two big hit ups per set early on in the game.

This season with the bigger mins he seems to be trying to conserve a bit more.

Lodge lackign fitness is not helping, nor is Ofa, who really should be a capable starter by now, but continues to offer up nothing.

Flegler had a shocker too

Last bench spot

TU: Kennedy
TD: Fogarty

Thanks in advance

Fantasy wise, both Lodge and Milford are going to drop bulk cash. Lodge averaged 50 as a starting prop last year with no scores under 40 after round 10

mattnz wrote:
Flegler had a shocker too

Probably Flegler's worst performance in first grade but I can excuse him because he's young. I was more talking about the two more experienced forwards. Ofa has been playing first grade for 5 years now and has barely improved. He's our most experienced middle by a long way and offers the least.

Daedalus wrote:Last bench spot

TU: Kennedy
TD: Fogarty

Thanks in advance

I've got same decision and going with Kennedy

my tv broke wrote:

I remember early last season he would take two big hit ups per set early on in the game.

This season with the bigger mins he seems to be trying to conserve a bit more.

Lodge lackign fitness is not helping, nor is Ofa, who really should be a capable starter by now, but continues to offer up nothing.

I guess that's probably my point with Haas, he seems to be operating on Coaches instructions and maybe Seibs identified last season he was doing too much work and needed him on the paddock - so told him to take it a bit easier. He is tireless in defence though, at one point last night he cleaned up a semi-break left sideline then came across in cover to clean up on the right side immediately after. And still didn't look gassed. He is a super human.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Fantasy wise, both Lodge and Milford are going to drop bulk cash. Lodge averaged 50 as a starting prop last year with no scores under 40 after round 10

I'm not sure Lodge will be able to keep up with the new rule changes. I hope for our sake he can though.

I'd back Burleigh Bears to roll last night's Broncos

Looks like I'm picking up Paix next week, not sure who I'm going to drop though.

AL wrote:

I guess that's probably my point with Haas, he seems to be operating on Coaches instructions and maybe Seibs identified last season he was doing too much work and needed him on the paddock - so told him to take it a bit easier. He is tireless in defence though, at one point last night he cleaned up a semi-break left sideline then came across in cover to clean up on the right side immediately after. And still didn't look gassed. He is a super human.

I was thinking to myself this morning. How the fuck does a bloke that big just have so much fitness. He must have been a marathon runner as a child... or he just used to run laps and laps. He is easy 110 kegs and picks himself up of the ground with ease.

Khany wrote:I'd back Burleigh Bears to roll last night's Broncos

Didn't it come out that the Titans seconds team beat them in a trial match before the game last week or something?

EDIT: Actually I think it was the Dragons.

EDIT EDIT: Here it is

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/dragons/nrl-2020-st-george-illawarra-dragons-paul-mcgregor-training-session-ben-hunt-corey-norman/news-story/68322113628c81807be75c91a6f17893

Paul Vaughan, Cameron McInnes with a halves pairing of Ben Hunt and Corey Norman were beaten by three tries against a rag-tag B team boasting Adam Clune and Jack de Belin as the halves.
Also says Sims was instrumental in the B-Side win... hence being elevated to the starting side for the Warriors game.

StormTrooper96 wrote:

I was thinking to myself this morning. How the fuck does a bloke that big just have so much fitness. He must have been a marathon runner as a child... or he just used to run laps and laps. He is easy 110 kegs and picks himself up of the ground with ease.

I have a perfectly reasonable theory.

Payne Haas’s inhuman good looks and inhuman physical ability are linked by his upbringing in inhuman conditions on Neptune. Training under Neptunian surface gravity of over 11m/s2, his vast bulk generated a super-saiyan powerful respiratory and circulatory system that, when released on puny 8.8m/s2-training earthlings, enables really good fantasy scoring.

tl;dr: shame he’s a cockroach.

StormTrooper96 wrote:What's everyone expecting from Luai tonight?

looping between him and Wiliame, hopefully a decent score

L-Jimmy wrote:

I have a perfectly reasonable theory.

Payne Haas’s inhuman good looks and inhuman physical ability are linked by his upbringing in inhuman conditions on Neptune. Training under Neptunian surface gravity of over 11m/s2, his vast bulk generated a super-saiyan powerful respiratory and circulatory system that, when released on puny 8.8m/s2-training earthlings, enables really good fantasy scoring.

tl;dr: shame he’s a cockroach.

So you're saying he is pretty much training on North Kai's planet with Goku and he would probably push Goku to his limits? Some might even say he can beat Beerus in a fight?

Or he spent most of his childhood training in a hyperbolic time chamber, thus, when he would train for one whole year in the chamber it only equated to 1 day of real time.