HomeThere is a few I'm tossing up.
Lam vs Milf
Cook vs Grant
Love to hear peoples thoughts on the above player choices.
Lam vs Milf
Cook vs Grant
Love to hear peoples thoughts on the above player choices.
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Yeah I am planning to start with Milf, Lam and Brooks. Probably 2 of the 3 pay off and the other gets upgraded to Moses.Chewie wrote:
Yeah I'm starting with Milf, surely he improves on last season (the only way is up right?)
2017 - 45.5 avg
2018 - 50.7 avg
2019 - 54.7 avg
2020 - 31.9 avg (the Seibold effect)
2021 - ???
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Chewie wrote:
Yeah I'm starting with Milf, surely he improves on last season (the only way is up right?)
2017 - 45.5 avg
2018 - 50.7 avg
2019 - 54.7 avg
2020 - 31.9 avg (the Seibold effect)
2021 - ???
but kevin walters is even more shit than seibold? Id love to pick Milf but cant get past walters being even worse than seibold
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but kevin walters is even more shit than seibold? Id love to pick Milf but cant get past walters being even worse than seibold
What makes Walters worse than Siebold?
I'm not a Walters fan boy, I was initially against giving him the job - but I think he is the kind of coach the club needs right now, at least in the short term. He's at the opposite end of the scale to Siebold, more focussed on old school footy ethics and building the culture back up. Siebold over complicated things, the players hated it, and he was too stubborn to change his own methods.
Siebold shut himself off from everyone where as Walters is open to as much help as he can get. He's brought some older footy heads with Terry Matterson and John Cartright as assistants, plus guys like Petero to mentor the forwards. Steve Walters has also come on as football manager.
I don't expect anything crazy but I think they will be at least competitive in most games.
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I don't think its possible for the Broncos to be as bad as they were last year.
Whether any improvement translates to fantasy points for Milford is another question.
But if he improves 5 points, then he's a bit of a dud buy.
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tl;dr - Unless you think Luai takes another step or Panthers become much better, Cleary's scores are largely repeatable
Good analysis MS
I was initially against picking any of Haas/McInnes/Cleary as they were just so much more than everyone else and a big chunk of salary cap.
But if any of them can maintain a 70+ average, (and everyone else stays mid 60s at best) then I am starting to think you need one as captain.
It won't be Haas (unless we get some indication they'll flog him for big minutes again) so I am starting to consider either McInnes or Cleary to come in as captain. Whoever is most likely to keep up 70+
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Cameron McInnes to join the Cronulla Sharks for 2022 and beyond 
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Taken with a large pinch of salt, but Foxsports have done a predicted Broncos 17 that has neither Lodge or Riki in it. Fair few teams getting ripped up if that's the case.
Looking quickly at the Broncos forum (really don't want to spend too much time there) a lot of them have Asiata as 13 in their starting teams.
Looking quickly at the Broncos forum (really don't want to spend too much time there) a lot of them have Asiata as 13 in their starting teams.
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Milchcow wrote:
Good analysis MS
I was initially against picking any of Haas/McInnes/Cleary as they were just so much more than everyone else and a big chunk of salary cap.
But if any of them can maintain a 70+ average, (and everyone else stays mid 60s at best) then I am starting to think you need one as captain.
It won't be Haas (unless we get some indication they'll flog him for big minutes again) so I am starting to consider either McInnes or Cleary to come in as captain. Whoever is most likely to keep up 70+
So many reports of Dragons shopping for other hookers has me worried… Either the Dragons want McInnes solely as a Lock or they don’t want him at all… Has me steering away from him a bit.
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https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/02/02/sharks-set-to-lock-in-mcinnes-on-four-year-deal/
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Would love to see McInnes switch clubs just after round 13 this season.
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multiple.scoregasms wrote:Bit of a deep dive into Cleary to see how repeatable his scores are
Firstly breaking them down year by year into attacking and base
As we can see most of his upside this season came from a huge increase in base points, with his attacking points staying relatively in line with career averages
Further breaking down his base we can see why
Put simply, for the first time in his career Cleary was playing next to a half that doesn't kick the ball. KM as a stat is heavily dependent on gameflow(kicking out of your own half regularly, not camped on the opposition 20 through dropped ball or forward pack dominating metres)
So how does this compare to other dominant kickers?
