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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 47 - At Least Scott Drinkwater didn't go large again

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    Post by my tv broke Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:54 am

    Chris Garry says Boyd with rehab group looking unlikely to be fit.

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    Post by my tv broke Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:55 am

    Chris Garry
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    DARIUS WATCH!!! he’s doing some training now. It’s all very strange.


    He says Oates training with reserves.

    UPDATE:

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    Line out of Broncos is that Boyd is being “freshened up” that’s why he didn’t take part in start of session. Now back training at left centre with Isaako outside him.


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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:57 am

    Great post milchcow
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    Post by hymenbustas Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:10 am

    What a g up, Boyd back to training in centers inside Issako lol

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    Post by Loomer Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:10 am

    my tv broke wrote:Chris Garry
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    DARIUS WATCH!!! he’s doing some training now. It’s all very strange.


    He says Oates training with reserves.

    UPDATE:

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    Line out of Broncos is that Boyd is being “freshened up” that’s why he didn’t take part in start of session. Now back training at left centre with Isaako outside him.

    BOOOOOO!!!
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    Post by Empyreal Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:37 am

    my tv broke wrote:Chris Garry
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    DARIUS WATCH!!! he’s doing some training now. It’s all very strange.


    He says Oates training with reserves.

    UPDATE:

    Adam Jackson
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    Line out of Broncos is that Boyd is being “freshened up” that’s why he didn’t take part in start of session. Now back training at left centre with Isaako outside him.

    Boyd's been resting up all season you would think he wouldn't need anymore
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    Post by Snatchpato Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:39 am

    long quote:
    Hey mate thanks so much for the effort you put into replying. I was very unsure of whether I should have been trading the non-players, but what you say makes sense. I think I'll consider JWH and Mansour as keepers at this point, partially because I'm in such bad shape at this point, and partially because I've been ravaged by injuries the last few weeks and now have PTSD about trading healthy players lol. I'll definitely consider upgrading them later should I get some nice luck re: injuries.

    Yep Sironen and Stone have been god awful (excluding this week), but for me at least they've been actually playing, and fielding 17 players has been my biggest issue the last few weeks (e.g. picking up Erin Clark for round 6 only for him to be dropped in round 7 D'oh!).

    Will Hopoate, injured, is unfortunately the Hopo. Happily trading him out given he's out 6-8 weeks, and downgrading to Niu (given TLT) should free up ~450k.

    With that cash, would it be wiser to upgrade some midrange players (Lowe/JTB to RFM as an example) or to use that cash to upgrade Nikorima to DCE/Cleary which would leave me with 188k/107k? I know you mentioned that I shouldn't be looking to upgrade to the monsters (Lolo, Haas, etc) however Nikorima has been exceptionally poor for me given his price, and I'd love to have a reliable gun for some consistency. It does leave me with little cash, and no genuine money makers unless Averillo/Niu go big in the next couple of weeks, which will make upgrades harder down the line. Decisions decisions...

    Edit: Oh also I've been chucking the C on Grant or Matto, which has been great lately, and I can only pray those guns keep firing.
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    Post by Nathanator000 Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:50 am

    Is it crazy to not make trades this week? (Only got 12 left and 29k ITB)

    Grant
    Haas JTB
    Carrigan Yeo JTurbo
    Cleary Luai
    S.Mat Lomax
    Teddy Mitchell Papy

    Koro Macca Rudolf S.Crichton
    HTF Moses Paix Williame

    Could go Rudolf to Niu, but that means i would have to play Niu or HTF Sad

    Alternatively could go Rudolf to Talau, but doesn't give me too much cash.

    Any thoughts?

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    Post by The Bludger Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:53 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Hi Snatch, and welcome to the forum

    One issue with your team - one is that you don't have a reliable captaincy option. You'll notice every other team here has a at least 1 of Haas, Taumalolo, McInnes as the top 3 reliable captaincy options. You are also missing other possible contenders Cook and Cam Smith as well as the top backs Tedesco, Ponga and the top halves DCE/Cleary/Moses.
    Guys like Jurbo, Flangan are OK but they need some better team mates

    If we look at improving your team for the rest of the year, trades remaining is the biggest killer. This is a problem for almost everyone, but with only 12 trades there is really not a lot of wriggle room to get your team going.
    Nethertheless, lets have a try.

