NRL Fantasy 2022 - Part 67 - Only two threads to go

robelgordo wrote:

My take - All the footy codes are going to eventually end up something more like OzTag, or risk being viewed as a curiousity/freakshow by the mainstream like boxing/UFC.

Well this is what I've said in the past, Oztag. And not being funny either, it slowly is happening. And by all means, maybe it should be the way we go, and its just the love of league that we grew up with that keeps us wanting more.

No Worries wrote:

There was a reason the NRL bought out Touch Football Australia. It's called the long game. Oz tag for the kids, Touch Footy for adults it's like the T20 version of rugby league. A 9's competition that runs all year.

See this being tussled over by fox and channel 9 etc down the line for coverage ?

robelgordo wrote:

Any details on what benefit this provides the Tigers?

Maybe once a team is mathematically eliminated from finals contention, there can be a draft to loan their players amongst the remaining teams.

Cap relief from ~25% of Nofo's contract. Rumoured to be 550k per season would be a saving of nearly 140k. When you can't make the finals and probably locked in for bottom 4 a small move like that can help next year. Might even make early release of Brooks a bit more palatable

Revraiser wrote:

Well this is what I've said in the past, Oztag. And not being funny either, it slowly is happening. And by all means, maybe it should be the way we go, and its just the love of league that we grew up with that keeps us wanting more.

All the footy codes have spent most of their existence getting progressively safer (look at scrums - even in union, they aren't "real" like they used to be) but this concussion stuff is no joke and I see it accelerating.

Having said that, it feels like under the current rules Finucane got suspended for Crichton having a gross ear. No head clash, and the hit is on the top 10 plays of the week. Think its pretty rough. Especially when the bunker in game said it wasn't even a penalty lol.

Pity RFM picked up that injury, what with Waddell suspended for what amounts to the rest of the season....wonder what the reshuffle is going to be?

Gee have plenty of options this week coming in with 580k ITB`.

Think the most sensible would be just using 2 trades and going:

Mam + Lee to Murray/Haas + Tedesco, though it leaves me with no hooker cover.

But using 3, and leaving one trade for the run home can get me either:

Mam + Lee + Manu to Cook + Fifita + Tedesco,

or Murray + Grant + Teddy

Very tempting...

robelgordo wrote:

All the footy codes have spent most of their existence getting progressively safer (look at scrums - even in union, they aren't "real" like they used to be) but this concussion stuff is no joke and I see it accelerating.

Having said that, it feels like under the current rules Finucane got suspended for Crichton having a gross ear. No head clash, and the hit is on the top 10 plays of the week. Think its pretty rough. Especially when the bunker in game said it wasn't even a penalty lol.

Semi-related to this - my kids school setup teams for an OzTag gala day (they don't do weekly PSSA sport, which is a whinge for another day, so this is a rare chance to play team sport for their school).

Anyway, the twins said one kid played rugby league outside school (he's half Polynesian) and they were the only other kids that knew the basic rules - I mean real basic, like how to play the ball and passing backwards. These are 8-9 year olds. Admittedly this is "woke" inner Sydney, but there's something in that. They can't play at school, they don't play or even watch outside, why is that? I'd say the safety reputation is a big part of it. Classism is probably another big part. Not sure what the NRL can do?

Lots of activity down at the training session at Cake Tiger Oval this morning. I reminded the religious-minded players about the Eleventh Commandment that we have at the Cake Tigers. It reads "Thou shalt not refuse to play for thine rugby league club, especially on homophobic grounds which you attempt to justify on the basis of spurious outdated religious beliefs". Koula was immediately traded out.

I've had a poor fantasy year, probably my worst ever - but we still have standards.

robelgordo wrote:

All the footy codes have spent most of their existence getting progressively safer (look at scrums - even in union, they aren't "real" like they used to be) but this concussion stuff is no joke and I see it accelerating.

Having said that, it feels like under the current rules Finucane got suspended for Crichton having a gross ear. No head clash, and the hit is on the top 10 plays of the week. Think its pretty rough. Especially when the bunker in game said it wasn't even a penalty lol.

Yeah as I initially said plus caveats I get the concussion thing. Just wondering what the answer is as Finucanes example is perfect, legal tackle yet still dangerous.

