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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:27 am

    Monty_Burns wrote:What are peoples thoughts on Suaalii?
    I feel he's ready to go on a run, the roosters will get it together at some stage, could be against the doggies this week.
    was gonna bring on koula with cleary this week but feel Suaalii can be played at WFB3 instead of Taaffe.
    Am not convinced on Koula's JS
    TU Wilton & Randell to Cleary & Suaalii
    TD Mann & Randell to Cleary & Koula

    Dont like the Suaalii trade in. Would have to be the most over-rated young player we have seen in years. The most special thing he has done on the field was a tackle last week. At this early stage of his career he doesn't look to be fantasy relevant. Koula should score at least as well for a much lower cost.

    From comments made by Fitz, Wilton isn't the one Graham replaces. Said he didnt want to make changes on that side as they are playing so well together (mentioned Wilton by name as being a key part of that side at the time). Wilton is likely a hold until round 17.
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    Post by Snatchpato Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:29 am

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    How many centres (playing at centre, not 2rf) have averaged 50 for a  season? 2019 Latrell is the best I can think of, and he still didn't.

    Edit: and in averaging 49 in 2019, Latrell still had almost a quarter of his scores under 40.

    Yeah but Latrell ever get a banner playing at CTR?

    Oh wait
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:29 am

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    How many centres (playing at centre, not 2rf) have averaged 50 for a  season? 2019 Latrell is the best I can think of, and he still didn't.

    He averaged 49.6 at centre (taken out some low-scoring games at 5/8th)... but with 8.5 points in GKs, 3.5 TBs and 1 offload per week. So in new scoring and like-for-like he averaged under 40.
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    Post by Snatchpato Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:31 am

    GarethEllisismyDad wrote:

    Think this is a pretty reasonable take, he’s hella expensive now and although he’s gunned it so far there’s no long term history of it,

    I got him early so if he averages lower next few matches no disaster but transferring him in for a load of 30/40s would be devastating

    Im less confident he continues with huge performances and scores the more he’s hyped up and on everyone’s radar, Brisbane must have a plan to shut him down
    Yep, you're a genius if you got him last week (or in your case weeks earlier), but bringing him now is almost the opposite of the sunk cost fallacy. Sure if you are going for a mid-range cash cow Strat, all power to ya, but for people bringing a 676k ctr keeper in? Yikes.

    Spend the money elsewhere.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:35 am

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    How many centres (playing at centre, not 2rf) have averaged 50 for a  season? 2019 Latrell is the best I can think of, and he still didn't.

    Edit: and in averaging 49 in 2019, Latrell still had almost a quarter of his scores under 40.

    He is playing better than any CTR we have seen, averaging in 4 rounds at CTR over 20 points more than any CTR ever has. When talking about his performances on tv, they are saying the most recent comparison they have is Mal Meninga and even then Talakai can do things he couldn't.

    People seem to be hung up on his position, not how he is playing and the impact he is having on the team every week. If he ends up averaging 55-60 he is head and shoulders above the next best CTR and still massively underpriced.

    Last season we saw both Cleary, Turbo and Fifita break the ceiling of what we thought was possible in their positions. No reason Talakai can't this year at CTR.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:38 am

    mattnz wrote:

    He is playing better than any CTR we have seen

    Are you ok?
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    Post by SoylentGreen Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:38 am

    mattnz wrote:

    He is playing better than any CTR we have seen, averaging in 4 rounds at CTR over 20 points more than any CTR ever has. When talking about his performances on tv, they are saying the most recent comparison they have is Mal Meninga and even then Talakai can do things he couldn't.

    People seem to be hung up on his position, not how he is playing and the impact he is having on the team every week. If he ends up averaging 55-60 he is head and shoulders above the next best CTR and still massively underpriced.

    Last season we saw both Cleary, Turbo and Fifita break the ceiling of what we thought was possible in their positions. No reason Talakai can't this year at CTR.

    Talakai better than Meninga.

    That'll do me.
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    Post by FalconSloth Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:38 am

    I don’t understand the urgency to trade out randall has been scoring around 50 and then gets one low score.
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    Post by Monty_Burns Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:38 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Dont like the Suaalii trade in. Would have to be the most over-rated young player we have seen in years. The most special thing he has done on the field was a tackle last week. At this early stage of his career he doesn't look to be fantasy relevant. Koula should score at least as well for a much lower cost.

    From comments made by Fitz, Wilton isn't the one Graham replaces. Said he didnt want to make changes on that side as they are playing so well together (mentioned Wilton by name as being a key part of that side at the time). Wilton is likely a hold until round 17.

    fair enough comments, I do prefer to hold Wilton which makes me hesitant on this trade.
    Suaalii is getting decent run meters and Roosters wingers have a history of scoring well though, it wont surprise me to see him go well this season.
    On the flip side he's still a pretty unknown quantity and the roosters haven't turned a corner yet
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    Post by GarethEllisismyDad Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:39 am

    mattnz wrote:

    He is playing better than any CTR we have seen, averaging in 4 rounds at CTR over 20 points more than any CTR ever has. When talking about his performances on tv, they are saying the most recent comparison they have is Mal Meninga and even then Talakai can do things he couldn't.