    12 trades and 21 man squad mean that there are 9 players in your team that are guaranteed to stay there all year. And if anyone you trade in gets traded out again later, then thats another player that has to stay

    For a start , anyone averaging over 50 (or 45 for a back) gets to stay
    Grant, Papalii, Jurbo, Matterson, Flanagan, Latrell, Papenhuyzen, Best, McCullough

    You'd better hope those 9 players stay fit - because you don't want to have to trade any of them all year, but lets allocate 1 trade as a spare to replace any of them if they go down (obviously 1 trade is not a lot for this sort of thing, but you are far from alone being in this position)

    Secondly, Starlign and Kepaoa might as well stay too. You don't have trades to stuff around with too many cash cows and you generate no cash by downgrading them. Keep them in your team, learn how to loophole.

    Averillo can stay for now. He's not the best option, but not the worst, and for his price he is OK. If you pick up a better WFB you can play Best in CTR with Latrell and Averillo can stay in emergencies and not score for you unless you have someone injured anyway.

    JWH and Mansour are on the edge of keeperville. The dilemma is they are 2 of your better scorers, so you don't want to lose them, but as expensive players they are also the easiest to upgrade.

    Lets assume JWH and mansour will go for now, but if the other 3 stay in your team with the 9 keepers, then now we have 11 trades to use on 9 players.

    3 types of trade-ins
    Cash Cow - someone you trade in with the goal of trading out later at a profit. You want to make at least $200k if you can. not many obvious targets here. Tommy Talau might be OK, but he won't score 3 tries every week. I wouldn't trust HTF. You probably only get to bring in 1-3 cash cows, so have to be as confident as possible they'll do well, or you'll end up with a team of $300k players you can't move on who are either not playing, or scoring shit.
    Keepers - best scoring player you can to score for you every week. Affordability is the biggest issue so just have to get value wherever you can.
    Cash Outs - cheap players brought in to fund upgrades elsewhere. Ideally not part of your 17except to cover short term injuries. if you get McIntrye he'd fall into this category, same with Niu. Trading in a $212k player who doesn't play for looping purposes can be OK, especially later in the season, but you already have 2 red dots so probably not something you'd deliberately do.

    I'm not sure which Hopoate you have, Will or Jamil, but either way I'd consider downgrading to Tesi Niu as the cheapest player likely to play (assuming he doesn't get dropped this week)

    Other priority is to upgrade the 2 worst scorers in your 17. Sironen and Stone just scored tries themselves, so not necessarily trade them out this week, hope they can make a bit of money off the back of a good score before ditching.

    For upgrades - you aren't going to be able to go to Haas, Cook, Tauamalolo. Far too much money involved so you have to target the cheapest guys you can.
    Martin Taupau is cheap for his scoring after injury. 2-3 weeks after he comes back from injury Mitchell Moses might be too.
    Raymond Faitala-Mariner is pumping out pretty good scores for someone only just over $500k. He is an affordable upgrade over JTB who is just about maxxed out in price.
    Reece Robson another one you might want to look at (although he was best 3 weeks ago). As is Luke Thompson the new Bulldogs prop.

    Good luck improving your rank.
    Just by sticking it out and making trades each week you will be able to improve, and with a bit of luck with injuries you should be able to make significant gains



    This is why I've always liked the Milchcow as a poster - great advice for a rookie player, without being patronising.
    You sir, are a deadset champ.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:08 pm

    Shady2K wrote:

    Herbie a viable cow now? Beating Heart

    Had him since day 1. Probably makes Niu a bit more concrete with Isaako likely going to be other winger now
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:15 pm

    Snatchpato wrote:
    long quote:
    Hey mate thanks so much for the effort you put into replying. I was very unsure of whether I should have been trading the non-players, but what you say makes sense. I think I'll consider JWH and Mansour as keepers at this point, partially because I'm in such bad shape at this point, and partially because I've been ravaged by injuries the last few weeks and now have PTSD about trading healthy players lol. I'll definitely consider upgrading them later should I get some nice luck re: injuries.

