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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 2 - What's the magic number ?

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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:20 am

    On this years Australian Survivor Heroes v Villains I’m going for the one that one Miss Australia in 2019 I think it was Sarah Marschke on the Villains tribe. My reason being she played for the Rabbitohs women in Tarsha Gale Cup Very Happy
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    Post by zim Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:30 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I've only just started my fantasy planning, so have only looked at hooker. Tell me your thoughts on Robson. I like him, I'm a cows fan. Good byes, won't play origin. Worked his way towards 80 minutes last season, so room for improvement if it continues. But low minutes to start last season... he's evolved beyond that, or was it related to early season heat?; season starts a week earlier this year, first four games are in Qld etc. I see 0.3 tries per game likely to be about average for him. Has a ceiling of 98 but a floor of 22 (2021) or 26 (2022). That last part is the most concerning bit. I guess if you're picking him, you're holding until at least mid season, in which case average is probably more important than floor, unless you're captaining him. Just some thoughts, and grateful to hear other opinions.

    I used the unscientific method of being able to fit him in when I dropped Clark after having cash left over in my latest draft. Couldn't bring him in last season when he was killing it so get him in early I reckon
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:04 am

    Surely Robson doesn’t builds his minutes due to the heat. I’ll start with Clark with a possible upgrade to Robson when GC have the bye. I feel sorry for those Raiders players having to go to Townsville for Rd 1. It’s made my decision to get Cotter over Tapine much easier.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:25 am

    The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:Surely Robson doesn’t builds his minutes due to the heat. I’ll start with Clark with a possible upgrade to Robson when GC have the bye. I feel sorry for those Raiders players having to go to Townsville for Rd 1. It’s made my decision to get Cotter over Tapine much easier.

    Er... isn't Cotter going to be in Townsville more often than Tapine?
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    Post by Mulvy Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:09 am

    zim wrote:

    I used the unscientific method of being able to fit him in when I dropped Clark after having cash left over in my latest draft. Couldn't bring him in last season when he was killing it so get him in early I reckon

    I captained him a couple of times last year, and whilst he was good to own, it felt like numerous occasions where he was on 20 with 20 to go and then saved his score with a try. Ok if it keeps happening I guess.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:25 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I captained him a couple of times last year,  and whilst he was good to own,  it felt like numerous occasions where he was on 20 with 20 to go and then saved his score with a try.  Ok if it keeps happening I guess.

    Felt like BSmith 2021 season where he just kept scoring tries. Good players do tend to score tries pretty often, but I think last year was above average for Robson
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    Post by Milchcow Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:47 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:

    Felt like BSmith 2021 season where he just kept scoring tries. Good players do tend to score tries pretty often, but I think last year was above average for Robson

    I agree. Robson needs to keep the tries coming to maintain the value. I think he is more likely to regress than improve.
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    Post by Mulvy Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:48 am

    Hodgson seems like value, but it feels so gross.

    Such a fantasy plodder. Also has good byes but I don't think I'd want to hold him until the main byes anyway.
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    Post by Welshy Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:52 am

    Mulvy wrote:Hodgson seems like value, but it feels so gross.

    Such a fantasy plodder. Also has good byes but I don't think I'd want to hold him until the main byes anyway.

    Can’t see much wrong with him minus injury mate.

    Not sexy, but unlikely to average less than 45 and best byes
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:42 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Er... isn't Cotter going to be in Townsville more often than Tapine?
    My apologies. Tapine over Cotter. I think I need more sleep!
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    Post by Honey Badger Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:39 am

    The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:Surely Robson doesn’t builds his minutes due to the heat. I’ll start with Clark with a possible upgrade to Robson when GC have the bye. I feel sorry for those Raiders players having to go to Townsville for Rd 1. It’s made my decision to get Cotter over Tapine much easier.

    Clark to Robson when GC have their bye would be a good play
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    Post by Mulvy Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:08 am

    Welshy wrote:

    Can’t see much wrong with him minus injury mate.

