NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 11 - The case of the mistrusted team lists

Can somebody read me in on why MCK is suddenly an 80 min Edge player? What injury returns are forcing him out in the short run?

wolfking wrote:Trades are;

TMM - Thompson
Katoa/Talau - Carty

Whichever one of Talau or Katoa I do sacrifices cover for now and trading Katoa means I only have one half next week if Hynes is back.  Gut feel is both are shit but more that Katoa isn't built for fantasy.  Elgey vibes.

Picking up where we left off last year with making the exact same trades

Currently locked in TMM to Thompson, and Talau to Carty is looking very likely, just leaves 0 CTR cover other than starting Thompson at WFB and WArbrick as the WFB cover.

Cash grab of carty seems impossible to resist tho

my tv broke wrote:

Ha!

I would happily punt TMM in favour of quick cash making, but that DPP HLF/WFB gives me a back up in round 4 (Tedesco bye) and round 5 (Boyd bye), so he can hang around.

I reckon his scoring can improve though. Would be nice if he can save his best scores for when I need to play him.

I really should have had some interest and done some research pre season as these are great points to remember. This comes into play for me though with trades. I guess anything can happen before then though.

Another point is, with the whole structure different this year with the byes, are players going to hang on to nuffies longer than they normally would just for the cover? I mean, can't the strategy of looking forward making sure you have cover 4 rounds ahead really stifle cash generation. Say you keep TMM for the next 5 rounds and he only scores 30's, you have cover but then you've potentially lost a position that could have gained a lot of coin by then in still trading early for a more decent cow. I guess no one knows this year.

multiple.scoregasms wrote:

I'd back him in for another 60+ score looking at the bench. I have no doubt he will be holdable up until the bye, but I think considering him a captaincy option is over blown

I agree, he may well be a captaincy option, but we don't have enough data

wolfking wrote:

I really should have had some interest and done some research pre season as these are great points to remember.  This comes into play for me though with trades.  I guess anything can happen before then though.

Another point is, with the whole structure different this year with the byes, are players going to hang on to nuffies longer than they normally would just for the cover?  I mean, can't the strategy of looking forward making sure you have cover 4 rounds ahead really stifle cash generation.  Say you keep TMM for the next 5 rounds and he only scores 30's, you have cover but then you've potentially lost a position that could have gained a lot of coin by then in still trading early for a more decent cow.  I guess no one knows this year.

FWIW, the choice this week on who has to go is between Garner, TMM, and Alamoti.

Garner - Yep, it does make sense to punt him, but there isn't much wrong with giving him another week either. Ivan said he was happy with his effort but it will take a bit of time for the new guys to gel into how they play. Of course, he might actually be thinking "drop him" next week.
TMM - Likely poor scoring but as I said, gives me cover.
Alamoti - Probably comes good, but I don't really trust him to string scores together at the moment, it could be a really slow burn there. Happy for him to be first to go of these three.


Garner obvs has a bye next week. If he still looks cooked after tonights game, then he becomes BMM next week (tbh I think BMM is going to be easy money. Left edge role is his, should be good for 35+ ish)

lukeayee wrote:Can somebody read me in on why MCK is suddenly an 80 min Edge player? What injury returns are forcing him out in the short run?

Host back next week followed by Arrow 2 weeks after that if not before.

lukeayee wrote:Can somebody read me in on why MCK is suddenly an 80 min Edge player? What injury returns are forcing him out in the short run?

Folks saying Jacob Host will take the spot back, that's all there is right now I think?

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:

Host back next week followed by Arrow 2 weeks after that if not before.

Finch wrote:

Folks saying Jacob Host will take the spot back, that's all there is right now I think?

Cheers

I've just done one trade this week, Garner - Thompson

Not much else glaring away at me from what I can see

I'm holding firm on no trades.

Can't join the Carty Party without wrecking my backline - would sell TMM but have to play all the other 250k players this week

Or something a bit sideways to restructure e.g Katoa/Cheese to Ford/Loiero/HTF as 1st trade, then Talau to Carty. But I just think the 8 extra trades are going to disappear very fast with additional byes and two extra rounds and HIA being looked at even more closely. Just want to be more disciplined this season.

