NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 36 - Battle of Hastings...Jazz vs Cheese

Rabbits21 wrote:I’m doing Randall to Hastings.

Would you recommend Mann to Lolo/TPJ or Mann to Talakai for the cash grab?

If you're getting Talakai for a cash grab it implies you'll be selling him soon... hoping he has a few more decent games in a row and you can jump off him at 800-850k to an iPap/DCE type? Because he *will* peak then go down - possibly within a few weeks - and if it's a cash grab you'll have to sell the high for there to be any advantage.

Don't mind it if you've saved lots of trades already, but Lolo or TPJ will probably score you more actual points (unless you think Talakai is going to sustain current scoring).

Rabbits21 wrote:
Out of these 3 mate would you get Talakai for the cash grab or grab Lolo or TPJ?

I loved talakai at the price I got him, and consider him a keeper now so won’t realise that cash making most likely,

I’d prefer Lolo over TPj but that’s only because I prefer consistent scoring, think tpj will be a bit more boom and bust, 70+ one week and 35 another, think their averages will be much for muchness, one thing though is that Lolo plays in a much better side and can add a few attacking stats, whereas I think the bulldogs are gonna remain pretty crap and TPJ can go completely off the rails

I’m not as high on talakai as everyone else but I have that luxury being one of the first to own him and having garnered 250k and a shit load of points, if he ends up stringing a load of 35-45 point games together I’m not concerned, whereas trading him now and him underperforming (a real possibility) would be very annoying

That said the high of owning talakai during that first half against manly was remarkable

That’s my assessment won’t choose for you, trust your gut, all 3 are good options

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:

General consensus is everyone is hot on him

(Have traded him in myself)

Has lots of touches 30 more per game than the next person, running style lends its self to tackle breaks and offloads and does enough kicking to get points

Very popular trade in this week amongst forum dwellers

Thanks mate, thought that might be the case.

TU: Lolo
TD: Talakai

Just out of interest guys that are buying Talakai this week planning on selling him when he peaks?
If he ends up averaging 45-50 wouldn't you want to keep him as your keeper ctr?

Honey Badger wrote:Just out of interest guys that are buying Talakai this week planning on selling him when he peaks?
If he ends up averaging 45-50 wouldn't you want to keep him as your keeper ctr?

There's 3 groups from what I've seen:

1) The people who think he averages much higher, so they intend to hold.
2) The people who think he averages his current price so are doing a hit and run, they will be selling short term.
3) The people who haven't thought that far ahead and play fantasy on a week-by-week basis.

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Percy wrote:

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Might be the first confirmed Filth alt

My thought of possibly bringing in Talakai is because my Penisini/Tago combo may not be sustainable long term and my only cover for them is Koula atm. Can’t do it in a single trade from Mann or Randall but could bring in Hastings for one of them to enable it.
TU:Double trade in Talakai and Hastings for Mann or Randall
TD:Single trade Mann for Hastings/Tevaga

danseels1985 wrote:My thought of possibly bringing in Talakai is because my Penisini/Tago combo may not be sustainable long term and my only cover for them is Koula atm. Can’t do it in a single trade from Mann or Randall but could bring in Hastings for one of them to enable it.
TU:Double trade in Talakai and Hastings for Mann or Randall
TD:Single trade Mann for Hastings/Tevaga

talakai + Hastings for Randall and Mann seems like a significant upgrade at this point

What are peoples thoughts on Suaalii?
I feel he's ready to go on a run, the roosters will get it together at some stage, could be against the doggies this week.
was gonna bring on koula with cleary this week but feel Suaalii can be played at WFB3 instead of Taaffe.
Am not convinced on Koula's JS
TU Wilton & Randell to Cleary & Suaalii
TD Mann & Randell to Cleary & Koula

Snatchpato wrote:
There's 3 groups from what I've seen:

1) The people who think he averages much higher, so they intend to hold.  
2) The people who think he averages his current price so are doing a hit and run, they will be selling short term.
3) The people who haven't thought that far ahead and play fantasy on a week-by-week basis.

4) The people who think he has a couple of lower scores, makes some money, but hurts your points.

SoylentGreen wrote:

4) The people who think he has a couple of lower scores, makes some money, but hurts your points.

