NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 1 - Just open up already

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Wfb is a bit of a nightmare, half hoping Munster starts as fb rd 1 and gives us an easy one (if he gets dual)

No way in hell does Munster get dual, if he gets named at FB round 1 they will just say that they won't do it because he's there covering for Papenhuyzen.

That said I don't think WFB is that bad, I currently have 5 of them in my team (Teddy, Savage and CNK as my starting three plus Gennings and AKP at 20 and 21)

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:

guy loves an offload!

is luciano stood down then?

Yes, not even listed in fantasy.

He had games with 6, 7 and 10 offloads last season in Queensland Cup.

mattnz wrote:

Yes, not even listed in fantasy.

He had games with 6, 7 and 10 offloads last season in Queensland Cup.

He is listed in fantasy, as a WFB at 230k. Seen him in quite a few teams, so presumably word has been out. He was pretty good at the World Cup, fwiw, looked more of a Nanai-type player than a Luki/Kikau though.

Christ knows why he's listed as a WFB but will be in everyone's squad even if he gets on the Cowboys bench in Rd1, otherwise one to mark up for later in the year.

*Edit* sorry, I guess you mean than Luciano isn't listed in fantasy. Wasn't clear

rhinoceroo wrote:

He is listed in fantasy, as a WFB at 230k. Seen him in quite a few teams, so presumably word has been out. He was pretty good at the World Cup, fwiw, looked more of a Nanai-type player than a Luki/Kikau though.

Christ knows why he's listed as a WFB but will be in everyone's squad even if he gets on the Cowboys bench in Rd1, otherwise one to mark up for later in the year.

*Edit* sorry, I guess you mean than Luciano isn't listed in fantasy. Wasn't clear

He was asking about Lucy

mattnz wrote:
He was asking about Lucy

So who were you talking about with the QCup offloads?

rhinoceroo wrote:

So who were you talking about with the QCup offloads?

That was Sagdrugu, who he mentioned about the number of offloads.

2 topics - Lucy suspension, Sadrugu offloads, wasnt that hard to follow.

mattnz wrote:

That was Sagdrugu, who he mentioned about the number of offloads.

2 topics - Lucy suspension, Sadrugu offloads, wasnt that hard to follow.

Anyway it's weird that he (Sadrugu) is listed as WFB when he was a centre in reserves and a second-row internationally. First season SST-style DPP incoming....

mattnz wrote:Apparently Sadrugu has been training at EDG, where he played for Fiji at the world cup. Listed at WFB after averaging 50 playing CTR in Queensland Cup last season.

With Lucy stood down awaiting a court date, Luki recovering from an ACL, Gilbert's edge is up for grabs. His only competition is Dunn or Gosi.

He could be the ideal player for the Luki role from last season, Dunn could play the Gilbert role, starting on the EDG, then moving to the middle. Would be a great option for Cowboys, also covering the backs. Lots would miss him if named on the bench for round 1.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hess in that position until Luki is back.

Everyone going cheap at WFB just resigning themselves to not getting Teddy until Round 20 or do they not realise it?

"I'll pick him up after his bye in Round 4 oh wait I have 10 other fires to fight and his next games are Eels, Storm, Sharks, so I'll get him in Round 8 oh wait that only gives a month of play before Origin, and then he'll miss a few and go down in price, maybe I can bring him in and trade him out and bring him back again wait how many trades do I have left?" and all of a sudden it's August.

Yeah, he's supposed to start slowly (this isn't actually always true) but with the injury clouds over Turbo and Papy, it's just him and Latrell for ubergun WFBs and Latrell is Latrell. Roosters attack (and Ted's average) considerably better after they figured out how to play Keary and SWalker together towards the end of last year. Save yourself the headache of watching him post successive 80s vs the Dolphins and Warriors is what I say, not to mention the frustration of the next four months of non-ownership.

rhinoceroo wrote:Everyone going cheap at WFB just resigning themselves to not getting Teddy until Round 20 or do they not realise it?

"I'll pick him up after his bye in Round 4 oh wait I have 10 other fires to fight and his next games are Eels, Storm, Sharks, so I'll get him in Round 8 oh wait that only gives a month of play before Origin, and then he'll miss a few and go down in price, maybe I can bring him in and trade him out and bring him back again wait how many trades do I have left?" and all of a sudden it's August.

Yeah, he's supposed to start slowly (this isn't actually always true) but with the injury clouds over Turbo and Papy, it's just him and Latrell for ubergun WFBs and Latrell is Latrell. Roosters attack (and Ted's average) considerably better after they figured out how to play Keary and SWalker together towards the end of last year. Save yourself the headache of watching him post successive 80s vs the Dolphins and Warriors is what I say, not to mention the frustration of the next four months of non-ownership.

Plenty picked up Teddy close to Origin in R9 last year v Titans

Savage who seems to be popular has bye in R8 could be perfect time to upgrade to Teddy. Roosters have bye on 2 of the Origin rounds this year, so he only misses 1 extra game on non-Origin players (barring restings)

Having Origin players this year shouldn't be as bad because you can only field 13 players max in the big bye rounds

rhinoceroo wrote:Everyone going cheap at WFB just resigning themselves to not getting Teddy until Round 20 or do they not realise it?

"I'll pick him up after his bye in Round 4 oh wait I have 10 other fires to fight and his next games are Eels, Storm, Sharks, so I'll get him in Round 8 oh wait that only gives a month of play before Origin, and then he'll miss a few and go down in price, maybe I can bring him in and trade him out and bring him back again wait how many trades do I have left?" and all of a sudden it's August.

