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    Post by Bethany_B Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:03 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Yeah, I'm not sure he's playable though. Should be ok to make money and have as a first-man loop if the fixtures align. There'll be games where he scores a couple of tries, but games in the teens as well. Very much a shove him at 20/21 and hope he gets three good scores in a row at some point selection.

    He averaged 35.5 on the wing in 2021, increasing to 38.5 after removing three injury-affected games. I think he is playable as 3rd WFB, may not score every week but he'll average enough to be alright for the first few weeks.

    Either way he's miles better than any other 250k WFB that I can think of, so best case you'd have him at 20/21 (I currently have him and AKP as 20/21)
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    Post by L-Jimmy Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:14 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    Harris plays best in MID, with big minutes, 2nd year back from ACL is the year for improvement. Averaged 66 in 2021 at lock before the ACL injury, priced at 48. Gun!

    RFM has a career average of 49 in 60+ minutes at EDG. Another who had a comeback year last year from a major injury with limited minutes. Underpriced by 10 points. After iPap, 49 puts him within 4 points of the averages of the next best EDG players, but for $200k+ less!

    Tino is priced at 52, came back from Origin playing with the confidence of a totally different player, averaging 64 at prop in 66 minutes. Gets big minutes as the captain, and much more involved when playing Prop.

    Cool, thanks mate. Can't say I agree (Harris old'n'broke in a big pack, RFM decent but costly and slow, Tino small sample size). But best of luck!
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    Post by robelgordo Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:44 pm

    I don’t see how Sloan plays fullback for Dragons.

    Ramsey looked better

    I’m not actually sure Sloan is a first grader, at least not yet. Can’t underestimate COVID effect, I think basically went from Dapto u18 to NRL in one step?

    EDIT: ok googled and saw Ramsey has some intestinal issue that sounds serious. Game on Sloan. Prove me wrong lad. FWIW still think he’s better than Jayden Campbell


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    Post by Camo123 Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:45 pm

    robelgordo wrote:I don’t see how Sloan plays fullback for Dragons.

    Ramsey looked better

    I’m not actually sure Sloan is a first grader, at least not yet. Can’t underestimate COVID effect, I think basically went from Dapto u18 to NRL in one step?

    Ramsey had some weird health problem, not sure what the latest timeline is
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    Post by mattnz Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:46 pm

    robelgordo wrote:I don’t see how Sloan plays fullback for Dragons.

    Ramsey looked better

    I’m not actually sure Sloan is a first grader, at least not yet. Can’t underestimate COVID effect, I think basically went from Dapto u18 to NRL in one step?

    Ramsey is seriously ill at the moment. Sloan expected to start at fullback.
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    Post by Camo123 Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:47 pm

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    Cool, thanks mate. Can't say I agree (Harris old'n'broke in a big pack, RFM decent but costly and slow, Tino small sample size). But best of luck!

    With Dogs depth in forwards think TPJ might start EDG and RFM bench and then comes off around 25 mins for RFM before coming back on for MIDs (hybrid role Laughing )
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    Post by mattnz Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:50 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    With Dogs depth in forwards think TPJ might start EDG and RFM bench and then comes off around 25 mins for RFM before coming back on for MIDs (hybrid role Laughing )
    They have the perfect opportunity to play TPJ with some minutes on the EDG when Kikau is off. No reason RFM couldn't play 80 minutes each week with Kikau playing the impact role.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:59 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    They have the perfect opportunity to play TPJ with some minutes on the EDG when Kikau is off. No reason RFM couldn't play 80 minutes each week with Kikau playing the impact role.

