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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:38 pm

    For those thinking of giving up this is how the top 9 lines up with red dots. The asterisk denotes also having Teddy who could be an additional late out.
    7 *
    5*
    6*
    4
    6*
    5*
    4*
    7*
    6*
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:39 pm

    Boozecluez wrote:Guess this week is a win for the people who built depth and cleared out the red dots.
    You never know when a week like this will happen

    The loopers running a couple of NPR's would be hurting too or anyone who gambled hard to bring in keepers early with questionable cash outs. Throw in some bad luck and you have this apocalypse

    The sword cuts both ways when deciding to hold or sell the likes of Williame,Kennedy etc
    Sometimes they return a few weeks later and you kick yourself for not keeping (Shibasaki,Wakeham) but given the size of the bench it is always risky

    Down 5 players but Twal + a decent bank should let me plug the gaps.
    Have to sit down and think with next week trades in mind too (as it may be better to go 4 middies now for depth vs 2 guns + 2 cows)

    Definitely interesting and given how similar teams, no byes and how tight the overall ladder is, this week will definitely shake things up


    Honestly think with the Tolman and Best examples lately coupled with standard injuries and suspensions we are going to see quite a few weeks like this during the season. Trades going to be an absolute premium and cover in all positions essential
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:41 pm

    Andy V wrote:For those thinking of giving up this is how the top 9 lines up with red dots. The asterisk denotes also having Teddy who could be an additional late out.
    7 *
    5*
    6*
    4
    6*
    5*
    4*
    7*
    6*
    Love this sort of work mate! I hate the doomsayers moaning about rank and the giving up mid season, so annoying! Just dig in. Always a chance, maybe not to win but to finish as high as possible as always.
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    Post by Revraiser Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:43 pm

    Andy V wrote:For those thinking of giving up this is how the top 9 lines up with red dots. The asterisk denotes also having Teddy who could be an additional late out.
    7 *
    5*
    6*
    4
    6*
    5*
    4*
    7*
    6*

    Nice bit of perspective mate, cheers. Its time to rumble!
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    Post by mattnz Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:45 pm

    6 red dots this week after trading out 2 of them last week.

    Can field a team of 17 and give myself some flexibility for any future rounds like this with:
    Twal > SMat for my 3rd 2RF this week, then becomes CTR next week
    Kennedy > Ponga

    Means I have 4 of my back 5 set, bringing in 2 keepers this week, with Mitchell as WFB3, just Teddy to bring in.

    Get 3 players back next week fortunately, assuming Katoa is just 1 week out.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:47 pm

    If teddy is out then 7/9 need to double trade to field a team. 4th place has it nice about now...

    (also a humblebrag I'm in 10th had ulterior motives in looking this up, have 5 dots and no Teddy so him being rested would be my personal preference )


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    Post by Shady2K Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:47 pm

    rhino wrote:Munster a good captain choice this week? 68 points last week (with the help of 2 TA) in a losing side, surely a chance he crosses against the Warriors. Or do I play it safe and captain Haas?

    Not a captain choice but strongly considering bringing in Munster this week.

    Matto also appealing as 2rf gun but Fifita and Tevaga coming back later may be better options at a lower price point
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:48 pm

    Andy V wrote:If teddy is out then 8/9 need to double trade to field a team. 4th place has it nice about now...

    (also a humblebrag I'm in 10th had ulterior motives in looking this up, have 5 dots and no Teddy so him being rested would be my personal preference )
    Go on mate!
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    Post by Mr peanutbutter Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:50 pm

    My team is holding together but def rough this week.

    Trades
    Turbo to Fotuaika
    Paix to Averillo

    344k itb

    Korosau
    Haas(c), Fotuaika
    Yeo, Su'A, Leilua
    Moses, Fogarty
    Fuimaono, Averillo
    Ponga, Drink, Pappy

    Grant, Brailey, Rudolph, Luai/HTF
    Luai/HTF, Best, Carrigan, E.Katoa
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    Post by Revraiser Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:50 pm

    Andy V wrote:If teddy is out then 7/9 need to double trade to field a team. 4th place has it nice about now...

    (also a humblebrag I'm in 10th had ulterior motives in looking this up, have 5 dots and no Teddy so him being rested would be my personal preference )

    Yes this is awesome, love seeing us do well. Think it through!


    Is Herbie dpp tomorrow or is it unknown ?
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:53 pm

    Can someone who pays closer attention to the Knights please explain SMat? Is this high 40s average a blip or are they playing a different way that makes it sustainable?

