NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 1 - Just open up already

Referees will issue a single call of “held/release” when a tackle is complete, rather than the separate calls of “held” and “release”. The change will address unnecessary slowing of the play-the-ball and improve game continuity.
I can see this one having the biggest impact

Milchcow wrote:

Play the balls 1m from the line could be very dangerous if they actually enforce this.

Surelyyyy that doesn't apply to the try line though ? Does it ?

Its always been one foot on the try line. If they enforced a change to both feet on/behind the try line, that's probably 1.5 metre difference in starting position for a defensive line. Should increase all scoring from close range, not just hookers, but centres/wingers too.

Krump wrote:Referees will issue a single call of “held/release” when a tackle is complete, rather than the separate calls of “held” and “release”. The change will address unnecessary slowing of the play-the-ball and improve game continuity.
I can see this one having the biggest impact

It certainly has the potential to be the biggest change. Depends how they interpret it though. I can see this being a 2 week crackdown before they just go back to normal.

my tv broke wrote:

Surelyyyy that doesn't apply to the try line though ? Does it ?

Its always been one foot on the try line. If they enforced a change to both feet on/behind the try line, that's probably 1.5 metre difference in starting position for a defensive line. Should increase all scoring from close range, not just hookers, but centres/wingers too.

I just read the rules (because I lead an exciting life) and there is currently this note about retiring to their own goal line.
So I guess it depends on whether or not the proposed rule change will take precedence over this or not.

** players of the side not in possession other than the player taking part in the play-the ball and the
acting halfback when retiring to their own goal line must be touching the goal line with a foot; and
cannot place their front foot past the centre of the ruck.

If the new rule doesn't impact positioning on the goal line, then I don't see the point of making the change anyway, if there is an exception for the only time when it actually matters.

on the topic of Hodgson, he is priced at 37, and averaged 50.4 in 2021 (average of 77.2 mins per game so 0.65ppm)

If he gets 65 minutes at 0.65ppm, that's a 42 average so 5 points of value. If he gets 70 minutes, then that's a 45.5 average so 8 points of value.

Basically to start with him or not, you have to estimate how many minutes Mitch Rein or Jake Arthur will take off him, and if he loses more than about 10 mins, he's probably not worth it.

L-Jimmy wrote:

Calling Levi an NRL standard hooker is quite a lot too.

Yes

In my current draft, I've given up Cook as a 4th gun and used the money to fix my bench and outside backs, thoughts?

Hodgson
Gilbert, Cheese, Moale
Loiero, Hosking
Cleary, Munster
Thompson, R Smith
Miller, Teddy, CNK

Hastings, Clark, Hopgood, Sullivan

Luke, Mapapalangi, Talau, AKP


Moale is only at starting MID because Clark and Hopgood don't have MID dual yet, odds are they'll both get it before round 1. As for Hosking and Garner, I will just pick whichever one starts, but Hosking is 1k more so he's there as a placeholder. This does rely on Loiero getting the Storm edge spot ahead of E Katoa but I think Loiero is more likely since he's done his time on the bench, and Bellamy hates putting young players straight into the starting side.

Bethany_B wrote:. This does rely on Loiero getting the Storm edge spot ahead of E Katoa but I think Loiero is more likely since he's done his time on the bench, and Bellamy hates putting young players straight into the starting side.

Does E Katoa count as a young player? He's older than Loiero

Bethany_B wrote:In my current draft, I've given up Cook as a 4th gun and used the money to fix my bench and outside backs, thoughts?

Hodgson
Gilbert, Cheese, Moale
Loiero, Hosking
Cleary, Munster
Thompson, R Smith
Miller, Teddy, CNK

Hastings, Clark, Hopgood, Sullivan

Luke, Mapapalangi, Talau, AKP


Moale is only at starting MID because Clark and Hopgood don't have MID dual yet, odds are they'll both get it before round 1. As for Hosking and Garner, I will just pick whichever one starts, but Hosking is 1k more so he's there as a placeholder. This does rely on Loiero getting the Storm edge spot ahead of E Katoa but I think Loiero is more likely since he's done his time on the bench, and Bellamy hates putting young players straight into the starting side.

Squad feels a bit skinny this far out- Sullivan won't play r1 and Moale likely isn't in Souths best side, so that leaves you with 2 of your 18-21 being used as scoring players and I'm not sure any of them are. Obviously some playable cows will emerge post-trials but I wouldn't fall in love with this team structure at this point

Milchcow wrote:

Does E Katoa count as a young player? He's older than Loiero

Young in terms of experience in the Storm system, not necessarily age.

If it was up to me, I would have them both start and put Sims in the middle rotation but I think it's more likely that we have Sims and Loiero starting with Katoa on the bench, or some combination of those three in the 17.