Yeah, that's a pretty substantial, sensible group. But he did ask about people who are bringing Talakai in, and the Group 4 Talakai Truthers won't be doing that.

SoylentGreen wrote:

4) The people who think he has a couple of lower scores, makes some money, but hurts your points.

5) The people who were close to buying 3 weeks ago and last week but didn't and are now taking him as insurance

I know who I want in but I can’t figure out who I want out. Or mostly who I want out the most. Mann, Burton, Nanai, Josh King and got some plodders in Thompson and Walters who I can’t really trade out. Wilton will be an easy one if he is out tonight and I have Randall but haven’t really considered him as he has been constantly getting around 50 until last week. My initial thought is Mann + Nanai. I don’t like the thought of Burton losing cash quickly but his pedigree makes it hard for me to get rid of him.

FalconSloth wrote:I know who I want in but I can’t figure out who I want out. Or mostly who I want out the most. Mann, Burton, Nanai, Josh King and got some plodders in Thompson and Walters who I can’t really trade out. Wilton will be an easy one if he is out tonight and I have Randall but haven’t really considered him as he has been constantly getting around 50 until last week. My initial thought is Mann + Nanai. I don’t like the thought of Burton losing cash quickly but his pedigree makes it hard for me to get rid of him.

I should have stuck with 1 trade Burton to Talakai last week but made no trades so now I think I'll just hold Burton and hope he makes up his losses in long run

If you've got Talakai before now, well done, you've won points and value.

But *now*? He's $676k. There are five players within 5k of that price: Taumalolo, TPJ, Talakai, BHunt, Lucy. Would be shocked if Talakai doesn't have the lowest average of those five between now and the end of the season.

Two possible reasons to get him...1) cash play for three weeks to sell at peak with three-figure profit if you've banked loads of trades or are desperate for cash gen. 2) Possible keeper centre, but in a year where most actually have decent centres already, and he'll be available for this price or less at some stage in an up-and-down position.

tl/dr pass

Honey Badger wrote:Just out of interest guys that are buying Talakai this week planning on selling him when he peaks?
If he ends up averaging 45-50 wouldn't you want to keep him as your keeper ctr?

If he averages 50 going forward (23 less than current average at CTR this season), he is about $20k underpriced and would be a CTR keeper.

rhinoceroo wrote:If you've got Talakai before now, well done, you've won points and value.

But *now*? He's $676k. There are five players within 5k of that price: Taumalolo, TPJ, Talakai, BHunt, Lucy. Would be shocked if Talakai doesn't have the lowest average of those five between now and the end of the season.

Two possible reasons to get him...1) cash play for three weeks to sell at peak with three-figure profit if you've banked loads of trades or are desperate for cash gen. 2) Possible keeper centre, but in a year where most actually have decent centres already, and he'll be available for this price or less at some stage in an up-and-down position.

tl/dr pass

I'd back Teddy to average higher (and maybe score more total points) for 60k less

mattnz wrote:

If he averages 50 going forward (23 less than current average at CTR this season), he is about $20k underpriced and would be a CTR keeper.

How many centres (playing at centre, not 2rf) have averaged 50 for a  season? 2019 Latrell is the best I can think of, and he still didn't.

Edit: and in averaging 49 in 2019, Latrell still had almost a quarter of his scores under 40.

rhinoceroo wrote:If you've got Talakai before now, well done, you've won points and value.

But *now*? He's $676k. There are five players within 5k of that price: Taumalolo, TPJ, Talakai, BHunt, Lucy. Would be shocked if Talakai doesn't have the lowest average of those five between now and the end of the season.

Two possible reasons to get him...1) cash play for three weeks to sell at peak with three-figure profit if you've banked loads of trades or are desperate for cash gen. 2) Possible keeper centre, but in a year where most actually have decent centres already, and he'll be available for this price or less at some stage in an up-and-down position.

tl/dr pass

Think this is a pretty reasonable take, he’s hella expensive now and although he’s gunned it so far there’s no long term history of it,

I got him early so if he averages lower next few matches no disaster but transferring him in for a load of 30/40s would be devastating

Im less confident he continues with huge performances and scores the more he’s hyped up and on everyone’s radar, Brisbane must have a plan to shut him down