NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 7 - Trial edition

Couldn't help but make another team

Brailey
Crichton Tino Watson
Fifita Riki
Cleary Brooks
Bird Hopoate
Teddy Papy Isaako

LAM Liddle Host Roberts
Alvaro Gosiewski Simonsson Ieramia

mattnz wrote:

Peachey comes on around 25-30 minutes into the first half, Tino is still on at that time and moves to prop. Plays big minutes in the first half, then goes off. Peachey plays lock, then hooker when Tino comes back for a much shorter 2nd stint.

You need to preface these types of posts with "in my opinion"

mattnz wrote:
Dont think there is any less competition for Leniu, he is surrounded by big minute middles.
Looking like:
Yeo 60-80
JFH 50-70
Leota 40

Martin 20 in the middle, takes that from either Yeo or JFH each week when Kikau comes back on, as Cleary has implied
Eisenhuth 30+ - averaged 58 minutes last season
Leniu - maybe 20-30 if he is lucky and they only play both Yeo and JFH 60 each, which screws up the interchanges, with Kikau needing 2 as well

Really hard to find decent minutes for Leniu

Leniu is an ultra talented youngster, who is quite frankly a better player than both Leota and Eisenhuth. Martin spending some time in the middle does muddy the water a little but Leniu will be a key part of the rotation this year. Granted minutes may be low for the first few weeks which will make him a slow burn, but I expect he will not only be the starter by end of year, he will be in the conversation for rep teams

rhinoceroo wrote:

For someone who said he hates supposition you've got a lot of "ifs" going on there.

Most of those ifs gave Leniu more minutes, not less, was his best case scenario. Less minutes this season for JFH, Yeo and Eisenhuth, so he gets 20-30 minutes of game time.

Camo123 wrote:

I see Turpin like Robson in middle of last year

Might have no bench HOK come R1, but I don't think you can ever be sure it'll be the same bench configuration week to week and his scores will be like a rollercoaster if you end up with the bad case scenario

I'm keen on Turpin but I don't think he scores as well as people think, if he does play 80. He goes 100 miles an hour and those extra 20 mins will see his scoring taper off and missed tackles pile up. He does need to pace himself a little better, but the best part of his game is his aggression. He is definitely better suited to playing 50 ish mins at this stage. It's a huge year for him, his career is somewhat at a crossroads.

We will likely have a utility (of some sort) on the bench in round 1 anyway so it will probably be unclear as to how they'll play him.

FYI walters on Dearden/Croft, not giving much away, which has been his stance all pre season -

“I am looking at different combinations at my training sessions and I will make a final decision next week. Tom and Brodie are neck and neck at this stage. Tom did some good things in the trial last week but Brodie was also very good so I have a tough decision to make. It’s a good headache to have because you want players competing for positions.”

Here's my latest hooker draft:

Turpin
Crichton, Watson, BSmith
DFifita, Riki
Cleary (c), Lam
Kelly Marsters
Tedesco, RTS, Hoy

Brailey, Davey, Liddle, Leniu

Croker, Simpkin, Young, Laurie

Chose BSmith over Tino so I can have a look. Expect 55's from Smith initially whereas not sure on Tino hitting those highs.
Centres could be anyone. Gone off averillo a little.
Knights opening draw is favourable and expect Hoy to score OK.
Gone with Lam as don't expect him to miss many tackles. Should score around 45ish I'm hoping.

Missed out on the ramblings on the forum last night, had to pick up some cargo from the port.
It's a beautiful thing when Welshy and Archer are on at the same time. Some massive upvotes on some of the votes

Good to see the return of League 51... last year it reverted back to L5 which was probably appropriate with 2020 not having much to party about...
There is a high probability that I'll be back in L51 next season together with my GIF buddies.... Code Delta... Honeysett... No Worries.... Milchy....and all the other lads... you know who you are.

mattnz wrote:
Most of those ifs gave Leniu more minutes, not less, was his best case scenario. Less minutes this season for JFH, Yeo and Eisenhuth, so he gets 20-30 minutes of game time.

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No disrespect, but his best case scenario is that he ends up a starting Prop over Leota (not that I'm saying this will happen, but, if we're talking best case scenarios).
You're opinions are interesting, but unless you've landed the assistant coach job at the Panthers, then they're just your opinion rather than locked-in facts.

As a Tigers fan who has watched every one of Eisenhuths 70 first grade games, you're opinion of his first grade ability is in my opinion a bit over-stated.

