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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 12 - The first rule of trade club is, we only trade CTRs

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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:30 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    I was on Martin most of preseason but went off after digging into the stats
    Priced pretty much at his long term second row average he just happened to score a try this week
    Not a keeper, not a cow

    Haha I guess the same could be said of Clifford or Sexton for a little more. No downgrade material makes upgrading Welch impossible so I’m stuck hoping on midrangers
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    Post by Honey Badger Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:32 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:

    Clark sucks (very poor PPM)

    Wilton has Wade Graham who will push him off the edge in round 6

    Basically choose how much upside you want and which position you want when comparing the remaining three

    Hammer has high upside but a very low floor and is in a weak team

    Gilbert has a high floor if he keeps his role, but there are threats to his job security there

    Martin has the best job security out of the three, high upside and a decent floor, plus will be running off Cleary when he's back.

    Will need Cowboys fans to confirm but isnt Gilbert highly rated at the club. Last season he fractured his leg in preseason and that put him back a bit. Not sure who would take his edge spot?
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    Post by manlybeaver Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:33 pm

    Teeth Eater wrote:

    I'm interested in this discussion because I'm in a similar but far worse situation than both you guys, lol.

    @danseels1985 I'd personally be holding that team. You have all the good cows covered so I'd do as a few other guys have mentioned, and wait for a decent option for the Vailea trade. No rush. Wouldn't be trading Mahoney out for Arrow and not sure J.King is anywhere near that essential to warrant a move like that.

    I agree Arrow looked the goods last week, but anyone remember he killed it first round last year, a bunch of folk jumped on him and he failed to impress? Completely aware that it's a different scenario this year, with a locked down starting position. I'd love to have him in my team, but would be hesitant to make big moves to make it happen.

    @White Lightning, I probably like that move a bit better as it's arguable that Crichton/Arrow could possibly score similar in a similar role, and it allows you to add Tago to the equation, which is a significant addition. Still not sure about trading Crichton out, but I can see the appeal. And it's closer to my situation in that I have actually considered a Teddy to Ponga downgrade to possibly facilitate a move to pick up one of the countless cows I missed. But in conclusion, if I were you, I'd probably just call Tago the one that got away and leave the Vailea trade, as above, for a better cow. I'm assuming you have all other cows covered and Tago was the only good one you missed?  

    Anyway, for anyone interested, would be curious to hear any recommended surgical procedures they'd recommend for this trainwreck. I have my trades locked in but I am 110% sure no one would do what I'm doing, lol. So curious to hear if anyone has any thoughts on this mess-

    Grant
    Haas / Bullemor / M.King
    D.Fifita / Tuilagi
    Clifford / Mann
    Burton / Bird
    Teddy / Pappy / Hynes

    Randall / Walters / Billy Smith / Schnieder
    Ilias / A.Fifita / Russell / Vailea

    17K ITB

    Without going into the gory details, my current plans is to trade Russell and Vailea to the two most likely cheapies I can afford that I hope and pray will make me some kind of coin. Because I've missed out on so many cows, I feel like I can't afford to have two red dots as I wait for better cows, and I need to get any kind of money making happening asap. So that's my plan.

    I'm curious, though. Would the bolder players out there cut one of my "guns" (Teddy?) and swap him & Valiea out for either Ponga & Nanai/Tago/S.Crichton, or would you trade out a a "gun" like Teddy & Vailea for two missed cows out of Nanai/S.Crichton/Tago?

    Genuinely curious to hear what people would do with this trainwreck, as I have arguably put myself in a worse position than almost anyone here, I dare say?