    Katoa out has me considering mid-range - SMat fairly palatable because of ability of CTR shift next week when Carrigan is back and I assume Katoa back too
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    Post by Welshy Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:53 pm

    Need to pivot to a 2RF gun with the Katoa news so no DCE/Cook this week. Is Carrigan a 1 or 2 week suspension?
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    Post by mattnz Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:56 pm

    What do peoples playing 17s (or less if appropriate) look like this week?

    Mine is:
    Api
    Haas (C) Mofo
    Yeo Hess SMat
    Moses Cleary
    Mitchell SCrit
    Ponga Drinkwater HTF

    Grant Robson Rudolf Kerr
    On holiday - Best Katoa Carrigan Wiliame
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    Post by Donkeyyyyyy Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:59 pm

    robelgordo wrote:Can someone who pays closer attention to the Knights please explain SMat? Is this high 40s average a blip or are they playing a different way that makes it sustainable?

    Katoa out has me considering mid-range - SMat fairly palatable because of ability of CTR shift next week when Carrigan is back and I assume Katoa back too
    playing in a better team but a history of failed HIA's
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:59 pm

    robelgordo wrote:Can someone who pays closer attention to the Knights please explain SMat? Is this high 40s average a blip or are they playing a different way that makes it sustainable?

    Katoa out has me considering mid-range - SMat fairly palatable because of ability of CTR shift next week when Carrigan is back and I assume Katoa back too

    Last year he averaged 29 at 2RF (8 games, 75 minutes)
    2018, 1 game, 23 points, 74 minutes
    2017, 20 games, 36 points, 72 minutes
    2016, 4 games, 42 points, 80.5 minutes
    2015, 1 game, 23 points, 80 minutes


    His problems in the past have been getting shifted to centre (probably not an issue) and frequent HIAs (possibly still an issue)
    His current scoring his above his previous average - this could be sustainable to some degree given the new rules/style of play

    Many on this site have been burned by him in the past and are thus wary of him, but if he stays injury free he's probably a good bet
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    Post by Shady2K Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:00 pm

    Mr peanutbutter wrote:My team is holding together but def rough this week.

    Trades
    Turbo to Fotuaika
    Paix to Averillo

    344k itb

    Korosau
    Haas(c), Fotuaika
    Yeo, Su'A, Leilua
    Moses, Fogarty
    Fuimaono, Averillo
    Ponga, Drink, Pappy

    Grant, Brailey, Rudolph, Luai/HTF
    Luai/HTF, Best, Carrigan, E.Katoa

    Thoughts on Averillo v Talau?
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    Post by mattnz Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:01 pm

    robelgordo wrote:Can someone who pays closer attention to the Knights please explain SMat? Is this high 40s average a blip or are they playing a different way that makes it sustainable?

    Katoa out has me considering mid-range - SMat fairly palatable because of ability of CTR shift next week when Carrigan is back and I assume Katoa back too
    Making more tackles and missing less tackles. Knights had the advantage in possession last week, but still put up big tackle numbers, 44 with 2 misses.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:02 pm

    Macca
    Haas (c probably) Rudolf
    Fui Yeo SMat
    Moses Munster
    Crichton Willaime (l**p)
    Ponga Nofo Lomax

    McInnes Koro Flano Grant
    then HTF and Niu on loop.


    Have max traded including this round with next rounds 2 lined up. going all out
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    Post by rhino Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:03 pm

    Andy V wrote:For those thinking of giving up this is how the top 9 lines up with red dots. The asterisk denotes also having Teddy who could be an additional late out.
    7 *
    5*
    6*
    4
    6*
    5*
    4*
    7*
    6*

    Yeah had a bit of a look myself, 5 of the top 20 can only play 16 players (this is with the assumption that Teddy is playing so there is a chance that more teams will field under 17). It makes me excited for the week ahead knowing I should be able to jump some ranks from 266 with a full 17.


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    Post by robelgordo Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:04 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    Last year he averaged 29 at 2RF (8 games, 75 minutes)
    2018, 1 game, 23 points, 74 minutes
    2017, 20 games, 36 points, 72 minutes
    2016, 4 games, 42 points, 80.5 minutes
    2015, 1 game, 23 points, 80 minutes


    His problems in the past have been getting shifted to centre (probably not an issue) and frequent HIAs (possibly still an issue)
    His current scoring his above his previous average - this could be sustainable to some degree given the new rules/style of play

    Many on this site have been burned by him  in the past and are thus wary of him, but if he stays injury free he's probably a good bet

    I’d take 2016:17 averages going forward. HIA a concern, but doesn’t scare many off Matterson

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