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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:44 am

    L-Jimmy wrote:

    But that’s another huge assumption! Why would the PPM remain the same if he’s on the field a lot longer? 40 minute props can be a lot less explosive and busy than a 20 minute impact benchie

    Yeah does come down a ppm if on longer but 10 minutes longer wouldn't change too much.
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    Post by mattnz Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:50 am

    L-Jimmy wrote:

    Only if, and it’s a bloody massive if, the coach decides to play everyone at their exact same role every year and doesn’t ask more of their best front rower.

    i mean, really. Leinu won’t get minutes because Martin needs them? Or Eisenhuth? Maybe! But probably damn not.
    Its more for interchange balance. They can't have both Kikau and Capewell playing less than 80 minutes. Cleary already stated after the trial game that Capewell will be starting 2nd row and Martin will spend time in the middle. If Eisenhuth gets the balance of Leota's minutes (still an 18 minute reduction from last season), Leniu gets the balance of JFHs minutes and Martin gets 20 minutes from Yeo, which is the likely best scenario for Leniu.

    If JFH drops to 50-60 minutes, giving Leniu 20-30 minutes, they have used 7 interchanges just on those swaps, if Yeo doesn't return to the field, leaving just 1 for any injuries, or getting May on the field for tactical reasons.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:55 am

    mattnz wrote:
    Its more for interchange balance. They can't have both Kikau and Capewell playing less than 80 minutes. Cleary already stated after the trial game that Capewell will be starting 2nd row and Martin will spend time in the middle. If Eisenhuth gets the balance of Leota's minutes (still an 18 minute reduction from last season), Leniu gets the balance of JFHs minutes and Martin gets 20 minutes from Yeo, which is the likely best scenario for Leniu.

    If JFH drops to 50-60 minutes, giving Leniu 20-30 minutes, they have used 7 interchanges just on those swaps, if Yeo doesn't return to the field, leaving just 1 for any injuries, or getting May on the field for tactical reasons.

    For someone who said he hates supposition you've got a lot of "ifs" going on there.

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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:02 am

    If Capewell plays 80 minutes with the other side being the side that comes off. Is he worth it? I'm pretty sure i will play him on DT and probably SC as well as is available as a centre. Not so sure here on Fantasy with the centre dual taken away.
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    Post by Camo123 Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:12 am

    Eaglestar wrote:

    Macca priced pretty high. Will he play 80 each week to get that 54 average to near 60 or will they give those old legs a rest now and then. I see heaps better value in Turpin at his price if he is playing 80 or close to it. If no bench hooker for the Broncos round 1 i be all over Turpin that for sure on Fantasy. Averages 45 priced at 40 in 59 min from last year so is still some value there even with a bench hooker. Playing 80 he'd get 60 average going by last year. Guess TLT will decide.

    I may leave Cook out and start with cheaper hookers. Turpin, Brailey, Watson, Liddle etc. Boost the team elsewhere so can start with Cleary, Crichton, Tedesco, Papy etc. and get Cook later on.

    I see Turpin like Robson in middle of last year

    Might have no bench HOK come R1, but I don't think you can ever be sure it'll be the same bench configuration week to week and his scores will be like a rollercoaster if you end up with the bad case scenario
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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:16 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    I see Turpin like Robson in middle of last year

    Might have no bench HOK come R1, but I don't think you can ever be sure it'll be the same bench configuration week to week and his scores will be like a rollercoaster if you end up with the bad case scenario

    True maybe i will find a bit more to get Fogerty in instead. I keep having visions of him setting up Tino and Fifita through holes week to week and with that goal kicking on top i am being very tempted. As the year went on last year he just looks better and better.

    and i never owned Fogerty last year when he was cheap and kept saying to myself how did i let that one get away haha


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    Post by Deuces Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:17 am

    Is there a forwards rotation prediction thread anywhere?
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    Post by Honey Badger Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:18 am

    Eaglestar wrote:

    Got me thinking again for that 4th Mid. I do like Leniu with his ppm. Will he get increase in minutes but? L Martin could spend time in the middle as well as spelling Kikau with Capewell on the other edge. No tamou this year but with the great players that can play prop they got like JFH, Leota, Eisenhuth there to. Yeo playing lock. Feel there is not much minutes to go around for Leniu unless is injuries. He does look like a great player but if gets the minutes.

    I thought Leota and Lenui pretty much split minutes in the trial. Id still back Lenui to be better value than LAM which was my point
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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:22 am

    Honey Badger wrote:

    I thought Leota and Lenui pretty much split minutes in the trial. Id still back Lenui to be better value than LAM which was my point

    Ok fair point Smile
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:35 am

    Honey Badger wrote:

    I thought Leota and Lenui pretty much split minutes in the trial. Id still back Lenui to be better value than LAM which was my point

    SMH article today says Bellamy tried to poach Leniu to Storm last year, but he signed 2 year extension with Panthers.  Of course, means nothing about how many minutes he’ll play.


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    Post by mattnz Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:35 am

    Eaglestar wrote:If Capewell plays 80 minutes with the other side being the side that comes off. Is he worth it? I'm pretty sure i will play him on DT and probably SC as well as is available as a centre. Not so sure here on Fantasy with the centre dual taken away.

    Is locked into my side. Isn't the guy they move to centers any longer, May fills that role in the team if required.
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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:37 am

    Jumping Marlin wrote:

    SMH article today says Bellamy tried to poach Leniu to Storm last year, but he signed 2 year extension with Panthers.  Of course, means nothing about how many minutes he’ll play.

    Shows how highly rated he is then. Come on Panthers give Leniu 40 minutes a game this year double from last year cheer Laughing
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    Post by mattnz Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:39 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    I see Turpin like Robson in middle of last year

    Might have no bench HOK come R1, but I don't think you can ever be sure it'll be the same bench configuration week to week and his scores will be like a rollercoaster if you end up with the bad case scenario
    Even when there was a bench hooker last season, he played at least 57 minutes every round. As starting hooker he had an average of 48, priced at 40, with only one of those games being 80 minutes. If he ends up as 80 minute hooker, his average will be much higher.
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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:41 am

    Bloody hell. How do i fit all these players in.

    Fantasy sure makes it tough. Can fit them in so much more easily on DT and SC. Fantasy is a nice test but.


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    Post by Honey Badger Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:47 am

    Eaglestar wrote:Bloody hell. How do i fit all these players in.

    Give us bigger squads!
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    Post by Eaglestar Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:52 am

    Honey Badger wrote:

    Give us bigger squads!

    More cap and bigger squads would be nice.
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:52 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:Tell me why not to start with Macca, why is it a bad idea? Dragons will be bottom 2 and with it being such a fast game he’s likely to make 60 tackles a week.... I see value there in Macca and Turpin if playing 80mins.... could get Cook in later on

    I'm in the same boat. I actually have enough cash spare to start with Cook instead if I don't go Ted + Sub-gun WFB. I would be happier Cook 65 and Macca 60 for the price difference
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:53 am

    Honey Badger wrote:

    Give us bigger squads!

    The 21 is very restrictive. I could probably realistically only afford a 22nd player with the same cap though
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:11 am

    Honey Badger wrote:

    Put a line through LAM he's not gonna get the minutes. Lenui is cheaper, has less competition, younger, and more explosive!

    Panthers first interchange last year last year averaged 35 minutes. Do we think thats Leniu this year? Eisenhuth in there too now worries me assuming Leota starts. I know Leniu minutes probably increase through the year, but prefer quicker cash to start year. Thoughts?
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    Post by Mulvy Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:18 am

    Oh, was heavily discussed already.

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