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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 5 - RIP Shane Warne

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    Post by rhinoceroo Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:37 am

    mattnz wrote:There are a few key things that have changed for Uto from his big minute scoring run to finish last season, that means those expecting huge minutes are likely to be disappointed.

    1. Tamou didn't play the last 5 of the last 6 games and looks to have got injured, only playing 27 minutes in the 6th of these games. Tamou never played off the bench all last season and is their captain. Is missing from round 1 team with a suspension. Screams trap!

    2. Even if Uto is named at prop ahead of Tamou for round 2 when he returns, Twal would be the prop next to him and is easily capable of 60-80 minutes. I wouldn't be banking on Twal going off the field first.

    3. Peachey has arrived. Another big minute MID that looks to be starting lock.

    All this combined means Uto isnt the value buy everyone expects and isn't getting in my team, until they have a couple of injuries that would free up big minutes.

    I'm not saying you're right or wrong on your other points, but half the Wests team are their "captain", so wouldn't read too much into that at least.
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    Post by Londonbunny Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:39 am

    @Snatchpato thanks. Worry about Harris not playing for first half of season and taking up replacement space? Or is this a common myth?
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:54 am

    Have the Tigers realised Ofa is trash yet?
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    Post by FalconSloth Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:57 am

    Londonbunny wrote:@Snatchpato thanks. Worry about Harris not playing for first half of season and taking up replacement space? Or is this a common myth?

    He is returning round 6 but in a 14 team draft he is definitely worth stashing as he is an out and out gun.
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:04 am

    my tv broke wrote:Have the Tigers realised Ofa is trash yet?

    You spelt "starting lock" wrong

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    Post by Snatchpato Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:06 am

    Londonbunny wrote:@Snatchpato thanks. Worry about Harris not playing for first half of season and taking up replacement space? Or is this a common myth?
    Yep what Falcon said above.

    To add, barring like 12 week injuries, think of your draft team as it'll be come finals. Yes you have to make it to the finals of course, so you can't carry like 5 injured players, but having Tohu in the finals will be a HUGE benefit, and will bring you much closer to glory.
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:12 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Well, we're not sure. That's the point. Keighran will likely kick if selected. SST can kick, although there are problems with giving the gig to a prop. Maybe Ben Walker has taught his son how to kick during the off-season. Momirovski seems most likely to me, but there is uncertainty there.

    Agree with Rhino.

    If Keighran is on the field he will kick. So even as a bench player expect him to do some of the kicking.

    Apparently pre-game against he Roosters, Keighran and Momo were the ones practicing kicks in warm up. Sam Walker played in this game but Taukeiaho didn't.

    If Keighran misses the 17, I'd bet on Momo kicking. Outside of kicking, will he score better at the Roosters than he di dat the Panthers? And would kicking alone be enough for you to select him


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    Post by BCT05 Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:13 am

    mattnz wrote:There are a few key things that have changed for Uto from his big minute scoring run to finish last season, that means those expecting huge minutes are likely to be disappointed.

    1. Tamou didn't play 5 of the last 6 games and looks to have got injured, only playing 27 minutes in the 6th of these games. Tamou never played off the bench all last season and is their captain. Is missing from round 1 team with a suspension. Screams trap!

    2. Even if Uto is named at prop ahead of Tamou for round 2 when he returns, Twal would be the prop next to him and is easily capable of 60-80 minutes. I wouldn't be banking on Twal going off the field first.

    3. Peachey has arrived. Another big minute MID that looks to be starting lock.

    All this combined means Uto isnt the value buy everyone expects and isn't getting in my team, until they have a couple of injuries that would free up big minutes.

    Yeah Uto seemed like an obvious pick when I first started drafting my team so in he went but after actually taking some time to assess last week I came to the same conclusion as you and he's not in my team now
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    Post by robelgordo Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:45 am

    Now Uto is a trap? Just need some teams already. Everyone is going mad. Not like the best young prop in the game not named Haas is going to lose cash
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    Post by rhinoceroo Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:50 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Agree with Rhino.

    If Keighran is on the field he will kick. So even as a bench player expect him to do some of the kicking.