Moses 453.6
DCE 417.4
Lewis 422.4
Pearce 372.8
Reynolds 393.3
While Cleary is at the top per game, his stats aren't outside the realm of realistic. If we assume Luai will take on a bit more as well as game flow going a little again Cleary by "normalising" to 400 km per game instead of 500, his average would still be a lofty 67.
tl;dr - Unless you think Luai takes another step or Panthers become much better, Cleary's scores are largely repeatable
I rate this post. What it says to me is yes, Cleary can keep scoring 70+. It also says to me, KMs/tackles/RMs/FDOs are maxed out and if his price changes it's more likely to move downwards than upwards so he's not an autopick for me. Still, will probably finish as top half scorer and is a good captain option, so if not starting with him, need a plan to get him.
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Pretty hard to play a season in front of Dragons fans who know you're off to the Sharks next year. Wonder if this deal will be hurried along.
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StormTrooper96 wrote:
So many reports of Dragons shopping for other hookers has me worried… Either the Dragons want McInnes solely as a Lock or they don’t want him at all… Has me steering away from him a bit.
Who were those rumoured hookers again? Macca was one, right?
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I wonder if Griffin intends to buy and play a McCullough/Peats type and play them, or whether they are for depth and he intends to play hunt at hooker and buy a better half???
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What makes Walters worse than Siebold?
I'm not a Walters fan boy, I was initially against giving him the job - but I think he is the kind of coach the club needs right now, at least in the short term. He's at the opposite end of the scale to Siebold, more focussed on old school footy ethics and building the culture back up. Siebold over complicated things, the players hated it, and he was too stubborn to change his own methods.
Siebold shut himself off from everyone where as Walters is open to as much help as he can get. He's brought some older footy heads with Terry Matterson and John Cartright as assistants, plus guys like Petero to mentor the forwards. Steve Walters has also come on as football manager.
I don't expect anything crazy but I think they will be at least competitive in most games.
yeah, the different coaching style should be better for Milf, the question is how long it will take for Milf to regain confidence. We'll see. Anyway I'm happy to take the punt
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rhinoceroo wrote:Taken with a large pinch of salt, but Foxsports have done a predicted Broncos 17 that has neither Lodge or Riki in it. Fair few teams getting ripped up if that's the case.
Looking quickly at the Broncos forum (really don't want to spend too much time there) a lot of them have Asiata as 13 in their starting teams.
A lot of mail that both are unwanted and being shopped, could Fox knows something we don't.
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Who were those rumoured hookers again? Macca was one, right?
Not shopping around, but shopping for and it's Peats that has been mentioned
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Mulvy wrote:I wonder if Griffin intends to buy and play a McCullough/Peats type and play them, or whether they are for depth and he intends to play hunt at hooker and buy a better half???
Or more excitingly for Fantasy play Sullivan at half.
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rhinoceroo wrote:Taken with a large pinch of salt, but Foxsports have done a predicted Broncos 17 that has neither Lodge or Riki in it. Fair few teams getting ripped up if that's the case.
Looking quickly at the Broncos forum (really don't want to spend too much time there) a lot of them have Asiata as 13 in their starting teams.
A lot of talk from the Broncos about Riki has included the words "raw" and other stuff that indicates he is more of a long term prospect than immediate first grade regular.
So it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't start (although I also wouldn't be surprised if he does start, either)
There are enough EDG value propositions that nobody should need to rip up their team if one of them doesn't make it. Only if lots of them fuall through will there be a lot of trouble
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Iron Mike wrote:There is a few I'm tossing up.
Lam vs Milf
Cook vs Grant
Love to hear peoples thoughts on the above player choices.
Grant is obviously a gun but it's hard to know how the Grant BSmith situation will play out. How many minutes will Smith get at hooker. I'm actually interested in Smith if he plays lock and gets some minutes at 9, pushing his minutes to 60+. If BSmith can average close to 50 points then he would be a good hold until the first bye where he will be a good rd 13 player with Grant away at Origin.
Personal preference but i'm not going near Milf. Have Lam as my 3rd half.