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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 2 - What's the magic number ?

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    Post by robelgordo Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:20 pm

    the_great_wobbler wrote:Probably been talked about lots but it feels like the round 27 bye should have gone to a team that was unlikely to make the 8. A week off is such a huge boost going into the finals.

    But it did
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:29 pm

    the_great_wobbler wrote:Probably been talked about lots but it feels like the round 27 bye should have gone to a team that was unlikely to make the 8. A week off is such a huge boost going into the finals.

    Newcastle and the Dragons are playing each other in Round 27. That is like the bye playing against the bye.

    Imagine needing a win to make the finals, or to get in the top 4, or to win the minor premiership and doing it with a bye. That would be even more of an advantage
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    Post by mattnz Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:37 pm

    Looks like PVL has backed down on a Pride round and now they are looking to have a Respect round, which respects that everyone has the right to their own views on such issues. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-pride-round-peter-vlandys-scott-sattler-manly-sea-eagles-pride-jersey-saga-news-arlc-nrl-bosses/news-story/7d25f8e48ae89256be13763ecf848b7a?recommendedCount=0
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:21 pm

    Hhhmmmm I had Ponga intially and then I haven’t but if he’s GK you would think that adds an extra 4 maybe even 5 points to his scoring. It’s gonna be hard working out which two I want out of Ponga, Miller and Hastings as I can’t have all 3.

    Also don’t think I’ll be able to carry all 3 of Ponga, Miller and Savage just 2 of them as I’ll likely carry a guy like Perham as 3rd WFB.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:22 pm

    mattnz wrote:Looks like PVL has backed down on a Pride round and now they are looking to have a Respect round, which respects that everyone has the right to their own views on such issues. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-pride-round-peter-vlandys-scott-sattler-manly-sea-eagles-pride-jersey-saga-news-arlc-nrl-bosses/news-story/7d25f8e48ae89256be13763ecf848b7a?recommendedCount=0



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    Post by filthridden Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:26 pm

    mattnz wrote:Looks like PVL has backed down on a Pride round and now they are looking to have a Respect round, which respects that everyone has the right to their own views on such issues. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-pride-round-peter-vlandys-scott-sattler-manly-sea-eagles-pride-jersey-saga-news-arlc-nrl-bosses/news-story/7d25f8e48ae89256be13763ecf848b7a?recommendedCount=0

    This has been doing the rounds for a few days. Terrible look for the game.
    We've gone from a Grand Final with a performance of One Love with the NRL publicly supporting marriage equality to telling us we should respect homophobes.

    Huge backwards step for inclusivity in the sport and opens up a massive, unnecessary can of worms.
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    Post by Krump Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:30 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Agree you can’t have a balanced team with both Hynes and Cleary.

    I have gone cold on Hastings too I just worry on the Knights struggling and he’s never avg 52-55 before I don’t think over half a season. I’m warming to Burton alongside Cleary with Tapine and Robson. Robson in 30 odd games over 70mins avg is about 58 as well and I think he will be the 3rd best hooker scorer for the year.

    Rabbits21 wrote:Hhhmmmm I had Ponga intially and then I haven’t but if he’s GK you would think that adds an extra 4 maybe even 5 points to his scoring. It’s gonna be hard working out which two I want out of Ponga, Miller and Hastings as I can’t have all 3.

    Also don’t think I’ll be able to carry all 3 of Ponga, Miller and Savage just 2 of them as I’ll likely carry a guy like Perham as 3rd WFB.
    Youve gone from no Hastings to Hastings in 5 hours with no additional news and no games played?
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    Post by Lchy Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:41 pm

    mattnz wrote:Looks like PVL has backed down on a Pride round and now they are looking to have a Respect round, which respects that everyone has the right to their own views on such issues. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-pride-round-peter-vlandys-scott-sattler-manly-sea-eagles-pride-jersey-saga-news-arlc-nrl-bosses/news-story/7d25f8e48ae89256be13763ecf848b7a?recommendedCount=0

    AKA the "we don't want the general fan population to hate the heavily religious Penrith team in the middle of their dynasty" round
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    Post by Lchy Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:43 pm

    the_great_wobbler wrote:Probably been talked about lots but it feels like the round 27 bye should have gone to a team that was unlikely to make the 8. A week off is such a huge boost going into the finals.

    Not easy to pick though- last year by that logic you would consider giving it to the Cowboys who ran 15th. It would be better if the 3 byes were spaced out more though. As a Souths fan I'll take 3 byes in the 7 rounds before finals, but in the interests of a fair comp it's not ideal.
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    Post by RandomSil Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:51 pm

    I appreciate it boys, but it's more I was busy when the domain rego came up and hadn't popped in to renew. Then I was late doing it so it was this whole thing. We are sweet now, just took a little extra as I had a surgery to sort out as well.