    Who says Kikau is going to be off? He played 80 far more often than not for the Panthers last year, who had a much better squad than the Dogs, and he's their big signing being paid big bucks and is several times the player that RFM is (as is TPJ).
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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:12 pm

    "the injury is not expected to be serious" https://www.newcastleknights.com.au/news/2023/01/13/injury-update-kalyn-ponga/
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    Post by syn13 Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:43 pm

    Anyone see the article about Tevaga monetising his stats for his sick friends charity? Dunno if that’ll be enough to wanna start with him, but I’ll certainly be keeping an eye on him, will be hard to resist jumping on if he spends the first round or 2 being a ball-hog that tackles anything that moves with decent minutes.
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    Post by lukeayee Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:18 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:"the injury is not expected to be serious" https://www.newcastleknights.com.au/news/2023/01/13/injury-update-kalyn-ponga/

    I mean, Ponga is one more serious head knock away from never playing again anyway. Same camp as Keary. Probably less head knocks at 6 though?

    Just seems like his head is already made of glass.
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    Post by mattnz Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:35 pm

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-every-clubs-best-17-for-new-season-predicted-lineups-ins-and-outs/news-story/a9f19bd657dcbd4be0782292411b8e70

    Predicted team lists, some of the more interesting ones are:
    NAS at EDG
    Moale starting prop
    Fuimaono EDG
    Hetherington EDG
    Metcalf HLF
    Pole Prop
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    Post by Krump Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:49 pm

    robelgordo wrote:I don’t see how Sloan plays fullback for Dragons.

    Ramsey looked better

    I’m not actually sure Sloan is a first grader, at least not yet. Can’t underestimate COVID effect, I think basically went from Dapto u18 to NRL in one step?

    EDIT: ok googled and saw Ramsey has some intestinal issue that sounds serious. Game on Sloan. Prove me wrong lad. FWIW still think he’s better than Jayden Campbell
    Those sorts of jumps in class used to happen a bit. There’s a really great Brett Kenny interview on kayo that I watched last year where he went from 3rd grade centre to Aus 5/8 and premiership winner in 2 years.
    Kinda sorta relevant but I just wanted to plug that interview
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    Post by Camo123 Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:04 pm

    TheWeapon wrote:Being the bye planning pest that I am, I decided to have a quick look and write it down in a way that made the most sense to me:

    - Big bye rounds still exist rd 13, 16, and 19 (so origin players as well as the bye teams will miss those rounds).

    Team bye rounds below:

    Dragons: 1, 16 (pre origin), 20
    Manly: 2, 14, 19 (pre-origin)
    Panthers: 3, 13 (pre origin), 19 (pre origin)
    Roosters: 4, 13 (pre origin), 19 (pre origin)
    Titans: 5, 13 (pre origin), 16 (pre origin)
    Sharks: 6, 13 (pre origin), 17
    Tigers: 7, 13 (pre origin), 17
    Raiders: 8, 16 (pre origin), 20
    Storm: 9, 13 (pre origin), 19 (pre origin)
    Knights: 10, 14, 19 (pre origin)
    Dolphins: 11, 16 (pre origin), 21
    Warriors: 12, 16 (pre origin), 22
    Dogs: 13 (pre origin), 17, 23
    Eels: 14, 18, 27
    Cowboys: 15, 19 (pre origin), 24
    Broncos: 16 (pre origin), 19 (pre origin), 25
    Rabbits: 16 (pre origin), 20, 26

    My takeaways:

    Non-origin Eels players play all the origin bye rounds
    Origin players from Storm, Broncos, Titans, Roosters, Panthers will only miss 1 more round due to origin relative to their non-origin players (assuming they don't get rested)
    Titans are the first team to finish their byes (rd 16) and will be good purchases for the run home
    Eels, Cowboys, Broncos and Rabbits players don't have any byes until the second half of the season, so should be good players to start with.

