HomeE Butcher is tough one. Scores against two “easy” games have been pretty shit. It might be worth holding to see how he scores against “harder” opponents. He’s not losing big dollars. Getting Walsh in looks very tempting though!
NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 14 - Mark Holden
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 14 - Mark Holden
by GarethEllisismyDad Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:26 am
Stefano uto owners, what was your assume that of him
I missed the first half, that dubious try gave a very good score
Are you lot happy with him?
I am pleased but not enthralled with what I’m seeing
I missed the first half, that dubious try gave a very good score
Are you lot happy with him?
I am pleased but not enthralled with what I’m seeing
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Nothing dubious about the try. Having said that, if we were two points behind (or the six we should have been -morons) then no doubt it would have been disallowed.GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Stefano uto owners, what was your assume that of him
I missed the first half, that dubious try gave a very good score
Are you lot happy with him?
I am pleased but not enthralled with what I’m seeing
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He's going to be around $620k, priced at 43, which is his career average, but performing much higher than that in the first couple of rounds with great "base", plus tries on top of that.
Week 1 without a dubious HIA, he matches Walsh's round 2 score without a try. Round 2 if you exclude his tries, line breaks and 5 of his TBs, he still beats Walsh's score this week.
I'm not saying I am not getting Walsh, likely comes into my team next week, just prioritizing the order that they come into the team based on BEs.
With Walsh you are watching the game going, how is he possibly not scoring more than 50?
With Kiraz you are thinking, his team was thrashed, no tries, how did he still score 50?
From his 14 games at wing last year he had a 98 a 73 and a couple scores around 50 but then he also had 8 scores below 30. No reason to think he wont still have the low scores along with the high ones this year right? (as most WFBs do especially wingers). So now your buying at potentially near his peak price and you've missed two of his higher scores?
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mattnz wrote:
He's going to be around $620k, priced at 43, which is his career average, but performing much higher than that in the first couple of rounds with great "base", plus tries on top of that.
Week 1 without a dubious HIA, he matches Walsh's round 2 score without a try. Round 2 if you exclude his tries, line breaks and 5 of his TBs, he still beats Walsh's score this week.
I'm not saying I am not getting Walsh, likely comes into my team next week, just prioritizing the order that they come into the team based on BEs.
With Walsh you are watching the game going, how is he possibly not scoring more than 50?
With Kiraz you are thinking, his team was thrashed, no tries, how did he still score 50?
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You'll have been thinking this two times in his 14 games on the wing last season.
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GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Stefano uto owners, what was your assume that of him
I missed the first half, that dubious try gave a very good score
Are you lot happy with him?
I am pleased but not enthralled with what I’m seeing
He stays for a while. Still looks a good player, just struggling with an unsettled pack and new distribution/plays. Still think he can average 40, but won't get there fast.
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GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Stefano uto owners, what was your assume that of him
I missed the first half, that dubious try gave a very good score
Are you lot happy with him?
I am pleased but not enthralled with what I’m seeing
I'm not happy with him. Former owner.
Will keep a lowish BE after that bunker gift and still getting good mins, so an easy hold for a couple more weeks and re-evualate.
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mattnz wrote:
He's going to be around $620k, priced at 43, which is his career average, but performing much higher than that in the first couple of rounds with great "base", plus tries on top of that.
Week 1 without a dubious HIA, he matches Walsh's round 2 score without a try. Round 2 if you exclude his tries, line breaks and 5 of his TBs, he still beats Walsh's score this week.
I'm not saying I am not getting Walsh, likely comes into my team next week, just prioritizing the order that they come into the team based on BEs.
With Walsh you are watching the game going, how is he possibly not scoring more than 50?
With Kiraz you are thinking, his team was thrashed, no tries, how did he still score 50?
Every season we get a Too / Garrick / Nofo / Rapana. He is my pick to be this season's but could be better than any of them.
It’s a punt you don’t need to be taking, but good luck
Also semantics - but there’s no way 620k is priced at 43. That would mean a MN of 14400. Don’t think it’s been that high since about 2019
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GarethEllisismyDad wrote:Stefano uto owners, what was your assume that of him
I missed the first half, that dubious try gave a very good score
Are you lot happy with him?
