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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 2 - pareto weighted moving average

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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:41 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Not working for me yet says can’t do it for pre 2018 matches and when I change it to one year only still says that.

    who are you trying to compare ?
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    Post by mattnz Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:42 pm

    Alfie wrote:

    Jordan Riki not listed don't forget

    Riki listed to return from injury during trials. Nothing to see here
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    Post by Lchy Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:44 pm

    my tv broke wrote:hi all

    you can now filter a player on games with/without another player

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    Every time I think that site is perfect you add a feature I didn’t know I needed but now can’t live without. Don’t know how you do it but we don’t deserve you
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:50 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    who are you trying to compare ?
    Any player but maybe I’m doing it wrong I dunno...
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:59 pm

    Working fine on the iphone
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    Post by precursor Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:00 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:What are the odds that Kalyn Ponga takes the GK role back at the Knights this year? He is about 5 points undervalued on a lower than average year and a few injury-affected games. If he takes back goal kicking, this is closer to 10 - 12 points undervalued.

    It is not like his replacement Jake Clifford was doing that great a job (67% rate) compared to (71% for Ponga) but maybe he does not want the added pressure?

    71% surprises me. Every time he lines up he looks like missing it. I wouldn’t bank on Ponga getting the kicking duties.
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    Post by Rooster Booster Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:17 pm

    Updated team lists

    https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/02/15/pre-season-trials-week-one-squad-announcements/
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:32 pm

    Jumping Marlin wrote:Working fine on the iphone
    So is it meant bring up both players stats together? 

    I can only see the one I’m looking at not the one I’m comparing too.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:32 pm

    Bullemor starting 2nd row for Manly let’s see how he goes.

    Keep and eye on Koula too likely  plays all of second half at FB.
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    Post by Lchy Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:40 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    So is it meant bring up both players stats together? 

    I can only see the one I’m looking at not the one I’m comparing too.

    just one lot of stats, eg Pap averages 51.1 when Hynes also plays but 42.0 when Hynes doesn't play
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:41 pm

    Lchy wrote:

    just one lot of stats, eg Pap averages 51.1 when Hynes also plays but 42.0 when Hynes doesn't play
    I don’t think I’ll bother I find it easier to look at them separately cant get the new way to work.
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:46 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    I don’t think I’ll bother I find it easier to look at them separately cant get the new way to work.

    It just shows games with or without the filtered player

    Eg if you want to see Harry Grants scores in games that Brandon Smith doesnt play.. etc


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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:46 pm

    Lchy wrote:

    just one lot of stats, eg Pap averages 51.1 when Hynes also plays but 42.0 when Hynes doesn't play

    i am not sure what filters around position/minutes you used to get those stats. But with fullback 60+ minute stats I can see 61 with, 53 without (old stats)

    But one of the "with Hynes" games was Papy's 124 where he pretty much cracked the 100 fantasy points before Hynes even took the field
    Another one he scored 75 when Hynes was an unused bench player that still showed up in mtb's stats.


    So whilst the filter is certainly useful, i would not trust it in this specific case
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:50 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    i am not sure what filters around position/minutes you used to get those stats. But with fullback 60+ minute stats I can see 61 with, 53 without (old stats)

    But one of the "with Hynes" games was Papy's 124 where he pretty much cracked the 100 fantasy points before Hynes even took the field
    Another one he scored 75 when Hynes was an unused bench player that still showed up in mtb's stats.


    So whilst the filter is certainly useful, i would not trust it in this specific case

    Oh...ill need to fix it for 0 minute games (reserves).. thats easy enough

    Sorry to say the the data aint deep enough to work out if someone was on the field or bench at the time the other scored points lol
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    Post by Lchy Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:50 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    i am not sure what filters around position/minutes you used to get those stats. But with fullback 60+ minute stats I can see 61 with, 53 without (old stats)

    But one of the "with Hynes" games was Papy's 124 where he pretty much cracked the 100 fantasy points before Hynes even took the field
    Another one he scored 75 when Hynes was an unused bench player that still showed up in mtb's stats.


    So whilst the filter is certainly useful, i would not trust it in this specific case

    I wasn't trying to prove any point about those two players haha I was just trying to explain the with/without thing (those were the two players MTB used in the screenshot so it seemed easiest)
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:52 pm

    Lchy wrote:

    I wasn't trying to prove any point about those two players haha I was just trying to explain the with/without thing (those were the two players MTB used in the screenshot so it seemed easiest)

    I just had to look into it because the with/without stats just seemed so disparate that I had to investigate to see if there was anything meaningful there. Was worried for a second I might have to ditch papy from my team
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    Post by Lchy Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:58 pm

    A very interesting one is DCE with/without Turbo in 2021 regular season

    69.3 with and 74.6 without, despite attacking stats generally being higher across the board when Turbo was in the team. But it looks like the main culprit is making more tackles in the first 6 rounds when Manly were 1-5 so I guess I don't need to turn up to brookvale with a crowbar looking for a reason to not pick Cleary
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    Post by mattnz Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:24 pm

    Wow Schuster really makes Turbo better Smile 88 average with him, 48 without.

    As it seemed watching live, Schuster is better off at EDG when Turbo isn't on the field. He becomes a point of attack. 56 without, 44 with Turbo.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:34 pm

    mattnz wrote:Wow Schuster really makes Turbo better Smile 88 average with him, 48 without.

    As it seemed watching live, Schuster is better off at EDG when Turbo isn't on the field. He becomes a point of attack. 56 without, 44 with Turbo.

    His attacking stats are pretty much the same with/without turbo.

    Points difference is almost entirely made up by the extra tackles he made when Trbo wasn't there.

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    Post by my tv broke Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:45 pm

    I hope that was hook line and sinker

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