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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 15 - dropping fantasy points for fun

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    Post by ShadowSabre Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:38 pm

    Ramitinmyhaaas wrote:Think imma trade Tuilagi -> Rjenno (assuming he gets the spot) which then frees up enough cash for Bully -> Starling

    Two trades I also lined up, also considering LThompson instead of Rjenn
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    Post by L-Jimmy Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:39 pm

    WT2K wrote:Hmmmm, seems like a bad idea but throwing it out there anyway....Mahoney to Starling to start that Cleary bank :thinking:

    Yeah, I looked at that one too. Mahoney's tackle count is way down, which I'm mentally putting up as a combination of lower general fitness decreasing tackle numbers overall and a slight shift in tactics towards the edges (suspect the two are linked).

    If the two are linked then the high middle tackled numbers will return as props build fitness.

    If they are not then it's perhaps a structural shift to a post-PVLBall strategy and Mahoney is overpriced.



    Either way, if Starling was in this position at year commence then I'd have start him over Mahoney.


    So Mahoney goes.


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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:40 pm

    White Lightning wrote:Would like to get Starling but Trevilyan played 23 mins leaving Starling only 57 mins. If it was 10/70 mins I'd be keener
    Is it possible that Starling spent pre season training with being backup in mind? Now that he’s been thrust into starting he may need to get the minutes into the legs before he can look at getting those bulk minutes?

    Edit: I have no idea how NRL preseason training is structured
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    Post by Mulvy Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:41 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    Poor bastard.

    Not sure if he's been mentioned but does that make Gilbert an option?

    Gilbert appears to have that hybrid role (to borrow a term from mattnz) of edge/middle, which was the same the first two weeks despite the scores varying wildly. So I don't think it affects him. He could score well, but 507k a tricky price particularly now he has bumped up his breakeven with last weeks 24. Probably helps cement JTB in the middle if the injury doesn't set him back to much. Probably some more game time for Neame, but unlikely enough to be able to pick him at 397k.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:42 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    I was being a smartass lol.
    Oh shit 😂
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:42 pm

    Mahoney to Starling would certainly provide a great cash injection. Mahoney scored 36 round 1 & without the try in round 2 low 40's & this is in 80 mins. Starling plays 57 mins round 2 & nearly matches Mahoney at a 289k lower price. Se how I'm talking myself into this lol.
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    Post by wolfking Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:44 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    Gilbert appears to have that hybrid role (to borrow a term from mattnz) of edge/middle, which was the same the first two weeks despite the scores varying wildly. So I don't think it affects him. He could score well, but 507k a tricky price particularly now he has bumped up his breakeven with last weeks 24. Probably helps cement JTB in the middle if the injury doesn't set him back to much. Probably some more game time for Neame, but unlikely enough to be able to pick him at 397k.

    I need to work on my delivery of sarcasm it seems.
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    Post by mattnz Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:45 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    Gilbert appears to have that hybrid role (to borrow a term from mattnz) of edge/middle, which was the same the first two weeks despite the scores varying wildly. So I don't think it affects him. He could score well, but 507k a tricky price particularly now he has bumped up his breakeven with last weeks 24. Probably helps cement JTB in the middle if the injury doesn't set him back to much. Probably some more game time for Neame, but unlikely enough to be able to pick him at 397k.

    No his role was very different between the 2 weeks;
    Week 1 - Luki comes on after 28 minutes, Gilbert moves into MID
    Week 2 - Gilbert looks to be pacing himself to play big minutes in the MID, but Luki doesnt come on for 57 minutes
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:46 pm

    L-Jimmy wrote:

    Yeah, I looked at that one too. Mahoney's tackle count is way down, which I'm mentally putting up as a combination of lower general fitness decreasing tackle numbers overall and a slight shift in tactics towards the edges (suspect the two are linked).

    If the two are linked then the high middle tackled numbers will return as props build fitness.

    If they are not then it's perhaps a structural shift to a post-PVLBall strategy and Mahoney is overpriced.



    Either way, if Starling was in this position at year commence then I'd have start him over Mahoney.


    So Mahoney goes.



    That's my thinking at the moment. If Starling was in the position R1 I'd def gone that way as well
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:48 pm

    WT2K wrote:

    That's my thinking at the moment. If Starling was in the position R1 I'd def gone that way as well

    What do you reckon about a Tulagi trade out mate?
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:49 pm


    BEs for this week.

    9598 points this week. slightly up on last week, but still massively down compared to last 2 years, so MN still up there at 13,851

    Expect that to drop in coming weeks, but probably not as far as 2021 levels.

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    Post by Milchcow Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:53 pm

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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:00 pm

    We have been saying how Mahoney is suffering from a low tackle count well he should make plenty of tackles against the Storm. Do we like this narrative.
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    Post by Aardvark Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:02 pm

    WT2K wrote:Hmmmm, seems like a bad idea but throwing it out there anyway....Mahoney to Starling to start that Cleary bank 🤔

    I’ve already had a look at what my bank account looks like with that trade
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    Post by EJ24 Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:05 pm

    Many holes in the ship to plug this week. Bullemore, Stefano and Mann on the chopping block this week in that order. Praying to the tlt gods for some joy.

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    Post by Mulvy Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:09 pm

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    No his role was very different between the 2 weeks;

    If you say so. He played 75 minutes one week and 74 the next. Both spent part middle, part edge. Both weeks there was an injury. I'm not talking about the specifics of who comes on when, because it's impossible, that will be decided by game flow and injuries. I'm saying he'll get good minutes most weeks split between edge and middle.
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    Post by Chewie Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:10 pm

    WT2K wrote:Hmmmm, seems like a bad idea but throwing it out there anyway....Mahoney to Starling to start that Cleary bank 🤔

    Yeah, I've done some calculations and Mahoney to Starling gives me enough cash in the bank to get Cleary in with a double trade next week.
    Not super keen on Starling, but should make some coin and provide and extra body for rd 13.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:12 pm

    The problem is Payten & how he likes to chop & change & tell fibs like Lolo is in for big minutes...I don't think 53 mins are big mins.
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:13 pm


    Paul Carter award being resurrected for 2022 after an amazing week for not scoring fantasy points

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    Post by mattnz Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:15 pm

    Mulvy wrote:

    If you say so. He played 75 minutes one week and 74 the next. Both spent part middle, part edge. Both weeks there was an injury. I'm not talking about the specifics of who comes on when, because it's impossible, that will be decided by game flow and injuries. I'm saying he'll get good minutes most weeks split between edge and middle.

    The difference is:
    - 28 mins EDG, 47 mins MID; vs
    - 52 mins EDG, 22 mins MID.
    Over twice the time spent in the middle made a huge difference in the scoring.

    Arrow was similar, with much less time in the MID week 2, which also reflected in his scoring difference.

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