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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 6 - I can't (C) Cleary now his shoulder's gone

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    Post by Shady2K Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:57 pm

    G'day lads, good to be back for the new season

    Cleary news throws a bit of a spanner but at least there'll be a mix up in teams

    There's a few options that I think pick themselves: Randall, Haas (especially with Cleary now out), Schneider, Ilias, Critta, probably Fifita

    Fermor/Nanai/Tuilagi will probably all be popular picks as starting edges at a cheap price point

    There's a few players I'm on the fence about that, some popular, some not, but each have some merit:

    Grant 697k, Mahoney 780k, Cook 767k: Not comfortable with only running Randall. Not keen on Clark, so need a good hooker. Grant out first week but back R2. Good value, only question is minutes/role? Cook is you get what you get, no real upside, might have more responsibility without Reynolds. Mahoney may score the most, but Eels bench is off-putting with Stone and Arthur on there. Think he needs to play 70-80 every week to be worth it at his price. With his bad shoulders and if Eels are winning comfortably, he may be the first one getting an early shower.
    Ryan Papenhuyzen 600k: We all know what he's capable of. The injury cloud really bothers me despite him being named. And Storm don't play early either. Worth the risk? They're playing Tigers first up so they don't exactly NEED him either lol
    Andrew Fifita 240k: Former gun at this price AND looked good in trials? Almost too good to be true, but will he be left right out once McInnes is back? McInnes > 13. Finucane > prop, which then pushes BHU or Rudolf to the bench and someone out? Graham also to return as well?
    Teig Wilton 484k: Related to above. Priced at 39 and averages 54 in 80min edge games. A 4 forward bench is off putting, and then Graham to return in a month or so too, is he worth the pick up at his price to maybe gain 80k then get punted? Maybe more so for the points, but there's also Fermor/Nanai/Tuilagi as cheaper edge options
    Jake Clifford 521k: Huge km, goal kicker, decent running game. Could be a goer? Think he meets the 'no shit players in your squad' factor though
    Shaun Johnson 544k: For only 23k more than Clifford... priced at 44. Surely he can get mid 50s? Will he be goal kicking or will that be Walsh when he's back in Round 2? Will he get bulk kicks next to Nikorima?
    Toby Sexton 600k: Probably kicks everything next to Brimson, goals, running with Fifita, decent team, can he elevate to gun status? He's very young and not the cheapest though, but do like him as an option
    Talatau Amone 350k: Could score a 20 one week and 50 the next. Second fiddle to Hunt for sure and probably a low base, if he was a bit cheaper it'd be a no brainer but his price is a bit awkward


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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:58 pm

    FalconSloth wrote:What are the 240k/220k options this year? They seem pretty scarce
    Not many. Schiller you can’t go Kris will be back he has Covid. Vailea could be worth a punt but who knows.

    Leo Thompson trap Sue and Jones will be back soon.
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    Post by Joey Superior Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:58 pm

    so is paps in or out?
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:59 pm

    Alright first Cleary-less team...

    Once again still risking it with the hooker position and not running cover yet because I don't really like any hooker options.

    Should be able to see the team in my team tracker, let me know your thoughts lads always helpful to me! Cheers Beer
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    Post by Regulator Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:59 pm

    ytsb wrote:

    Thoughts on Collins Rhino? I think it's likely that we see SST subbing on for JWH. Collins looks primed for a 60 min role, but could just as easily play 50. No Liu has increased Collins stocks

    Collins a wait and see for me. They might not overload him at first, and I doubt they'll need to.
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    Post by King Assassin Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:59 pm

    Upvote: Coates
    Downvote: Russell and bank the spare cash
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:59 pm

    This year I'm just going to choose players I want, not follow the herd. If it is a total fuck up, so be it.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:00 pm

    Khany wrote:This year I'm just going to choose players I want, not follow the herd. If it is a total fuck up, so be it.

    Pretty much impossible to follow any herd with the Cleary news
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:02 pm

    ytsb wrote:I know absolutely nothing about the warriors. Is the bench conducive to Katoa's minutes?

    Also, are we banking on Proctor playing in the middle for the titans? Fermor's my fave behind Katoa.
    Hey mate my concern with the Warriors is 4 forwards on the bench. B. Sironen could come on to the edge or lock and Curran goes to edge. Like Katoa might just get around 60mins. Not sure he’s worth it for that.

    Re the Titans I think Fermor will play very close to 80mins.

    Also mate your thoughts on Billy Smith please and any other Roosters fans? How far away is Suaali and does he come back via NSW Cup?
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    Post by StuDogg101 Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:03 pm

    Spoiler:
    I'm very tempted by Sexton. In fact, without Cleary I think I'll be running Sexton/SJ or Sexton/Hunt. Clifford is a wait and see for me


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    Post by ytsb Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:04 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Hey mate my concern with the Warriors is 4 forwards on the bench. B. Sironen could come on to the edge or lock and Curran goes to edge. Like Katoa might just get around 60mins. Not sure he’s worth it for that.

