NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 14 - Mark Holden

Anyone considering getting Hynes straight in if he plays?

mattnz wrote:

All failed HIAs seem to be missing games this season - apparently doesn't need to be, but pretty sure it is 100% or very close to it between rounds 1 and 2

Frizell had an HIA in round 1 and played this round

mrbrownstone wrote:Did Boyd get injured, or is the speculation just because he was a bit shit?

He was awful, missed touch from penalties twice, but mainly showed no authority that you want from a 7

Titans were abject too, so not just him

If I was Holbrook I wouldn’t be enthused at relying on him

786 - was going well but Smith and Ponga will need to make way with 47k for a ?/Preston combo.

Trade outs Uto and Garner outperformed Carty and Wilton but you can’t win them all. You can score off a double movement though

In big trouble if Boyd doesn’t start. Can’t afford Grant or Cook. Likely makes my trades very easy

Ponga -> Preston
Smith -> Mahoney

Unless there is any other viable hooker? Panthers on bye really kills a cheap gapfill Luke. Trust Wade Egan to keep scoring tries???

Thoughts on Liddle? I didn't get to watch any games today. Or is he a wait and see?

mrbrownstone wrote:Anyone considering getting Hynes straight in if he plays?

I might bite. If Trindall is out and Cleary on a bye then I need to trade in a half. May as well go guns blazing.

Rd 2 team report card:

Cook (c) - 7/10 lost points on review but better than Cleary
Carrigan - 8/10 solid as
Haas - 8/10 as above
Collins - 7/10 played 80 (great) but only scored at about 0.5PPM (not great)
E Butcher - 7/10 acceptable score but not impressing.
Hopgood - 10/10 will be hard not to captain him next week, but think I'll stick with Cook.
Boyd - 3/10 if he's in the team he probably stays, but stupid errors hurt.
Doueihi - 7/10 ok score in a shit tigers performance.
Alamoti - 7/10 much better scoring, still didn't seem to be doing a lot.
HSS - 5/10 probably his level unfortunately
Warbrick - 7/10 solid again for the investment
AKP - 5/10 pass mark
Latrell - 7/10 did nothing again but didn't crack 60 so loses a point.

Cheese - 1/10 Gooooone
E Katoa - 8/10 looked uninterested first half, but came good.
Trindall - 8/10 lets just hope for another week (or two)
Cartwright - 8/10 good score but defence was lax down his side so JS might be an issue.

Doorey - 6/10 slow burn, probably move on when opportunity arises
Talau - 0/10 your DPP won't save you now buddy (though if out next week might not bother if other trades are more advantageous)
I Katoa - 6/10 good improvement. Might need in the coming weeks
Turbo - NA

Team rating: 6.25/10 (squad) 6.6/10 (scorers)

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Lazy 692 for me just sneaking inside top 50k overall

Gone from a has been to a never was

I liked this too but it wouldn't let me. Everyone likes to post their good scores, harder post their bad ones. Chin up mate, I know you don't need the positive affirmation but keep making those good decisions and the luck will turn around.

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Staggs scored 26 then 20, should I bin him or hold to come good, I’m leaning toward hold as I have already lost a fortune and I rate broncos to win handily in coming weeks

Have other problem areas, Hodgson, being a big concern

I have Staggs as well. You take him knowing its 20s and 60s. FWIW I'm holding his draw should hopefully lead to games with more points in them. Dragons, Dolphins, Tigers, Raiders next 4. Regretting not ponying up for Herbie though he just look so much busier.

mickspicks wrote:Thoughts on Liddle? I didn't get to watch any games today. Or is he a wait and see?

He carved up, won’t have it that easy again, but played well

the_great_wobbler wrote:

I have Staggs as well. You take him knowing its 20s and 60s. FWIW I'm holding his draw should hopefully lead to games with more points in them. Dragons, Dolphins, Tigers, Raiders next 4. Regretting not ponying up for Herbie though he just look so much busier.

Exactly my thoughts, I have HSS and Alamoti to rotate as other centre so I think I’ll stick with staggs

You’re right though herbie is so much more consistent and involved, plus left side attack is humming

We’ll take our lumps together!

