NRL Fantasy 2021 - Part 9 - ‘Twas the weekend before TLT

mintotheimmortal wrote:Just thinking about milfords move to the right and the implications on his kicking game, and it popped into my mind about Moses moving to the left, are we assuming his kicking tapers off a bit or do we still expect him to dominate the kicking

I think Brown becomes more dominant again this season

Rabbits21 wrote:

Your thoughts mate on Milf?

My favourite type of woman.

lol

Archer wrote:
I've got Cotric, currently running him in wfb but he might wind up at ctr. He's value, dogs aren't as strong as raiders so I expect them to lean on him a bit more/him feel more able to demand ball

I can't help but think that Cotric's value is him at WFB where he takes the ball back from kicks. His long term average at CTR is significantly lower than his score at WFB. I reckon Latrell is much better value + he plays origin

Tino is going to play big minutes in the middle. He stayed on the field when Peachy came on. For me Tino is the ideal stepping stone to someone like Taumalolo or Tohu.

head over to the community team thread https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t1533-community-team-starting-squad to put up your preferred 21 and contribute your vote to our starting team.

I see we had the Fanatics weigh-in yesterday before going toe to toe Round 1.

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Re: Cotric - there is no way I’m spending 484 on a CTR that isn’t playing in the backrow

I made my first serious attempt at a 21 this arvo, my main issue is:
Macca + Lodge/AhMau/other
vs
Tino + Brooks/Milf/Turps/Hodgson/other

The other 19 I have a fair idea of what I want. At least until 4pm Tues

Damn now I remembered I want Cotric as heard on podcast he's switching to wing on opposition last kick

Loomer wrote:Damn now I remembered I want Cotric as heard on podcast he's switching to wing on opposition last kick

wolfking wrote:

My favourite type of woman.

Ahahahaha now your serious thoughts....!!

Just made draft 29 but my 18-20 are all middle players, not sure I like that!

If Gosiewski starts at 288k he may be worth a punt in my emergencies but I wouldn’t be confident!

Turpin
Lodge Welch Watson
Fifita Riki
Cleary Lam
Roberts Averillo
Teddy Pap Laurie

Angus J. Brailey Milford Liddle
Hetherington Faamusili/Gos Utoikamanu Niu


Thoughts?

castlecrag sweethearts wrote:

I can't help but think that Cotric's value is him at WFB where he takes the ball back from kicks. His long term average at CTR is significantly lower than his score at WFB. I reckon Latrell is much better value + he plays origin

I hear you but playing ctr doesn't exclude him from getting involved early on bringing it off his own line. In the raiders team we had heaps of guys digging in and doing that, I think he's got more opportunity/expectation to do that in the dogs. Plus it wouldn't surprise me to see them try and structure a lot of the attack around him, they need to find points somewhere.

Has Niu had his NRL punishment yet?

Probably suspended Round 1 and thus no DPP I bet. Hopefully just a fine.

castlecrag sweethearts wrote:

I can't help but think that Cotric's value is him at WFB where he takes the ball back from kicks. His long term average at CTR is significantly lower than his score at WFB. I reckon Latrell is much better value + he plays origin

In the trial after tackle 4 he went back to the wing to take the kick. Was taking 2 hit ups at the start of sets as well. Gets all the tackles and possession of a center in attack and the hard yards and tackle busts working the ball out of their own end.

Honey Badger wrote:

I think Brown becomes more dominant again this season

Brown would be a fantasy gun if he was the dominant half at a club. I can see his scores improve a bit this season but not enough to join the elite (Cleary, DCE)

DarkKnight wrote:I see we had the Fanatics weigh-in yesterday before going toe to toe Round 1.

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I usually lose a few kgs after going to the hairdresser

Archer wrote:
I hear you but playing ctr doesn't exclude him from getting involved early on bringing it off his own line. In the raiders team we had heaps of guys digging in and doing that

But looking at the Raiders Centres last year Scott/Croker averaged both well less than 100m and 2tbs a game
Those hard carries from your line are good in real life but not for fantasy points. Kick returns though are another thing
For context Semi Valemi averaged more Tb and RM than both of them and he averaged 22....

Rapana is a good example, played a reasonable amount of both Wing and Centre last year for the Raiders
Reduced running metres and tackle breaks at centre, offset with double the tackles made and missed tackles
This is generally the case across the broad with most teams

Cotric is priced at his 4 year career average of 36 after averaging 36 on the wing in 2020
His centre average is 31 from 8 games.
So we have have a fairly good look including his year when he broke into origin

What is he going to different this year playing centre for last years bottom team?
What do people hope from him 40?

Honey Badger wrote:Tino is going to play big minutes in the middle. He stayed on the field when Peachy came on. For me Tino is the ideal stepping stone to someone like Taumalolo or Tohu.

Just going off my head for the hooker, 2 forward positions and lock.

Total 320mins


Mofo 55mins
Rein 50mins
Wallace 45mins
Lisone 30mins
Joliffe 30mins
Peachey 55mins
Tino 55mins

Total: 320mins

For Tino to play bigger minutes someone here needs to have their minutes reduced. Otherwise 55mins at 0.87ppm( assuming he can continue scoring the way he has been)= 47.85. If they don’t carry lisone or Joliffe in the bench then definitely bigger minutes in play but if Joliffe and lisone are there then I expect Tino to play 55mins each game

castlecrag sweethearts wrote:

I can't help but think that Cotric's value is him at WFB where he takes the ball back from kicks. His long term average at CTR is significantly lower than his score at WFB. I reckon Latrell is much better value + he plays origin

ding ding ding.

michaelz101 wrote:

Just going off my head for the hooker, 2 forward positions and lock.

Total 320mins


Mofo 55mins
Rein 50mins
Wallace 45mins
Lisone 30mins
Joliffe 30mins
Peachey 55mins
Tino 55mins

Total: 320mins

For Tino to play bigger minutes someone here needs to have their minutes reduced. Otherwise 55mins at 0.87ppm( assuming he can continue scoring the way he has been)= 47.85. If they don’t carry lisone or Joliffe in the bench then definitely bigger minutes in play but if Joliffe and lisone are there then I expect Tino to play 55mins each game

Nice breakdown. I can see a few tweaks to get Tino on field longer, Likely Peachey and Lower minutes for the bench props. To spread some risk you could start with BS9 and see how the Titans forward rotation and jump on Tino if satisfied, wastes a trade but will be similar prices and better look at Tino potentially becoming a gun