    Yep Sironen and Stone have been god awful (excluding this week), but for me at least they've been actually playing, and fielding 17 players has been my biggest issue the last few weeks (e.g. picking up Erin Clark for round 6 only for him to be dropped in round 7 D'oh!).

    Will Hopoate, injured, is unfortunately the Hopo. Happily trading him out given he's out 6-8 weeks, and downgrading to Niu (given TLT) should free up ~450k.

    With that cash, would it be wiser to upgrade some midrange players (Lowe/JTB to RFM as an example) or to use that cash to upgrade Nikorima to DCE/Cleary which would leave me with 188k/107k? I know you mentioned that I shouldn't be looking to upgrade to the monsters (Lolo, Haas, etc) however Nikorima has been exceptionally poor for me given his price, and I'd love to have a reliable gun for some consistency. It does leave me with little cash, and no genuine money makers unless Averillo/Niu go big in the next couple of weeks, which will make upgrades harder down the line. Decisions decisions...

    Edit: Oh also I've been chucking the C on Grant or Matto, which has been great lately, and I can only pray those guns keep firing.

    Grant and Matto are going great for captaincy options right now, so fine for that.

    I definitely wouldn't go for Cleary, and probably not DCE - in fact in general with cash as tight as it is, I would not trade in anyone over around $750k
    DCE is $100k cheaper than Cleary, so if you don't already have Cleary I'd be satisfied with someone less.
    if you can wait that long, Moses will be under $700k 1-2 weeks after he comes back. Adam Reynlds and Pearce are already about $650k, and I'd much rather have one of them + $200k than Cleary at this point.
    DCE is about as expensive as I'd be willing to go ( David Fifita when he returns is another around that price who might be worth it) Otherwise find guys in the $6-700k range who can get close enough in scoring to be worth it.

    Having Will over Jamil is good news, in that it means an extra $100k to play with. Will Hopoate - Tesi Niu gives you an OK bankroll to start upgrading people with. main issue is you'll have to hope Niu keeps his spot, don't want to be left with too many people not playing.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:28 pm

    I'm mildly interested in Clifford. Talk me out of it.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:28 pm

    Is Matto worth his price tag? Does Moses out hurt him?
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:30 pm

    Milchcow wrote: I would not trade in anyone over around $750k

    Milch kind of answered my question here re Matto.
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    Post by Empyreal Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:31 pm

    wolfking wrote:I'm mildly interested in Clifford.  Talk me out of it.

    Morgan to return "soon" so Clifford will likely be the one dropped then. Also 1 monster game doesn't turn him into a keeper. Has been dropping cash with passable scores all season.
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    Post by Empyreal Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:32 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    Milch kind of answered my question here re Matto.

    After going up 80k in the last 2 weeks so I don't think he's a buy. Unlikely to keep the 70+ scores going. Doubt you will regret the purchase but the cash could be used for upgrades elsewhere.
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:32 pm

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    Post by Camo123 Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:33 pm

    wolfking wrote:Is Matto worth his price tag?  Does Moses out hurt him?

    I think getting someone like Arrow/Tevaga/Jurbo/Murray who will get 55 and possibly above for 130k cheaper is the better play
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    Post by wolfking Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:38 pm

    Empyreal wrote:

    Morgan to return "soon" so Clifford will likely be the one dropped then. Also 1 monster game doesn't turn him into a keeper. Has been dropping cash with passable scores all season.

    Empyreal wrote:

    After going up 80k in the last 2 weeks so I don't think he's a buy. Unlikely to keep the 70+ scores going. Doubt you will regret the purchase but the cash could be used for upgrades elsewhere.

    Thanks mate. No bullshit, sensible response. Have a thumbs up.
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:38 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    Milch kind of answered my question here re Matto.

    As a Matterson owner, I'm very worried about how Moses out affects his scoring. Nothing to be done about it though. Probably wouldn't be bringing him in at peak price though.

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