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Staggs scored 26 then 20, should I bin him or hold to come good, I’m leaning toward hold as I have already lost a fortune and I rate broncos to win handily in coming weeks

Have other problem areas, Hodgson, being a big concern

You've got yourself in a bit of a fix there. But centre trades are always fraught with danger. I picked him for my draft team, and I'm betting you picked him for not disimilar reasons. Stay the course I say and hold. But, without trying to sound too smug or condescending though, consider next year picking cheapies or guns at centre. And by guns I mean, someone not actually playing centre. Like a forward or halfback. and if they don't exist? Cheapies

730 here with quite a few problems to sort. Played Cheese, CNK, Ford, Talau and Boyd.

Some cash generation happening in my emergency that I’m grateful for.

Two trade week for sure, fingers crossed we can get another week out of Trindall.

It’s only week two and we’ll all have plenty of opportunity to come back from this. It just stings a little.

Liddle 66 (56 min)
Bird 52 (47 min)
Lomax 46
Sloan 42
BMM 24 (71 min)

Tino 70 (70 min)
Fifita 63
AKP 26
Boyd 25

AL wrote:

Frizell backed up but can’t think of any others. Definitely taking a more conservative approach this year it would seem. Rumours seems to suggest Cat 1 is / will be a mandatory week off.

Yeah, I had a bit of a rant on this point last night, but Frizell did indeed back up, proving there is a very slight chance a player can back up the weekend after. Far as I know, he was the only one, though, of several. Speaking specifically on Ford, it didn't seem that heavy so maybe there's a chance he plays this week, but as we all know, how it looks really has no relevance as to what comes next. Anyway, guess we'll find out soon enough. A few others - especially many of the ones from today - obviously won't be backing up next week.

Anyway, bit deflated as I ponder dropping a quick post as I run through the scores for the first time today. After so many awesome matches to start of 2023, it has to be said that these two were shit. Sure there was plenty to immerse oneself in during that first match, but the quality of football was quite poor for a lot of the day. Not to take away from a great win for the Knights, and a solid first outing from the Dragons. But yeah, it's all left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth to round out the round.

Let's have a look at some of these scores...

Frizell - was certainly going along well, but didn't look good for his near future prospects.

Doueihi - as touched upon, great score for what we had to sit through.

Laurie - that's a pretty impressive score without tries. Good start to the season for him.

Uto - you're loving it as an owner, but what a terrible decision that try obviously was.

Kepaoa - someone else mentioned it, but wouldn't this be wonderful if there was any longevity to it?

Papali'i - man, he must he hating this. Him and Koro, to come from where they were last year. Absolutely terrible performance from the Tigers.

Brodie Jones - so not that anyone in the entire game of Fantasy needs another EDG in their team, but is he next in line to cover Friz? Assume his price took a little hit tonight, but as noted, wouldn't even cop a passing glance, surely, with the plethora of EDG options available at the moment.

Naden - wonder how many dreamers jumped on after last week to find out why no one else did.

Brailey - hate to see it, and real shame for the owners who took an otherwise solid punt. Will be interesting to see what this does to his price and allure in coming weeks.

Talau - obviously the circumstances can't be predicted, but I really hesitated on my Talau to Hammer trade this week as I had the greatest fear it'd just turn out sideways. What pushed me over the line was actually picturing this scenario in my head, where Talau scored like this, and Hammer scored like he did, and how annoyed I'd be at myself for not pulling the trigger. Like the majority, I had a very up and down week, but really happy I got this one thing right.

Ponga - just something you truly hate to see. Imagine his parents sitting there watching this keep happening. Man, the whole situation is just really sad. Any honest fan of rugby league, no matter who you follow, wants to see him out there weaving his magic, and no doubt in the world he wants to be out there weaving his magic. But time and time again... Yeah, it's just shit. Hope he's okay, physically, and in his mind.

Tino - nice bounce back for owners.

Liddle - try obviously helps, but nice numbers. I suspect cheap hookers may be in demand this week (quality joke already made on the subject earlier on so I'll leave it at that).

Fifita - lol, how does he do it? But that's exactly why I want him in my team.