    People seem to be hung up on his position, not how he is playing and the impact he is having on the team every week.

    Last season we saw both Cleary, Turbo and Fifita break the ceiling of what we thought was possible in their positions. No reason Talakai can't this year at CTR.

    Live for this optimism and hope he does this,

    Cronulla play such good shape in their attacking footy they’ll give him chance to do well but I’ll be surprised if he does half as well tomorrow (tonight for you ozzies)

    What points are we predicting him?
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    Post by GarethEllisismyDad Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:40 am

    FalconSloth wrote:I don’t understand the urgency to trade out randall has been scoring around 50 and then gets one low score.

    I had hooker cover and the price was right to get a diff position, I’d have had no problem holding him
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    Post by SoylentGreen Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:40 am

    GarethEllisismyDad wrote:

    Live for this optimism and hope he does this,

    Cronulla play such good shape in their attacking  footy they’ll give him chance to do well but I’ll be surprised if he does half as well tomorrow (tonight for you ozzies)

    What points are we predicting him?

    Low 40s
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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:41 am

    SoylentGreen wrote:

    How many centres (playing at centre, not 2rf) have averaged 50 for a  season? 2019 Latrell is the best I can think of, and he still didn't.

    Edit: and in averaging 49 in 2019, Latrell still had almost a quarter of his scores under 40.

    You are comparing him to a recognized lazy player who gets by on talent, when he feels like getting involved.
    Talakai is averaging over 200 running meters and taking tough hit ups all the time out of their own end and then getting the rewards in attack close to the line. Has a huge work rate, combined with ability.
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    Post by wolfking Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:43 am

    mattnz wrote:

    He is playing better than any CTR we have seen, averaging in 4 rounds at CTR over 20 points more than any CTR ever has. When talking about his performances on tv, they are saying the most recent comparison they have is Mal Meninga and even then Talakai can do things he couldn't.

    People seem to be hung up on his position, not how he is playing and the impact he is having on the team every week. If he ends up averaging 55-60 he is head and shoulders above the next best CTR and still massively underpriced.

    Last season we saw both Cleary, Turbo and Fifita break the ceiling of what we thought was possible in their positions. No reason Talakai can't this year at CTR.

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    Post by SoylentGreen Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:43 am

    mattnz wrote:

    You are comparing him to a recognized lazy player who gets by on talent, when he feels like getting involved.
    Talakai is averaging over 200 running meters and taking tough hit ups all the time out of their own end and then getting the rewards in attack close to the line. Has a huge work rate, combined with ability.

    I'm comparing him with every high-scoring centre in recent memory (of which Latrell would be the highest). Manu is (IMO) the best centre in the competition, and he still doesn't score anywhere near a 55-60 average.
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    Post by wolfking Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:45 am

    mrbrownstone wrote:Been away for the week and haven't looked at much/any footy or read anything on here, just trying to catch up a bit tonight.

    What's the general consensus on Hastings around here?

    Without doing too much catching up, looking at Nanai to Hastings and maybe Randall to Starling, or Mann to Tevaga. Thoughts?

    I'm probably going Starling too mate. Annoyed I missed him early but plays 13 and looks like a keepr at $629. Hastings I think goes well too. I'm coming around to Tevaga though truthfully but think Hastings might be a better buy, but it's a coin flip.

    I'm probably ditching Mann and Randall, just to try and maximise my round 13 numbers and keep Nanai.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:47 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Are you ok?
    You disagree? Name a CTR you have seen play better in the last 20 years.
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    Post by wolfking Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:48 am

    FalconSloth wrote:I don’t understand the urgency to trade out randall has been scoring around 50 and then gets one low score.

    I thought that too then I looked at his scores. He's only had 3 scores above 50. I don't think he's an urgent trade out and probably pumps out a 50 this week but probably trading him myself.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:48 am

    mattnz wrote:

    You are comparing him to a recognized lazy player who gets by on talent, when he feels like getting involved.
    Talakai is averaging over 200 running meters and taking tough hit ups all the time out of their own end and then getting the rewards in attack close to the line. Has a huge work rate, combined with ability.

    How did that go in the second half last week, after Manly had made a couple of adjustments? (And before you say it, Cronulla still went left plenty, so don't blame Fitz)

    "Playing better than any centre we've ever seen". Jeez, reign it in a little if you want to be taken anywhere near seriously. History didn't begin in March.
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    Post by wolfking Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:48 am

    mattnz wrote:
    You disagree? Name a CTR you have seen play better in the last 20 years.

    It's been like 3 fucking games mate, just relax.

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