    Not sexy, but unlikely to average less than 45 and best byes

    Yeah certainly injury a concern, is that two ACL's now? 33 years old.

    Career average over 50 minutes is 47 in 74.4 minutes, priced at 37 so yeah there's value there. If he averages 45 though, do you still hold him until rd 15?

    I'd rather find someone priced at 42 who will average 52 if they exist rather than someone priced at 37 averaging 47 if you catch my meaning.
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    Post by Chewie Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:24 am

    mattnz wrote:Looks like PVL has backed down on a Pride round and now they are looking to have a Respect round, which respects that everyone has the right to their own views on such issues. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-pride-round-peter-vlandys-scott-sattler-manly-sea-eagles-pride-jersey-saga-news-arlc-nrl-bosses/news-story/7d25f8e48ae89256be13763ecf848b7a?recommendedCount=0

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    Post by L-Jimmy Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:27 pm

    The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:Surely Robson doesn’t builds his minutes due to the heat. I’ll start with Clark with a possible upgrade to Robson when GC have the bye. I feel sorry for those Raiders players having to go to Townsville for Rd 1. It’s made my decision to get Cotter over Tapine much easier.

    Why are so many folks keen on Clark? 3 games at lock for 55mins for 50 points sure. But!

    In that tiny sample is one game with 8 TBs. He broke 1 TB on average per game at an average of 60mins hooker.

    Could he gun it up from 600k to 750k? Sure. Maybe.

    But its the Titans, so any forward with a pulse could end up in lock, not least Tino, Liu and Joliffe - none of whom suck.

    600k seems like rich money for a not-very-useful DPP with risky upside.

    Hard pass here.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Sat Feb 04, 2023 12:36 pm

    Doorey will be a cow at the start of the year playing big minutes on the EDG but going off his past scoring he is unlikely to ever reach keeper territory. Perhaps he should lie outside your 1-17
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    Post by Lchy Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:02 pm

    Sorry if this has been discussed already but do we know who's goal kicker for the GC? Assuming Boyd keeps it if he plays halfback?
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:23 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    I agree. Robson needs to keep the tries coming to maintain the value. I think he is more likely to regress than improve.
    I think Robson can keep it up. 0.4 tries in 2020 ppm 0.80, 0.3 in 2021 ppm 0.74, and 0.3 last season ppm 0.73. He seems to be becoming a better player and Granville is garbage. I reckon Robson will avg around 75mins again and he might start running some more metres and creating more try assists etc as well. I still think he’s a good option and won’t really lose you money.



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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:25 pm

    Lchy wrote:Sorry if this has been discussed already but do we know who's goal kicker for the GC? Assuming Boyd keeps it if he plays halfback?

    Might have some competition in the form of Schoupp. Puts a dampener on his value if he is not kicking. Boyd has a high conversion rate though so who knows?

    On other hand. if Schoupp is goal kicker he comes into contention as a consistent scoring CTR with an upside in terms of value


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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:26 pm

    L-Jimmy wrote:

    Why are so many folks keen on Clark? 3 games at lock for 55mins for 50 points sure. But!

    In that tiny sample is one game with 8 TBs. He broke 1 TB on average per game at an average of 60mins hooker.

    Could he gun it up from 600k to 750k? Sure. Maybe.

    But its the Titans, so any forward with a pulse could end up in lock, not least Tino, Liu and Joliffe - none of whom suck.

    600k seems like rich money for a not-very-useful DPP with risky upside.

    Hard pass here.
    It’s the DPP that will be very handy and lure people in. If Campbell is the 14 though I can see Clark playing a bit of hooker too in spelling Verrills and Clark doesn’t score well at hooker.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Sat Feb 04, 2023 2:10 pm

    Is anyone who is picking Doueihi worried about the impact of Brooks on his scoring. Most of Doueihi's high scores last year came without Brooks in the team

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