I like him as a player (mostly in that he's big on effort), but he's the guy that fills in adequately when other players are out/injured/returning from injury.
He's a great fantasy player (when getting good minutes) but not as great IRL.
Unless something changes at the Panthers, he's not particularly potent with gaining metres, and while he is keen in defence, his misreads and lapses in the defensive line seem to often be costly.
They're not a problem for fantasy scores, but not great in terms of winning matches (although I'd never doubt him for giving 100%).

I'll put it to you like this, given the role of Middle players, as a coach which looks more advantageous to your team:

96.9% effective tackle rate
3.1MG per minute on the field
4.8TB per 80 minutes of football

94.5% effective tackle rate
1.7MG per minute on the field
0.8TB per 80 minutes of football
0.37 errors per 80 minutes of football

I think you can guess which is which. Eisenhuth has more experience, but Leniu looks far more likely to be the player that's going to have a positive impact in the middle.

in any case... page 51 is coming up soon... prepare yourselves

Deuces wrote:Is there a forwards rotation prediction thread anywhere?

@Alfie used to put one together, I haven't seen him around this season

Welshy wrote:I'm going to start putting my scoring system on peoples teams again with my predicted score range. post them up and I'll start

Hi Welshy,

Really appreciate this

Brailey

Crichton Watson Lodge

Fifita Riki

CLEARY Fogarty

Averillo Bird

Isaako Teddy Paps

Lam Brailey Davey Alvaro

Koloa Laurie Stefano Niu

Any comments appreciated.

Will probably drop Isaako to upgrade bench.

Cheers :-)

I agree with easytiger's assessment of Eisenhuth. He is a better fantasy player than real life player.

Good for getting through tackles and hitups, which certainly can be useful, but is not going to win you lots of games.

easytiger wrote:
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No disrespect, but his best case scenario is that he ends up a starting Prop over Leota (not that I'm saying this will happen, but, if we're talking best case scenarios).
You're opinions are interesting, but unless you've landed the assistant coach job at the Panthers, then they're just your opinion rather than locked-in facts.

As a Tigers fan who has watched every one of Eisenhuths 70 first grade games, you're opinion of his first grade ability is in my opinion a bit over-stated.

I like him as a player (mostly in that he's big on effort), but he's the guy that fills in adequately when other players are out/injured/returning from injury.
He's a great fantasy player (when getting good minutes) but not as great IRL.
Unless something changes at the Panthers, he's not particularly potent with gaining metres, and while he is keen in defence, his misreads and lapses in the defensive line seem to often be costly.
They're not a problem for fantasy scores, but not great in terms of winning matches (although I'd never doubt him for giving 100%).

I'll put it to you like this, given the role of Middle players, as a coach which looks more advantageous to your team:

96.9% effective tackle rate
3.1MG per minute on the field
4.8TB per 80 minutes of football

94.5% effective tackle rate
1.7MG per minute on the field
0.8TB per 80 minutes of football
0.37 errors per 80 minutes of football

I think you can guess which is which. Eisenhuth has more experience, but Leniu looks far more likely to be the player that's going to have a positive impact in the middle.

Imagine a guy that plays almost 3 times as many minutes per game having less punch in his game per minute!

Chewie wrote:

@Alfie used to put one together, I haven't seen him around this season

He's registered for this season, so should be around sooner or later

thelastdodo wrote:


Hi Welshy,

Really appreciate this

Brailey

Crichton  Watson  Lodge

Fifita  Riki

CLEARY Fogarty

Averillo  Bird

Isaako Teddy  Paps

Lam Brailey Davey Alvaro

Koloa Laurie Stefano Niu

Any comments appreciated.

Will probably drop Isaako to upgrade bench.

Cheers :-)

Brailey 40-48

Crichton 60-62 Watson 40-60 Lodge 35-45

Fifita 55-62 Riki 30-40

CLEARY 130-144 Fogarty 48-55

Averillo 20-35 Bird 30-42

Isaako 30-37 Teddy 60-65 Paps 50-55

Lam 35-48 Brailey Davey 30-40 Alvaro 20-35

Koloa 30-40 Laurie Stefano Niu

I included Kolos score because I’m not sure if you have both Brailey brothers or because you double booked JBrailey

713 - 913

my tv broke wrote:

You need to preface these types of posts with "in my opinion"

The facts are that it was the role Peachey played last season when he was in my team and played the exact same role in the trial this week. Unless something changes, that is Peachey's role, not my opinion, facts.

mattnz wrote:
The facts are that it was the role Peachey played last season when he was in my team and played the exact same role in the trial this week. Unless something changes, that is Peachey's role, not my opinion, facts.

He may of filled in at hooker a couple of times last year but that isn't the 'role' he played consistently.

They had 26 players and about 4 different hookers in the trial...

Titans pack has had a load of changes, 2 major signings so pack role is up in the air