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NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 11 - The case of the mistrusted team lists
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by wolfking Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:35 pm
Rabbits21 wrote:Trell is in too!
Means lots of hit ups from Thompson then.
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by The Dolphin Conspiracies Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:37 pm
Johnny Cash wrote:
Fair call!
I'm definitely interested but his fitness is a worry.
Bird has chronic arthritis which is managed by ongoing injections. He is more prone to injury than others because of this. Hardly set and forget and he will likely be cheaper (or at the very least not rise much in price. Get him if you like but he is not a priority
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by mattnz Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:39 pm
I think the most telling signal of where Matterson is likely to play is the confidence (or lack of) Arthur has shown with his bench in round 1:
Makatoa 0 minutes!
Greig 16
Momoisea 24 - Came on at 55 minutes for Doorey on the EDG, stayed with 2 HIAs in the backs.
Murchie 37 - Mostly MID, must have come back on at EDG or CTR with both LumeLume and Penis off for HIAs. Initial stint was just 25 minutes at MID.
Doorey - Came off at 55 minutes, then there were 2 HIAs in the backs that kept him on the rest of the game, hard to tell if 55 minutes would normally have been the finish without the HIAs. Way off the pace of Carty's 80 minutes that he has done many times (Doorey has never played 80).
Arthur has very low confidence in his bench MIDs, other than Murchie, who played great, but had limited minutes, and has far more confidence in Carty playing 80, than Doorey's pre-HIA 55 minutes, with Momoisea playing out the match.
My thoughts from the rotations in round 1 are that Matterson will be seen as most needed at MID and maybe playing some EDG, but it is possible that Carty isn't the EDG that loses the minutes, as it stands.
Makatoa 0 minutes!
Greig 16
Momoisea 24 - Came on at 55 minutes for Doorey on the EDG, stayed with 2 HIAs in the backs.
Murchie 37 - Mostly MID, must have come back on at EDG or CTR with both LumeLume and Penis off for HIAs. Initial stint was just 25 minutes at MID.
Doorey - Came off at 55 minutes, then there were 2 HIAs in the backs that kept him on the rest of the game, hard to tell if 55 minutes would normally have been the finish without the HIAs. Way off the pace of Carty's 80 minutes that he has done many times (Doorey has never played 80).
Arthur has very low confidence in his bench MIDs, other than Murchie, who played great, but had limited minutes, and has far more confidence in Carty playing 80, than Doorey's pre-HIA 55 minutes, with Momoisea playing out the match.
My thoughts from the rotations in round 1 are that Matterson will be seen as most needed at MID and maybe playing some EDG, but it is possible that Carty isn't the EDG that loses the minutes, as it stands.
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by mattnz Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:39 pm
Finch wrote:https://twitter.com/mitchkroehn/status/1633261088056971264?t=DXhivISR0t3xLc-fvJE0sg&s=19
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Now Lemuelu interests me.
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by mickspicks Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:43 pm
Finch wrote:https://twitter.com/mitchkroehn/status/1633261088056971264?t=DXhivISR0t3xLc-fvJE0sg&s=19
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Doesn't seem too bad?
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by Rabbits21 Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:47 pm
Probably I stuck with Thompson never left my team in lead up to round 1.wolfking wrote:
Means lots of hit ups from Thompson then.
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by Mulvy Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:48 pm
mickspicks wrote:
Doesn't seem too bad?
Yeah looks like he said something like "nice hit mate", and then shook it off.
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by Moanaman Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:56 pm
my tv broke wrote:
Always a good idea to cleanse yourself of cheese before putting in penis
Out
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Standing
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by ShadowSabre Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:07 pm
I've come to the conclusion of wanting to have as much fun as I can this season, bugger the risks.
So come on in Carty, you should have been here since round 1!
Could go the safer route of Ford or Loiero but where's the fun in that, plus could have higher reward too.
Lastly, I'm more likely to watch Eels games being a top 5 threat, than Warriors too, so the bonus of having another player to watch is a win.
This no doubt will all crash and burn and cause less fun than anticipated, but hey, YOLO (did I use that right??)
So come on in Carty, you should have been here since round 1!
Could go the safer route of Ford or Loiero but where's the fun in that, plus could have higher reward too.
Lastly, I'm more likely to watch Eels games being a top 5 threat, than Warriors too, so the bonus of having another player to watch is a win.
This no doubt will all crash and burn and cause less fun than anticipated, but hey, YOLO (did I use that right??)
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by No Worries Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:18 pm
Aardvark wrote:No Worries wrote:
I think your annalysis of his defence leaves a lot to be desired, He missed 1 tackle. For someone all at sea which would imply out of position he must have fuckin long arms.
To be fair to Rabs, Carty was paddling around in a tiny boat with a comedy beer carton hat on and a drink with an little umbrella in it.
If not tackling he's gotta make use of those unhumanly long arms for something. Using them as paddles seems appropriate, hopefully this round we can get a swinging through the trees refrence in.
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by No Worries Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:19 pm
Kick return meters should be good toowolfking wrote:Rabbits21 wrote:Trell is in too!
Means lots of hit ups from Thompson then.
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by No Worries Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:23 pm
robelgordo wrote:I'm coming around to the Carty Party btw.
If someone tells me Carty has got a new hat, I'm all in.
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by Jumping Marlin Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:32 pm
Like many, wondering about Cheese. FWIW, Cheese has been listed as starting hooker from 2020 in 31 games. Excluding one game where he lasted 2 minutes, that's 30 games.