    Apparently pre-game against he Roosters, Keighran and Momo were the ones practicing kicks in warm up. Sam Walker played in this game but Taukeiaho didn't.

    If Keighran misses the 17, I'd bet on Momo kicking. Outside of kicking, will he score better at the Roosters than he di dat the Panthers? And would kicking alone be enough for you to select him



    Centre at one of the better teams - would expect his "normal" scoring to be about the same this year as last year. But if he was full time kicker... Roosters score c.5 tries per game, add a few penalties here and there and let's say Momo kicks at 75%, that's 8 points straight value and in a normal year keeper centre scores.

    But, as you said, Keighran probably kicks when on the field so with one thing and another we probably won't see that full value for Momo over the season.
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:54 am

    I'm surprised Matt isn't all over Uto tbh hah.

    I'm neither here nor there at the moment. There are a lot of if's and maybe's around him and their team, and i've spent absolutely zero time trying to figure it out.

    There are a couple of forwards like him every year that people talk themselves into.

    He definitely could become a gun though.


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    Post by BCT05 Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:54 am

    robelgordo wrote:Now Uto is a trap? Just need some teams already. Everyone is going mad. Not like the best young prop in the game not named Haas is going to lose cash

    No I wouldn't say a trap and not going to lose cash but as Matt said there may not be a lot of value there as it seemed on the face of it.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:59 am

    My backline now consists of Naiqama, Crichton and Coates.

    Dirt cheap and playing for what will probably be the top 3 teams in the league. So hopefully they will be scoring tries or assisting in them somehow
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    Post by BCT05 Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:01 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:My backline now consists of Naiqama, Crichton and Coates.

    Dirt cheap and playing for what will probably be the top 3 teams in the league. So hopefully they will be scoring tries or assisting in them somehow

    No Hynes? Or playing him at Half?
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:03 am

    Rooster Booster wrote:

    What a load of crap, your bias against the Roosters/Nick Politis overtime is just childish.

    Didn't you know jealousy is a curse.
    What’s your guess then as to why a cover up (by team and club) like this was kept so quiet and such a tiny fine was the only penalty?


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    Post by robelgordo Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:03 am

    BCT05 wrote:

    No I wouldn't say a trap and not going to lose cash but as Matt said there may not be a lot of value there as it seemed on the face of it.

    Yeah this is true.

    I just think you can talk yourself in or out of pretty much everyone at this point. Especially at mid, I don’t think there’s a lot of good options.

    This time last year ppl were happy to spend 20k more on Liam Knight
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    Post by Ponga Yeo the Mann Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:04 am

    We have officially reached the overthinking phase of pre-season

    Uto’s main strengths as a pick: age rule and likely progression, eye test (origin next few years IMO), slim pickings in MID, and best forward at a crap team means his role should be ok. Worst case he only gains a few points. Best case he gets 55. Epitome of the fantasy gambles we have to make. Don’t overthink it

    While I’m here why do you all rate peachey so much. Fantasy goggles big time. There’s a reason he’s cheap in still no one wanted him
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:06 am

    Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:While I’m here why do you all rate peachey so much. Fantasy goggles big time. There’s a reason he’s cheap in still no one wanted him

    I have been saying this for years, but he runs around in circles scoring junk fantasy points and people think he's a good player.
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    Post by robelgordo Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:07 am

    The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:
    What’s your guess then as to why a cover up like this was kept so quiet and such a tiny fine was the only penalty?

    I know Walsh did something technically criminal, but he and his club were transparent and genuinely remorseful. Yet if he’d denied wrongdoing and pretended it was wizz fizz in a baggie he’d have copped the same punishment.

    I feel more uncomfortable with how Teddy and Roosters have played this out over the last three months. But he’ll be Rooster captain and great role model, R1.

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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:10 am

    robelgordo wrote:

    I know Walsh did something technically criminal, but he and his club were transparent and genuinely remorseful. Yet if he’d denied wrongdoing and pretended it was wizz fizz in a baggie he’d have copped the same punishment.

    I feel more uncomfortable with how Teddy and Roosters have played this out over the last three months. But he’ll be Rooster captain and great role model, R1.

    I think you forgot the family man bit too!

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