    Bird to tago
    Vailea to nanai
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    Post by Revraiser Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:35 pm

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Kinda tempted by Jaxson to solidify my CTR/WFB too. Pretty impressive score at his price in a game where they only scored 4 points. Volatile position I know but impressive work

    Solid cover sure, but his scores last two years very low. I'm taking a stab at Tom Yum from the Knights this week in the same possie, need a wfb and cover down the line plus gud odds to make coin short term unless he hits a wall.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:37 pm

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Haha I guess the same could be said of Clifford or Sexton for a little more. No downgrade material makes upgrading Welch impossible so I’m stuck hoping on midrangers

    I think Clifford and sexton both have more upside than Martin. I think sexton has keeper potential and Clifford could make some coin. Not sure there is enough for Clifford to make 150k but will bank some handy points in the mean time
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:39 pm

    Revraiser wrote:

    Solid cover sure, but his scores last two years very low. I'm taking a stab at Tom Yum from the Knights this week in the same possie, need a wfb and cover down the line plus gud odds to make coin short term unless he hits a wall.

    It’s more of a luxury trade as it gives me a little freedom to move some players around which I don’t really need to do to be fair.

    I wish you luck, but pricey for me. Hope he goes well for you.
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    Post by Mr Snrub Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:39 pm

    It's funny, I've always traded after R1 but this might be the one year I don't simply because there's fuck all choices to go with.

    I went with Billy Smith to start instead of Tuilagi lol and I don't have enough cash to do that swap. I have to play one of Ilias or Amone plus all my looping options either scored 22 and under or are playing off the bench like Walters.

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    Post by samaael Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:39 pm

    Hi everyone,
    Really want Vailea out. Thoughts on Will Smith? Playing for overall/ plays first bye round. Cant get Tago with the single trade.

    Or something to the effect off: stefano and Vailea out for Katoa and Tago

    I have Ilias, B. Walters, Vailea and Schneider

    If I make no trades; i will be looping Ilias or A.Fifita


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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:41 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    I think Clifford and sexton both have more upside than Martin. I think sexton has keeper potential and Clifford could make some coin. Not sure there is enough for Clifford to make 150k but will bank some handy points in the mean time

    I’m just not 100% sold on Sexton otherwise I’d grab him and hopefully solidify my HLFs, would hate to have to purposefully play Ilias/Amone
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:43 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    I think Clifford and sexton both have more upside than Martin. I think sexton has keeper potential and Clifford could make some coin. Not sure there is enough for Clifford to make 150k but will bank some handy points in the mean time

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there was late switch of Martin to prop, Sorensen to edge and Leniu to bench which happened last year

    Leniu just doesn’t have a big motor and will probably just get similar 25-35 mins
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    Post by Loomer Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:45 pm

    samaael wrote:Hi everyone,
    Really want Vailea out. Thoughts on Will Smith? Playing for overall/ plays first bye round. Cant get Tago with the single trade.

    Or something to the effect off: stefano and Vailea out for Katoa and Tago

    I have Ilias, B. Walters, Vailea and Schneider

    If I make no trades; i will be looping Ilias or A.Fifita

    Will Smith could disappear from 17 for Tanah Boyd at some stage is my thought
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    Post by Fortitude Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:48 pm

    Mr Snrub wrote:It's funny, I've always traded after R1 but this might be the one year I don't simply because there's fuck all choices to go with.  

    I went with Billy Smith to start instead of Tuilagi lol and I don't have enough cash to do that swap. I have to play one of Ilias or Amone plus all my looping options either scored 22 and under or are playing off the bench like Walters.  


    Agree, no real options I’m thrilled with, figured I’ll just save trades and have another look
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    I’m hosting the discord Late Mail Crew pod tonight about to start, pod should be up by tomrrow morning you can listen on Spotify I’m pretty sure just search NRL Fantasy Late Mail Crew.
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:53 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    Revraiser wrote:Why don't some players have headshots in the app. Effing annoying!

    Not sure an exploding head feature pic is the best use of app funding mate....

    Laugh 3 this took me longer than it should have.
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:56 pm

    Thoughts on buying Ponga? I just had a second look at his round 1 score and he got to 50 without doing that much, seems like having the captaincy has given him more motivation to get involved, and with Gagai there on the right, he doesn't exclusively go left anymore. Getting Ponga would also mean my WFB is effectively locked in until I can get Turbo, since I also have Teddy and Papy.