Bird - very solid. Limited minutes, but a point for every one of those minutes played. Shame there's so much else that needs attention, or I'd like to be able to look into this acquisition. He didn't leave my pre-season team until the injury news and it'd be great to sew up a CTR position, fitness pending.

Sloan - another one that never left my pre-season team until I decided in the last week I wanted money makers from day one (of course that did not happen). Looks appealing, but again, unless we had four trades, not really someone I can give any attention to at this stage.

Randall - this just tweaked in my head, but what was he doing while Boyd was playing hooker? I didn't even think about that.

AKP - solid, for owners. Surprised he got to that with only one try, to be honest.

Boyd - I remember rapping with a co-worker in the pre-season about my hesitancy to pick Boyd as I hate picking players I just don't rate. And obviously the dude's doing better things in footy than I, but I just don't rate him at all, and he proved every bit why tonight. Don't think he's a good player, and based on tonight, surely he's lost his role for next week. And out of the blue, I want/need to trade out two hookers from my team and however I play it, assuming Preston is a must, I'll only have one hooker next week. And I'll lay it out square and simple as my mind sits tonight... with the NAS news, I'm very seriously considering just cowing up in the HOK role and going with Garlick and getting 30's and price rises, which is about on par, score-wise, with Cheese and Boyd anyway, minus the price rises. Just hope the rest of my team can carry a weak HOK option for now. Which I think I could be cool with, if I'm content elsewhere in my team. Lots more to consider through the week, though.

BMM - oh, that doesn't look too good for owners. Seemed he may score okay watching it, but maybe not. Not terrible, I guess.

And that's about where I'll leave it tonight. As noted, a bit downtrodden after those matches, but it's going to be a lively-as-all-balls week of trade contemplation and consideration. Touch wood, I only have a couple I need to discard, but so many I want in. Dilemma is going to be if Boyd is named again, but surely not. Oh, and the other massive factor for me, that others have mentioned, is Trindall. If Hynes is actually back this week, that's going to leave me in a world of hurt. If Trindall and Cheese are out, and Boyd is either out or unplayable, I need a HLF and HOK which means no Preston. Can't imagine there will be many teams not facing some kind of minor or major chaos throughout the coming week, though.

Oh, and a little extra fuck you to Boyd, for not putting up two extra points to crack 800 this week. Appreciate that all things considered I should run with 798... but I really thought I was locked into 800+ with Boyd just needing to score 27 in the last match.

Anyway, hope everything looks better in the morning light tomorrow, for those that copped the full brunt of the weekend's atrocities.

Getting in early. Probably going to need a hooker soon enough

TU: Koroisau at 655ish
TD: Mahoney at let’s call it 710
Comment: stump up for grant ya cheapskate

Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:Getting in early. Probably going to need a hooker soon enough

TU: Koroisau at 655ish
TD: Mahoney at let’s call it 710
Comment: stump up for grant ya cheapskate

Who's the Tiger's Plan B if Simpkin is out for a game or two? Koro might get a nice little springboard and they surely can never play that bad again. Surely?

Well it seems like you may actually need to watch a team play a competitive game before calling them definite wooden spooners.

Dragons same as last year - will beat most of the bad teams, probably Roosters on ANZAC Day, injuries take their toll, lose to every decent team, finish 10-12th.

I liked what Liddle did out of dummy half, he really is dollar store Cook.

robelgordo wrote:Well it seems like you may actually need to watch a team play a competitive game before calling them definite wooden spooners.

Dragons same as last year - will beat most of the bad teams, probably Roosters on ANZAC Day, injuries take their toll, lose to every decent team, finish 10-12th.

I liked what Liddle did out of dummy half, he really is dollar store Cook.

I don't know if anyone cares, but Mulvy jnr#2 is still top of the family comp.  And when I say family comp, I'm not talking mum, dad and 2.5 annoying ones. My family comp has nine and the wife's family comp has 13. Most of us are adults even. He's two clear ahead in both. I'm pretty close to letting him decide my next fantasy conundrum.

Edit: he tipped Dragons which is why it's relevant to quoting you

Don't ask how I go at tipping.