    Re the Titans I think Fermor will play very close to 80mins.

    Also mate your thoughts on Billy Smith please and any other Roosters fans? How far away is Suaali and does he come back via NSW Cup?

    Smith is a no go. It looks like his injuries have essentially fucked his career. Us buying momo has destroyed his prospects. Momo 3 year deal, Manu until the end of 2025.
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    Post by wolfking Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:04 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Idk how people can look at a Cowboys bench with three middles and Cotter, with a lock who plays 60 minutes, and think 80 minutes for Robson

    Yeah, gone cold on him already.
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:06 pm

    StuDogg101 wrote:

    I'm very tempted by Sexton. In fact, without Cleary I think I'll be running Sexton/SJ or Sexton/Hunt. Clifford is a wait and see for me

    I've gone both Sexton and Clifford as my starting halves. Want to halves who will dominate the kicking and goalkick too. Brings me up to 4 goalkickers with them two plus Hynes/Pap

    Oh and also Schneider if he kicks goals too.
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    Post by Shady2K Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:06 pm

    StuDogg101 wrote:

    I'm very tempted by Sexton. In fact, without Cleary I think I'll be running Sexton/SJ or Sexton/Hunt. Clifford is a wait and see for me

    Ben Hunt is also one I'm interested in. He'll be kicking the piss out of the ball and think he's in for a good season (and Dragons in general). Origin is a turn off though which is why I'm liking SJ and Sexton as options
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    Post by Mulvy Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:07 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Idk how people can look at a Cowboys bench with three middles and Cotter, with a lock who plays 60 minutes, and think 80 minutes for Robson

    Agreed, max 65. Payten also said "JTB will get a nice chunk (of minutes) in the first half and come back on in the second half". I'm thinking at least 45 for him. Lolo 60, Hess 40, McLean 35, Luki 60, Nanai 75, Cotter 50 (I reckon he comes on at 30 minutes and plays out the game with him spelling Robson via the prop rotation), Dunn 25, Gilbert 30 (10 middle, 20 Luki's edge, occasionally Nanai's edge. We're over subscribed 5 minutes. Don't know where the other 15 for Robson comes from.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:07 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Suaalii will replace either Smith or Momo when he's fit

    Hey, @rabbits21, predictions for Souths pack/bench minutes (specifically Arrow?)

    Hey mate well it seems Hame Sele is injured again not sure on severity but he and Jed always in the casualty ward. Liam Knight out til round 4 or 5 too then would come back via reserve grade I think take no notice of him in jersey 20. But yeah look at our bench there is only one prop in Tom.

    When Host comes on I think Arrow will move to middle. Tatola, Nicholls and Tom don’t play more than 40-45mins. Keaon will play 80mins. Murray I don’t think plays more than 55-60mins coming back from his shoulder big surgery we won’t burn him out we will manage his loads. I don’t think Havili and Chee Kam play more than 20-25mins.

    In summary I’ll be very shocked if Arrow doesn’t get 60mins. I just can’t see a way he plays less. First 25mins on edge then Host comes on plays game out.
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    Post by King Assassin Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:08 pm

    Looking at Sloans stats. he missed a shit tonne of tackles last year, to the point were it almost cancels out his try points. Hes a full back surely his missed tackles a next to none this year?
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    Post by ytsb Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:09 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:

    Hey mate well it seems Hame Sele is injured again not sure on severity but he and Jed always in the casualty ward. Liam Knight out til round 4 or 5 too then would come back via reserve grade I think take no notice of him in jersey 20. But yeah look at our bench there is only one prop in Tom.

    When Host comes on I think Arrow will move to middle. Tatola, Nicholls and Tom don’t play more than 40-45mins. Keaon will play 80mins. Murray I don’t think plays more than 55-60mins coming back from his shoulder big surgery we won’t burn him out we will manage his loads. I don’t think Havili and Chee Kam play more than 20-25mins.

    In summary I’ll be very shocked if Arrow doesn’t get 60mins. I just can’t see a way he plays less. First 25mins on edge then Host comes on plays game out.

    You may have convinced me. You are the rabbits specialist, although I remember your blunder with Kaloa last year Banned
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    Post by Regulator Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:09 pm

    I'm on board with the mentioned Sexton/Hunt combo just because that's the hottest halves pairing name I can think of.
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    Post by Shady2K Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:10 pm

    Any Warriors fans got more insight on SJ? Reckon he'll be the main kicker in general play and goal kicker over Nikorima and Walsh?

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