    Option 1: Cheese to Ponga, hold Vailea and Russell

    Option 2: Cheese to Ponga, Vailea to Fletcher Baker

    Option 3: Cheese to Ponga, Russell to Jaxson Paulo

    Option 4: Cheese to Martin, Vailea to Nanai (my original trades)
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    Post by Teeth Eater Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:13 pm

    manlybeaver wrote:


    Bird to tago
    Vailea to nanai

    Thanks mate. Don't mind. I did consider dumping Bird as he was the last one I brought in and the reason I put myself in this mess.

    But I'm so hesitant to trade out a keeper.

    I just have to ask myself if I am willing to get rid of Bird and then potentially see Tago and Nanai average 30s for the rest of the season, thus questioning if it was worthwhile. And I could ironically use of or both of them to bring Bird back in at some point.

    Alternatively, am I willing to sit back and watch Nanai and Tago potentially make a tonne of cash and Bird turns out to be a much weaker option than Aitken or even Lomax in the CTR position? Questions...

    samaael wrote:Hi everyone,
    Really want Vailea out. Thoughts on Will Smith? Playing for overall/ plays first bye round. Cant get Tago with the single trade.

    Or something to the effect off: stefano and Vailea out for Katoa and Tago

    I have Ilias, B. Walters, Vailea and Schneider

    If I make no trades; i will be looping Ilias or A.Fifita

    Seems like we have a few similar issues. I must be honest and say that if I had Stefano I would be more than happy to use him to bring in one of the missed cows, personally.

    I wouldn't go near Will Smith if I had the choice, personally. I should add that at this point in time I'm thinking of bringing him in, but I hate the idea - just possibly have no better options. My reasoning for him, despite everything against him, is Brimson's injury history and the possibility that Will Smith actually spends a bit of time in the halves this year.

    Bethany_B wrote:Thoughts on buying Ponga? I just had a second look at his round 1 score and he got to 50 without doing that much, seems like having the captaincy has given him more motivation to get involved, and with Gagai there on the right, he doesn't exclusively go left anymore. Getting Ponga would also mean my WFB is effectively locked in until I can get Turbo, since I also have Teddy and Papy.

    Option 1: Cheese to Ponga, hold Vailea and Russell

    Option 2: Cheese to Ponga, Vailea to Fletcher Baker

    Option 3: Cheese to Ponga, Russell to Jaxson Paulo

    Option 4: Cheese to Martin, Vailea to Nanai (my original trades)

    3 or 4 for me. Whichever suits the make-up of your team better, I guess? Not 100% sold on Martin, so I'd possibly lean towards #3?
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:13 pm

    King Assassin wrote:
    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:

    Will he average the 40+ needed to make the 150k is the question? I’m not overly sure he will

    ...... He scored 40 in base stats. He will do it easy, and hes on the panthers left edge.

    I know this will sound pedantic, not my intention mate, but 37 in base stats, and 29 of those tackles. That is an obscene amount for any Centre. Remains to be seen if he replicates it or if it is an outlier. Although he does look like even if he averages closer to 20 tackles he certainly has a lot more run metres in him to help balance out.

    I have massive TAGO FOMO but not sure I will bring him in.
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    Post by standard-issue Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:17 pm

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
    Welshy wrote:

    This is what I'm looking at. He really only needs another try or big game in next 3 fixtures and no duds to do it early

    He was extremley busy defending, on top of looking dangerous with ball in hand

    Yeah I suppose with Dragons, Knights, Rabbits and Dogs he will have ample opportunity to sneak over for another try and boost that cash flow

    The Draw in this case is a good point, something to consider.
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:23 pm

    Honey Badger wrote:

    Will need Cowboys fans to confirm but isnt Gilbert highly rated at the club. Last season he fractured his leg in preseason and that put him back a bit. Not sure who would take his edge spot?

    Everything prior to the TLT suggested Gilbert would be on an edge. Then they named both Luki and Nanai there so sort of assumed that they decided to go another way.

    Then pulled the late switch like perhaps they were planning it all along
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    Post by Lemmy KGB Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:24 pm

    Think I'll just get Tago and convince my brain I had him from the start.

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