FaringdonSwirl wrote:Gee have plenty of options this week coming in with 580k ITB`.

Think the most sensible would be just using 2 trades and going:

Mam + Lee to Murray/Haas + Tedesco, though it leaves me with no hooker cover.

But using 3, and leaving one trade for the run home can get me either:

Mam + Lee + Manu to Cook + Fifita + Tedesco,

or Murray + Grant + Teddy

Very tempting...

Can I have Manu vs Manly if you don't want him? That's wild. He could be Roosters highest scorer vs half Manly second string

robelgordo wrote:

Semi-related to this - my kids school setup teams for an OzTag gala day (they don't do weekly PSSA sport, which is a whinge for another day, so this is a rare chance to play team sport for their school).

Anyway, the twins said one kid played rugby league outside school (he's half Polynesian) and they were the only other kids that knew the basic rules - I mean real basic, like how to play the ball and passing backwards. These are 8-9 year olds. Admittedly this is "woke" inner Sydney, but there's something in that. They can't play at school, they don't play or even watch outside, why is that? I'd say the safety reputation is a big part of it. Classism is probably another big part. Not sure what the NRL can do?

Without knowing the stats or even being in and around the space, that would have all sorts of reasons, the region, class as u said, plus maybe a slow drive to move away from the dangerous codes. It may well dwindle slowly, the overall participation and end of the line numbers.

Milchcow wrote:
if Nofo goes to the Storm, I'm out

Its not even mid-season, we're getting really close to finals. Players leaving shit clubs to go premiership chasing hurts the integrity of the competition more than any coloured jerseys or ref mistakes.

It was shit when TPJ went to the Panthers, and its shit if Nofo goes to the Storm. Its a terrible precedent and I worry that now every year the bottom clubs will offload a couple of players to strengthen the teams at the top.

I agree although it doesn't bother me that much, maybe because I just don't care enough anymore.

I mentioned a week ago re the possibility that Reece Walsh came to the Broncos earlier. That makes a little more sense as he's signed next season, but still, I'd rather it not happen. He can turn up in pre season and earn his stripes. The current squad has put in the work this year, let's play it out that way.

Nofo to the Storm sucks, really hate this trend.

Loomer wrote:

Can I have Manu vs Manly if you don't want him? That's wild. He could be Roosters highest scorer vs half Manly second string

You think he's going to get the touches at centre to go big? It's obviously possible, but I didn't think the Manly team looked that bad. I guess it is pretty bad in the areas Manu will be attacking.

I know the Finucane news was positive for McInness, but would you still do?

McInness - > Murray
Kennedy -> Mbye

Leaves 0k (which I'm taking as a sign), 3 trades, and this team:

Spoiler:

Those last 3 trades will be for injury, so accepting Cook and Teddy as the two mega-guns that I'll have to hide behind the couch for.

Revraiser wrote:

Without knowing the stats or even being in and around the space, that would have all sorts of reasons, the region, class as u said, plus maybe a slow drive to move away from the dangerous codes. It may well dwindle slowly, the overall participation and end of the line numbers.

Interesting discussion...I think the drive away from full contact sports is pretty strong in primary school. My daughters primary school is an interesting study in contradictions. Inner city school in an upper middle class area but with one of the last remaining ovals. They definitely play touch, both intra school and at lunchtime, and most kids have a grasp of the rules (combination of good sports education program and the fact we are 500 metres from Broncos HQ so very high awareness).
Massive soccer participation for both intra school teams and the local club, where we are well and truly oversubscribed for junior teams, but boys in particular drift away as they reach high school age and are press ganged into Union at their private schools.

Storm may have some handshake agreement with tigers re player transfers, eg Grant

I reckon it’s. A good concept. Zero problem with it at all.

Some teams night be struggling with cap pressure, be out of the running for the comp, and now have a mechanism to alleviate some cap pressure to improve chances for next season. Also, gives them a better understanding of their own cap pressures before November 1.

I mean, obviously this doesn’t apply to the tigers because they suck at cap management.

I don’t think fans should be too concerned about this happening, you’re only going to offload players you want offloaded, plus get a better financial position. It’s not as if they traded out the tigers best player…I don’t know that is.

In a raiders context, if storm room CNK it saves us 150k and means we can extend contract for tapine now using that money I’m happy.

Dunno what the fuss is about