Regulator wrote:Everyone, including me, who picked the cheap trash centres knew what we were picking. One week later, why abandon those intentions? Unless you think Hammer is going to keep killing it and want to get on now. There's not anything screaming go change up your week one plans to get this bloke in. Maybe Mbye if you're so inclined.

Otherwise, let your cows grow, figure out your centres down the line when the right opportunity comes along.

You only really need HSS or Alamoti to snag a try one week to get things ticking along a bit. And Talau I guess but probably not lol.

True, part of me still wants to grab Thompson just for the fact he seems to have a slightly higher floor over the three other inconsistent scorers. That said, Thompson could end up scoring the same. I have to swap Tino this week, so taking a long look at picking between Carty and Thompson today

Reklaw wrote:

True, part of me still wants to grab Thompson just for the fact he seems to have a slightly higher floor over the three other inconsistent scorers. That said, Thompson could end up scoring the same. I have to swap Tino this week, so taking a long look at picking between Carty and Thompson today  

Currently having the same debate on Thompson

Without the 9Tbs last week he scores the same as the other centres.

Obviously he get`s a couple but I would think 9 is an outlier.

He could also go out and smash it every week with souths looking to come right a bit more.

Tough desicion.

Talau just seems bang average. I realise I started with him but it seems like a silly decision in hindsight. It was always a silly decision. In 2021's version of NRL, he averaged 26 in 15 games (at centre over 70 mins) with 9 tries (pretty good try scoring rate!). Where does the improvement come from ? Didn't see much on Sunday to suggest things will change.

In 7 games without tries he cracked 20 twice.

Unless he manages to string some great games together he will go nowhere in price. I don't need another NPR doing fuck all.

my tv broke wrote:Talau just seems bang average. I realise I started with him but it seems like a silly decision in hindsight. In 2021's version of NRL, he averaged 26 in 15 games (at centre over 70 mins) with 9 tries (pretty good try scoring rate!). Where does the improvement come from ?

In 7 games without tries he cracked 20 twice.

Unless he manages to string some great games together he will go nowhere in price.

Currently in the same boat.

I think a lot of people`s thinking was improved tigers team, potentially improved scores.

Might become Thompson for me though.

My thinking on Talau was he was cheap, so didn't need to score as much to make money.
Was a bit of banking on improved Tigers team too

But it doesn't cost too much money to pivot now to a better option, just working out who that option is

Thompson probably a better option than Talau but left myself a couple of $k short of that trade this week. Talau stays.

TBh this was the last change to my team prior to wk 1 kicking off. Rationale was similar potential but TT leaves a few $$ in the bank, managed to convince myself that Talau would be better this year. Still a chance but it's shrinking.

I'll leave him until an injury or ripe cow forces another trade and leaves some $ for a proper upgrade.

As soon as Hopegood got his DPP I dropped Nicholls and brought in Garner, time to right my mistake.

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:As soon as Hopegood got his DPP I dropped Nicholls and brought in Garner, time to right my mistake.

Had Nicholls well and truly in my team up until TLT and got cold feet with him on the bench. Super annoying obviously as Wallace barely played and his try led to big cash gain after week 1.

Looks good for around 50mins, Stone being out should only help.

Only concern is I expect a low 40 average from him, probably only makes $100k from here based on that? (missed $50k by not starting with him). So not sure if he's quite worth it now.

I just don't see much money making compared to previous years. The very few with low break evens just don't have any job security. So gonna bring in underpriced guns instead of cows who I believe are 50-100k undervalued and generate team value this way while improving my scores.

After getting carrigan and Harris this week. Will be looking at Mahoney next week if illias grabs another good score against a top team I'll have to really start considering him.

Think I'm gonna lock in Garner -> Carty.

One of my big weaknesses in recent years playing has been missing good cows because of 'what ifs' coming back from injury. I missed May last year for example.

With the extra trades this year I'd rather take the risk on making cash than play it safe with boring slow burns (Sutton was the other trade in opti