Yeah, he's supposed to start slowly (this isn't actually always true) but with the injury clouds over Turbo and Papy, it's just him and Latrell for ubergun WFBs and Latrell is Latrell. Roosters attack (and Ted's average) considerably better after they figured out how to play Keary and SWalker together towards the end of last year. Save yourself the headache of watching him post successive 80s vs the Dolphins and Warriors is what I say, not to mention the frustration of the next four months of non-ownership.

My general strategy has always been to not start with any gun WFBs

I tend towards the "value" guys like Turbo and Ponga this season. Even the best of the best have a down game or two and whoever that is around the time I upgrade determines who is in my WFB to end the season. I could reasonably end the season with Turbo, Ponga, Papy, Latrell and get better value than Teddy.

I'll be watching from behind the couch though

Camo123 wrote:

Plenty picked up Teddy close to Origin in R9 last year v Titans

Savage who seems to be popular has bye in R8 could be perfect time to upgrade to Teddy. Roosters have bye on 2 of the Origin rounds this year, so he only misses 1 extra game on non-Origin players (barring restings)

Having Origin players this year shouldn't be as bad because you can only field 13 players max in the big bye rounds

The "barring restings" is pretty key. He didn't get rested at all over Origin last year because the Roosters were outside the top eight and needed to win every match. Every other year, he's missed an extra one or two games.

rhinoceroo wrote:Everyone going cheap at WFB just resigning themselves to not getting Teddy until Round 20 or do they not realise it?

"I'll pick him up after his bye in Round 4 oh wait I have 10 other fires to fight and his next games are Eels, Storm, Sharks, so I'll get him in Round 8 oh wait that only gives a month of play before Origin, and then he'll miss a few and go down in price, maybe I can bring him in and trade him out and bring him back again wait how many trades do I have left?" and all of a sudden it's August.

Yeah, he's supposed to start slowly (this isn't actually always true) but with the injury clouds over Turbo and Papy, it's just him and Latrell for ubergun WFBs and Latrell is Latrell. Roosters attack (and Ted's average) considerably better after they figured out how to play Keary and SWalker together towards the end of last year. Save yourself the headache of watching him post successive 80s vs the Dolphins and Warriors is what I say, not to mention the frustration of the next four months of non-ownership.

Almost certainly going cheap, but I’m keen on walsh, based on optimism and not a lot more

Ryan Matterson will be out the first 3 weeks, assuming Hopgood plays those first 3 in the middle then either him or Matto revert back to edge and lock respectively, that would mean there’s potentially a basement guy around $250k, think Doory, Carty, Jirah. Would it be worth the investment in one of these basement guys knowing full well that they’re only good for 3 games? Albeit in a great team and high scoring position? I’d like to know peoples thoughts and reasonings behind it.

Genderbender wrote:Ryan Matterson will be out the first 3 weeks, assuming Hopgood plays those first 3 in the middle then either him or Matto revert back to edge and lock respectively, that would mean there’s potentially a basement guy around $250k, think Doory, Carty, Jirah. Would it be worth the investment in one of these basement guys knowing full well that they’re only good for 3 games? Albeit in a great team and high scoring position? I’d like to know peoples thoughts and reasonings behind it.

Matto might be bench when he comes back, albeit playing 50-60 minutes from there like he did last year. Watch out for Murchie ruining things by getting the spot, but all on for a Carty Party or Doorey Orgy if either named in Rnd1.

Genderbender wrote:Ryan Matterson will be out the first 3 weeks, assuming Hopgood plays those first 3 in the middle then either him or Matto revert back to edge and lock respectively, that would mean there’s potentially a basement guy around $250k, think Doory, Carty, Jirah. Would it be worth the investment in one of these basement guys knowing full well that they’re only good for 3 games? Albeit in a great team and high scoring position? I’d like to know peoples thoughts and reasonings behind it.

Unless their name is Jack Gosiewski it’s always hard to turn down a starting base price forward

rhinoceroo wrote:Everyone going cheap at WFB just resigning themselves to not getting Teddy until Round 20 or do they not realise it?

"I'll pick him up after his bye in Round 4 oh wait I have 10 other fires to fight and his next games are Eels, Storm, Sharks, so I'll get him in Round 8 oh wait that only gives a month of play before Origin, and then he'll miss a few and go down in price, maybe I can bring him in and trade him out and bring him back again wait how many trades do I have left?" and all of a sudden it's August.

Yeah, he's supposed to start slowly (this isn't actually always true) but with the injury clouds over Turbo and Papy, it's just him and Latrell for ubergun WFBs and Latrell is Latrell. Roosters attack (and Ted's average) considerably better after they figured out how to play Keary and SWalker together towards the end of last year. Save yourself the headache of watching him post successive 80s vs the Dolphins and Warriors is what I say, not to mention the frustration of the next four months of non-ownership.

I've been considering Latrell as a Teddy alternative to start with and it's not looking like a horrible shout. Non-injury avg of 55 (same as Tedesco), season low of 35 last year so his floor is pretty good with gk duties. Post-Philly he averaged 60. Plus Souths don't have a bye until round 16. I wouldn't write him off as a pick at all.

Genderbender wrote:Ryan Matterson will be out the first 3 weeks, assuming Hopgood plays those first 3 in the middle then either him or Matto revert back to edge and lock respectively, that would mean there’s potentially a basement guy around $250k, think Doory, Carty, Jirah. Would it be worth the investment in one of these basement guys knowing full well that they’re only good for 3 games? Albeit in a great team and high scoring position? I’d like to know peoples thoughts and reasonings behind it.

Doorey and Matterson will be the starting EDG for the Eels this year

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

Doorey and Matterson will be the starting EDG for the Eels this year

Where will Lane be playing?

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

Doorey and Matterson will be the starting EDG for the Eels this year

I think Lane would have something to say about that. Matterson looks to have successfully converted to Mid.