I would love to see Chan or Howarth get a spot eventually but I don't think they're likely to get into the 17 until later in the year if that.

Bethany_B wrote:

Young in terms of experience in the Storm system, not necessarily age.

If it was up to me, I would have them both start and put Sims in the middle rotation but I think it's more likely that we have Sims and Loiero starting with Katoa on the bench, or some combination of those three in the 17.

I would love to see Chan or Howarth get a spot eventually but I don't think they're likely to get into the 17 until later in the year if that.

As a disgruntled Warriors Fan, EKatoa is exactly the sort of player who would flourish under Bellamy and the Storm system. He has had wraps for a long time and been hamstrung by hamstrings (actually cheekbone, hand and ankle) and the perennially unsettled Warriors Coaching merry-go-round, travel and system.

I would not be surprised to see him excel this year, all he needs is the minutes and a good coach.

Bethany_B wrote:

Young in terms of experience in the Storm system, not necessarily age.

If it was up to me, I would have them both start and put Sims in the middle rotation but I think it's more likely that we have Sims and Loiero starting with Katoa on the bench, or some combination of those three in the 17.

I would love to see Chan or Howarth get a spot eventually but I don't think they're likely to get into the 17 until later in the year if that.

I get what you're saying, but the same metric would make Tariq a cheeky beardless up-and-comer.


I reckon Katoa will have a breakout year as a Lane-style longbody scoring close to the line. Munster will get so many TAs. (this is based on nothing more than post-noodleLunch sleepiness)

L-Jimmy wrote:

I get what you're saying, but the same metric would make Tariq a cheeky beardless up-and-comer.


I reckon Katoa will have a breakout year as a Lane-style longbody scoring close to the line. Munster will get so many TAs. (this is based on nothing more than post-noodleLunch sleepiness)

I think he's definitely capable of that but I'm not sure he starts right away, he may need to earn his stripes on the bench for a few weeks. Of course the same may apply to Sims, but I think he's been around in the NRL long enough that he'd go right in. Meanwhile, Loiero has spent the best part of two seasons biding his time on the bench and filling in on the edge when needed, and I think he'd be the frontrunner unless one of the young lads has a huge preseason.

That said I would much prefer Loiero and Katoa than one of them and Sims, I don't mind Sims but he's not what he used to be and he's decent enough in the middle which is where most of our player losses have been (JBrom and Cheese)

And someone has taken the name sheenius already. #nothappyjan

WT2K wrote:And someone has taken the name sheenius already. #nothappyjan

Is that Sheenius, mentor of Benjenius?

Now that I think of it, the 17-21 structure will be super important if you don't want to be burning trades....
Though we have 44 trades in 27 rounds.... if you have nuffs (or get a bit unlucky with fringe players getting dropped) in your 17-21, then at they very least you'll need 1 trade per round (if you have one player per team), just to field a full team each round (plus the extras for the origin rounds)

This is going to be really fun!

TheWeapon wrote:Now that I think of it, the 17-21 structure will be super important if you don't want to be burning trades....
Though we have 44 trades in 27 rounds.... if you have nuffs (or get a bit unlucky with fringe players getting dropped) in your 17-21, then at they very least you'll need 1 trade per round (if you have one player per team), just to field a full team each round (plus the extras for the origin rounds)

This is going to be really fun!

It's going to be difficult and like all difficult things it should be left until the day before it's due.

In saying that, it's always fun eavesdropping on dreams that will all turn to dust come TLT on 28th February 2023 (that's right) or at least until the trials claim a few victims.

Plan away fanatics!

Goodnight Kiwi wrote:

As a disgruntled Warriors Fan, EKatoa is exactly the sort of player who would flourish under Bellamy and the Storm system. He has had wraps for a long time and been hamstrung by hamstrings (actually cheekbone, hand and ankle) and the perennially unsettled Warriors Coaching merry-go-round, travel and system.

I would not be surprised to see him excel this year, all he needs is the minutes and a good coach.

I agree, I rate him as a player, but I don't think he'll get the starting spot right away unless he really tears it up in pre-season, usually Bellamy likes starting guys on the bench and making them earn their stripes.

Reading this, sounds like Paps won't come back until well into the season. Gennings should be a solid NPR cow.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2023/01/12/ill-come-back-when-i-know-i-can-perform-at-elite-level-paps/

rhinoceroo wrote:Reading this, sounds like Paps won't come back until well into the season. Gennings should be a solid NPR cow.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2023/01/12/ill-come-back-when-i-know-i-can-perform-at-elite-level-paps/

good for meaney too he'll play fb & gk he played well last year after the pap injury