> In those 30 games he averaged 62mins and 52 points
> He scored in 10 of those games. Averaged 61 mins and 62 points
> In the 20 game he didn't score, he averaged 62 mins and 47 points.
Assuming a try, line break and tackle bust when scoring, that's remarkably similar scoring.
In the 20 games he didn't score, he has gone under 40 points eight times. In other words, in 40% of the time when he does not score as a starting hooker, he gets below 40 points. So, on the surface, last weeks score is not really a problem.
However, 5 of his last 7 games at starting hooker he has gone under 40. Is that a trend/issue?? To be fair to Cheese, all of these games apart from last weekend were when he was not training to be Hooker.
> In those 30 games he averaged 62mins and 52 points
> He scored in 10 of those games. Averaged 61 mins and 62 points
> In the 20 game he didn't score, he averaged 62 mins and 47 points.
Assuming a try, line break and tackle bust when scoring, that's remarkably similar scoring.
In the 20 games he didn't score, he has gone under 40 points eight times. In other words, in 40% of the time when he does not score as a starting hooker, he gets below 40 points. So, on the surface, last weeks score is not really a problem.
However, 5 of his last 7 games at starting hooker he has gone under 40. Is that a trend/issue?? To be fair to Cheese, all of these games apart from last weekend were when he was not training to be Hooker.
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by Boozecluez Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:47 pm
Rabbits21 wrote:Trell trained, Moale did but looked ginger with his knee, if he’s out Tallis Duncan has an exemption to play as we would be down 7 forwards.
Will this have much effect on your bench forwards if he doesn’t pull up?
I saw Shaquai Mitchell mentioned a while back, does this help him?
Actually scrap that thought he was bottom priced
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by Milchcow Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:49 pm
Jumping Marlin wrote:Like many, wondering about Cheese. FWIW, Cheese has been listed as starting hooker from 2020 in 31 games. Excluding one game where he lasted 2 minutes, that's 30 games.
> In those 30 games he averaged 62mins and 52 points
> He scored in 10 of those games. Averaged 61 mins and 62 points
> In the 20 game he didn't score, he averaged 62 mins and 47 points.
Assuming a try, line break and tackle bust when scoring, that's remarkably similar scoring.
In the 20 games he didn't score, he has gone under 40 points eight times. In other words, in 40% of the time when he does not score as a starting hooker, he gets below 40 points. So, on the surface, last weeks score is not really a problem.
However, 5 of his last 7 games at starting hooker he has gone under 40. Is that a trend/issue?? To be fair to Cheese, all of these games apart from last weekend were when he was not training to be Hooker.
Other breakdowns that matter - what rules interpretations were the games played under? 2021 in particular had some higher than average scoring.
What fantasy scoring? TBs have been nerfed and offloads increased recently
How many of those games did he play at hooker, and how many did he move into middle rotation
I don't know the answers to all these questions.
My thinking was that at Roosters he'd be predominantly hooker and not so much middle. Round 1 that wasn't quite the case. Trend or one-off?
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by mattnz Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:55 pm
Jumping Marlin wrote:Like many, wondering about Cheese. FWIW, Cheese has been listed as starting hooker from 2020 in 31 games. Excluding one game where he lasted 2 minutes, that's 30 games.
> In those 30 games he averaged 62mins and 52 points
> He scored in 10 of those games. Averaged 61 mins and 62 points
> In the 20 game he didn't score, he averaged 62 mins and 47 points.
Assuming a try, line break and tackle bust when scoring, that's remarkably similar scoring.
In the 20 games he didn't score, he has gone under 40 points eight times. In other words, in 40% of the time when he does not score as a starting hooker, he gets below 40 points. So, on the surface, last weeks score is not really a problem.
However, 5 of his last 7 games at starting hooker he has gone under 40. Is that a trend/issue?? To be fair to Cheese, all of these games apart from last weekend were when he was not training to be Hooker.
The analysis is more when he is playing HOK only vs playing HOK then moving to lock:
HOK then Lock (with Grant) - 44 average in 53 minutes
HOK (without Grant) - 55 average in 66 minutes just at HOK
The Roosters bench this week is:
Turpin (63 minutes last week)
Hutchison
Whyte
May
With Baker averaging 36 minutes as starting prop, there are a lot of MID minutes to fill. Cheese will start at HOK but I expect him to play lots of minutes at MID when Turpin comes on. In 2 weeks he has a bye and other than JWH maybe returning next week, they are waiting for Lodge to return in round 7, before things may really start to change. If you have him as a cash cow, who is already losing money, at best he is looking like a slow burn the next few weeks.
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by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:00 pm
Mbye and Liddle splitting 50/50 or does Mbye possibly get the bulk of the minutes?
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by ShadowSabre Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:02 pm
My thoughts on the Cheese are he gets one more week to show some sort of role, with last week's match a bad representation of rotations etc.
If I dont see the role I like then he's gone with the bye ahead, and if I do see what I like then sweet one less trade and he sits a week out for the bye.
With his BE at 46 he's not in danger of losing too much cash, and in fact if he gets the right role recoups his losses from last week, and if he snags a try even better he goes up a bit more
If I dont see the role I like then he's gone with the bye ahead, and if I do see what I like then sweet one less trade and he sits a week out for the bye.
With his BE at 46 he's not in danger of losing too much cash, and in fact if he gets the right role recoups his losses from last week, and if he snags a try even better he goes up a bit more
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by mintotheimmortal Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:08 pm
If you didn't have Loeiro and did have Garner would you trade or hold.
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