    Want to flick back this

    Thoughts structurally on the early bye teams, byes R1-4 are kinda double edged sword as you’ll have worse EMG filling in but better chances of being able to field a team with less red dots than potentially injuries occurring in R7-13

    Specifically Bird is quite an interesting point as probably close to best CTR (only CTR OOP in FWDs/HLF) so could save a trade starting with him. Personally thinking maybe to get a look at EMG CTR score and maybe shuffle around team using unlimited trades in R1 if they score well to bring in Bird

    Feel like for non slam-dunk cash cows you probably don’t want the headache of an early bye stalling any cash gains but keepers could be a different story
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:22 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I am tossing up not playing at all this year. Will see how I feel in a month or so I suppose. I think I enjoy the community here enough to keep playing tbh

    Don't you fucking dare son!!
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    Post by TheWeapon Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:05 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    Want to flick back this

    Thoughts structurally on the early bye teams, byes R1-4 are kinda double edged sword as you’ll have worse EMG filling in but better chances of being able to field a team with less red dots than potentially injuries occurring in R7-13

    Specifically Bird is quite an interesting point as probably close to best CTR (only CTR OOP in FWDs/HLF) so could save a trade starting with him. Personally thinking maybe to get a look at EMG CTR score and maybe shuffle around team using unlimited trades in R1 if they score well to bring in Bird

    Feel like for non slam-dunk cash cows you probably don’t want the headache of an early bye stalling any cash gains but keepers could be a different story

    I was definitely thinking this, the rd1 unlimited trade reshuffle to put someone like Bird in to take advantage of a high scoring emg player…. Will have to see how Bird goes in trials… I had him last year and he was a bit underwhelming….

    I hadn’t considered the cash cow comments, but it makes sense… missing a week of cash generation could make a later bye player a better choice.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:05 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    With Dogs depth in forwards think TPJ might start EDG and RFM bench and then comes off around 25 mins for RFM before coming back on for MIDs (hybrid role Laughing )
    Do you reckon Ryan Sutton could be relevant? For mine he needs 50mins to be relevant I’m not sure he gets that.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:08 pm

    mattnz wrote:https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-every-clubs-best-17-for-new-season-predicted-lineups-ins-and-outs/news-story/a9f19bd657dcbd4be0782292411b8e70

    Predicted team lists, some of the more interesting ones are:
    NAS at EDG
    Moale starting prop
    Fuimaono EDG
    Hetherington EDG
    Metcalf HLF
    Pole Prop
    My mate who is a big Knights fan is hearing  Hetherington won’t start and will be off the bench. Re Souths I think there would need to be an injury for Moale to start.

    Tatola
    Cook
    Sele
    Keaon
    Arrow
    Murray

    Ta’affe/Mamozelos
    Tom
    Host
    Havili

    Moale/DSF/Shaq/Chee Kam




    Re Fuimaono we wont know Dragons have the bye round 1 he’s a wait and see for me initially. If I carry a Dragon it’s Sloan.
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    Post by robelgordo Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:07 pm

    Krump wrote:
    Those sorts of jumps in class used to happen a bit. There’s a really great Brett Kenny interview on kayo that I watched last year where he went from 3rd grade centre to Aus 5/8 and premiership winner in 2 years.
    Kinda sorta relevant but I just wanted to plug that interview

    I’ll check the interview out.

    But yeah, meteoric rises (and meteoric falls) used to be far more common back in the day when everyone trained Tues abd Thurs, worked real jobs and didn’t look much different to the man on the street.

    I reckon the jumps are way bigger now it’s all fully pro at the top and they are all giant athletic freaks. Especially with COVID seeing pretty much every other comp below it suspended for a year

    I think the last really meteoric rise is Paul McGregor refusing to sign for the Steelers until he was 23 because he could make more cash in the mines, and going from Dapto to NSW Origin centre in about 18 months
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    Post by Regulator Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:21 am

    Goodnight Kiwi wrote:

    As a disgruntled Warriors Fan, EKatoa is exactly the sort of player who would flourish under Bellamy and the Storm system. He has had wraps for a long time and been hamstrung by hamstrings (actually cheekbone, hand and ankle) and the perennially unsettled Warriors Coaching merry-go-round, travel and system.

    I would not be surprised to see him excel this year, all he needs is the minutes and a good coach.

    Forgetting how to catch the ball was also a real hindrance in his development.

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