NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 2 - What's the magic number ?

mattnz wrote:

You would select him with a 32 average at halfback in full games (where he wasn't hooked, scoring -3), over Boyd who is also a really handy dual HOK for $50k more, average 47?

2 guys that most jumped on last season but confirmed they will never be fantasy relevant are Ilias and Taaffe. Should be on everyone's never again list.

Writing off a young guy who, apart from one game, was getting better and better all season and has excellent job security playing in a good team seems slightly shortsighted? He might not set the world on fire again this season but he's going to have a whole extra preseason of size and defensive work. Only has to average 40 to make his 150k. Also has a great bye schedule and plays r13. Could do a lot worse.

Am I missing a player at the Dragons, or will JDB play 80 + Fuimaono get good mins?

the_great_wobbler wrote:

Writing off a young guy who, apart from one game, was getting better and better all season and has excellent job security playing in a good team seems slightly shortsighted? He might not set the world on fire again this season but he's going to have a whole extra preseason of size and defensive work. Only has to average 40 to make his 150k. Also has a great bye schedule and plays r13. Could do a lot worse.

This is what appeals to me, he only has to hold his own and allows me to go bigger in the tricky centre position, not picking some rooky centre and crossing my fingers.

This was my team on the 29th Jan. Despite me telling myself that I would leave it alone until TLT.

Hodgson
Murray Haas Cheese
Penrith Edge Storm Edge
Cleary Hastings
Thompson HTF
Talau Miller CNK

TMM Gilbert Hopgood Boyd
Gennings Alamoti Perham Doorey

65K ITB

Well, I'm a hopeless case and I've been tinkering... Is it better? I think so...

Robson
Cotter Tapine Cheese
Penrith Edge Storm Edge
Cleary Burton
Thompson Alamoti
Perham Miller TMM

Gilbert Hopgood Boyd HTF
Stone Doorey Fuimaono Luke

33K ITB

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:

This is what appeals to me, he only has to hold his own and allows me to go bigger in the tricky centre position, not picking some rooky centre and crossing my fingers.

I will be having a close look at him when I decide to get serious about putting a team together.....strong team, good bye schedule, 2nd year, guaranteed spot etc etc, all of those things add up to an improved result. As has been noted, he doesn't have to shoot the lights out he just has to get better.

While someone like Tanah Boyd is only $50k more and has DPP, the risk associated with Holbrook fucking around with his spine (or even getting the arse) is much higher.

Not saying I'm going to pick him but I'm not going to dismiss him either.....hopefully he has had some intensive long range kicking coaching in the off season

the_great_wobbler wrote:

Writing off a young guy who, apart from one game, was getting better and better all season and has excellent job security playing in a good team seems slightly shortsighted? He might not set the world on fire again this season but he's going to have a whole extra preseason of size and defensive work. Only has to average 40 to make his 150k. Also has a great bye schedule and plays r13. Could do a lot worse.

I'd be interested in Ilias if it wasn't for Souths' draw, where attacking stats might be limited. He improved a lot towards the end of the season, was posting 50s in the play-offs, and had a good World Cup.

Definitely not one to write off, but black book rather than start for mine.

mattnz wrote:

Just wrote up my 2023 team tracker which is linked in my profile, where I explain my team structure and rationale.

Spending big on high end MID and HLF with value, going really cheap with value in EDG, CTR and WFB, to be able to afford the high end MIDs.

Nice team,

Can't really get behind Tino - think he's a rung well below the top tier of Haas/Yeo/Murray/Cotter/Tapine - he also played prop with similar mins in 2021 and was no where near 60 average (averages at his price) and also has early bye, honestly more of a late season pick up after Origin as last bye is R16

Everyone complaining about distinct lack of centre options! Zac Cini named at centre! No more silly than picking Illias, with the draw from hell over Boyd as your cheap half!

My team is done. The only bye round issue is Rd 3, which no doubt most people will have anyway, right up to the Rd 13 nightmare. Not sure if there is 13 players I want from that round. I probably have 8 currently for Rd 13 already! What could possibly go wrong?

Sadrugu named prop for cowboys trial - currently a 250k wfb in fantasy

Jirah Momoisea Getting first crack at edge for parra

Interesting

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Sadrugu named prop for cowboys trial - currently a 250k wfb in fantasy

Jirah Momoisea Getting first crack at edge for parra

Interesting

Are you playing QLD cup fantasy

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Sadrugu named prop for cowboys trial - currently a 250k wfb in fantasy

Jirah Momoisea Getting first crack at edge for parra

Interesting

I think Laurie (Tigers FB) was in as a FRF a couple of years ago (Supercoach I think) but alas he never played that year as was still at Penrith.

What are we reading into Chan starting and Katoa bench for the Storm (with Loiero and Sims not named)?

Camo123 wrote:

Are you playing QLD cup fantasy

Loooool gotta hold out hope he gets left edg mate

He was so good in the World Cup

The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:
I think Laurie (Tigers FB) was in as a FRF a couple of years ago (Supercoach I think) but alas he never played that year as was still at Penrith.

Fond memories of SST's first year as a WFB/2RF where he was a bench middle with an insane PPM.

Camo123 wrote:

Nice team,

Can't really get behind Tino - think he's a rung well below the top tier of Haas/Yeo/Murray/Cotter/Tapine - he also played prop with similar mins in 2021 and was no where near 60 average (averages at his price) and also has early bye, honestly more of a late season pick up after Origin as last bye is R16

He played 5 games at prop last season, scoring < 60 in just 1 of those games (a 49). His game has really grown and he was on fire when he switched positions at the end of last season. He has kept big minutes, and in the new prop role is a primary ball carrier (187m per game) and with that has added an offload that wasn't there when he last played prop (1.8 per game vs 0.1 per game) and busts tackles. Had massive scores just from a huge work rate, not relying on any tries. He has been playing like Carrigan, but doesn't have a Haas in the team competing for minutes and is the Captain, so will stay on the field for big minutes.

rhinoceroo wrote:What are we reading into Chan starting and Katoa bench for the Storm (with Loiero and Sims not named)?

That this is the first week of trials and you cant read anything into anything

Moanaman wrote:

That this is the first week of trials and you cant read anything into anything

Yeah, probably. Although I *am* reading into it that Loiero will be first choice (unless he's injured, who knows with Storm?). Sims we obviously still have no idea whether he'll be playing second row or lock.

rhinoceroo wrote:What are we reading into Chan starting and Katoa bench for the Storm (with Loiero and Sims not named)?

40 mins each to see who partners Loiero. Sims to play in the middle?