    Forum and myself are on the mend
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    Post by Camo123 Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:01 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    I have Hammer currently in my latest draft as he is DPP and close to 40percent owned. But I hope cheaper options become available. I can’t justify spending 500k on Suaali with the Roosters having a bye in round 4 anyway. Currently I have

    Hammer Thompson
    Miller (should avg 38-40, 9-11 pts value) Savage Perham

    HTF is one player (of those high ownership that will remain high ownership post TLT) that I would be fairly comfortable anti-podding (avoiding high ownership player)

    However, with CTR being dire, I will probably end up with him

    Can also add Carrigan to the list - wouldn't know attacking upside if it slapped him in the face (hasn't got a try or LB in his career) - where is value going to come from for Carrigan
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    Post by Bethany_B Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:07 pm

    Camo123 wrote:

    HTF is one player (of those high ownership that will remain high ownership post TLT) that I would be fairly comfortable anti-podding (avoiding high ownership player)

    However, with CTR being dire, I will probably end up with him

    Can also add Carrigan to the list - wouldn't know attacking upside if it slapped him in the face (hasn't got a try or LB in his career) - where is value going to come from for Carrigan

    As long as Alamoti starts, Hammer is going nowhere near my team. for WFB I have Gennings and Perham who should score similarly for 120k and 74k less respectively
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    Post by wolfking Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:50 pm

    Krump wrote:


    Youve gone from no Hastings to Hastings in 5 hours with no additional news and no games played?

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    Post by Mulvy Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:25 pm

    RandomSil wrote:I appreciate it boys, but it's more I was busy when the domain rego came up and hadn't popped in to renew. Then I was late doing it so it was this whole thing. We are sweet now, just took a little extra as I had a surgery to sort out as well.

    Forum and myself are on the mend

    Cheers mate, hope everything is going well!
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:59 pm

    Krump wrote:


    Youve gone from no Hastings to Hastings in 5 hours with no additional news and no games played?

    Hastings is in strong consideration but hasn’t been in my drafts the last couple of days lol!
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    Post by Rabbits21 Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:05 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:

    As long as Alamoti starts, Hammer is going nowhere near my team. for WFB I have Gennings and Perham who should score similarly for 120k and 74k less respectively
    I think running both Perham and G. Jennings as your back 3 is very risky. I’d run Perham but put Jennings in your emergencies. He’s been very injury prone last 2-3 years as well Jennings been made of glass.
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    Post by zim Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:15 am

    26 days and unlimited trades left (I've only used 8 million). My 21 as of now, can anyone steer me clear of any landmines I might be walking into?

    Robson
    DSaifiti Carrigan Lolo
    Garner Katoa
    Cleary Johnson
    Holmes Alamoti
    Miller Savage Perham

    Boyd Cheese Doorey Hopgood
    Martin Blore Talau Jennings

    25k bank
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    Post by Mulvy Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:41 am

    zim wrote:26 days and unlimited trades left (I've only used 8 million). My 21 as of now, can anyone steer me clear of any landmines I might be walking into?

    Robson
    DSaifiti Carrigan Lolo
    Garner Katoa
    Cleary Johnson
    Holmes Alamoti
    Miller Savage Perham

    Boyd Cheese Doorey Hopgood
    Martin Blore Talau Jennings

    25k bank

    I've only just started my fantasy planning, so have only looked at hooker. Tell me your thoughts on Robson. I like him, I'm a cows fan. Good byes, won't play origin. Worked his way towards 80 minutes last season, so room for improvement if it continues. But low minutes to start last season... he's evolved beyond that, or was it related to early season heat?; season starts a week earlier this year, first four games are in Qld etc. I see 0.3 tries per game likely to be about average for him. Has a ceiling of 98 but a floor of 22 (2021) or 26 (2022). That last part is the most concerning bit. I guess if you're picking him, you're holding until at least mid season, in which case average is probably more important than floor, unless you're captaining him. Just some thoughts, and grateful to hear other opinions.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:21 am

    It’s a great point you make Mulvy. With season starting earlier by 2 weeks gonna be interesting with players mins due to the heat. It’ll be important to not panic trade somewhat out more than ever that first month players mins could be a bit over the place. I have Robson currently as I don’t think he plays origin and the Cows don’t have a bye til about round 14-15 if I recall. I think Robson will be the 3rd highest avg hooker. I think in 30 odd games over his career where he’s played higher than 70mins his avg is 58. I think he might avg around that 56-57 mark this year. He will be very reliable.
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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:32 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I've only just started my fantasy planning, so have only looked at hooker. Tell me your thoughts on Robson. I like him, I'm a cows fan. Good byes, won't play origin. Worked his way towards 80 minutes last season, so room for improvement if it continues. But low minutes to start last season... he's evolved beyond that, or was it related to early season heat?; season starts a week earlier this year, first four games are in Qld etc. I see 0.3 tries per game likely to be about average for him. Has a ceiling of 98 but a floor of 22 (2021) or 26 (2022). That last part is the most concerning bit. I guess if you're picking him, you're holding until at least mid season, in which case average is probably more important than floor, unless you're captaining him. Just some thoughts, and grateful to hear other opinions.

    You've pretty much said it all, and while I'm personally running with him, I can see why some wouldn't.

    I think the most important thing if you do start with him is to hold your nerve and not trade him if he doesn't start hot, if you're picking him it's to hold him until at least round 15 (the fact that he will likely play round 13 and 14 when basically no other gun hooker will is so valuable) and potentially for the whole year.

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