I am pleased but not enthralled with what I’m seeing
I had him at number 18 but happy I didn't punt him. Got 58 minutes and while his score would have been crap again without the try, it gets his price moving and after last week, looks playable for now.
Not sure why anyone would drop him now to be honest.
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 14 - Mark Holden
by GarethEllisismyDad Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:32 am
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I'm not happy with him. Former owner.
Will keep a lowish BE after that bunker gift and still getting good mins, so an easy hold for a couple more weeks and re-evualate.
Yeah I’m just pondering him as he’s an asset I can use to downgrade to a cheaper warm body and use cash to fix a problem
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I think if you want to pick Kiraz, just pick him. Hoping for a hot run of scores from a winger, its clearly a punt.. go for it, maybe it continues. I don't think you can justify this one with statistics/etc. Wingers are wingers and the way a game flows will always affect their scores, that is the nature of standing out on one side of the field combing your hair.
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Re: NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 14 - Mark Holden
by GarethEllisismyDad Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:33 am
wolfking wrote:
I had him at number 18 but happy I didn't punt him. Got 58 minutes and while his score would have been crap again without the try, it gets his price moving and after last week, looks playable for now.
Not sure why anyone would drop him now to be honest.
The minutes was encouraging that’s true
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It’s a punt you don’t need to be taking, but good luck
Also semantics - but there’s no way 620k is priced at 43. That would mean a MN of 14400. Don’t think it’s been that high since about 2019
I've been using 14000 this week, I think Milch said 139xx last week, but not sure.
I think it kept plummeting down to under 12500 the first few rounds of last season, so maybe does the same, especially with the carnage this round.
620k at 13500 would be 46 or 44 at 14000.
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Kiraz ain’t playing the storm every week!
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From his 14 games at wing last year he had a 98 a 73 and a couple scores around 50 but then he also had 8 scores below 30. No reason to think he wont still have the low scores along with the high ones this year right? (as most WFBs do especially wingers). So now your buying at potentially near his peak price and you've missed two of his higher scores?
I am an advocate of the recency bias theory, especially for a guy who was a rookie winger last season, and under a new coach who looks to have given him license to take risks.
Think of the team the coach came from, that gave us Too, May, he has suddenly increased his average running meters by 70 meters a week, to match the output of Panthers wingers. More runs, also means more opportunities for TBs and OFs.
None of the top fantasy wingers blitzed their first season, it came in years 2 and 3 and none of them have an offloading game like he does, which is clearly being encouraged and paying off for Bulldogs.
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Ok, so I need a Jamal Fogarty ala 2020 style 250k half to appear this week.
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mattnz wrote:
I am an advocate of the recency bias theory, especially for a guy who was a rookie winger last season, and under a new coach who looks to have given him license to take risks.
Think of the team the coach came from, that gave us Too, May, he has suddenly increased his average running meters by 70 meters a week, to match the output of Panthers wingers. More runs, also means more opportunities for TBs and OFs.
None of the top fantasy wingers blitzed their first season, it came in years 2 and 3 and none of them have an offloading game like he does, which is clearly being encouraged and paying off for Bulldogs.
You might end up being right but it's very hard to make those conclusions after two games. Could still be the same player he was last year but just had a couple of his boom games.
To'o and May play for a team that dominates almost all of their games which plays a big role.
Good luck on the punt though
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my tv broke wrote:I think if you want to pick Kiraz, just pick him. Hoping for a hot run of scores from a winger, its clearly a punt.. go for it, maybe it continues. I don't think you can justify this one with statistics/etc. Wingers are wingers and the way a game flows will always affect their scores, that is the nature of standing out on one side of the field combing your hair.
Yeah there's some picks in fantasy that have no statistical backing behind them, and you just do it based on eye test. Walsh was that guy for me, I saw him in the trials absolutely tearing it up and it seemed like a matter of time before he'd pop off.
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WT Winfield wrote:
I've been using 14000 this week, I think Milch said 139xx last week, but not sure.
I think it kept plummeting down to under 12500 the first few rounds of last season, so maybe does the same, especially with the carnage this round.
620k at 13500 would be 46 or 44 at 14000.
Rabbits needs to understand this when whining about MTB's site
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my tv broke wrote:Ok, so I need a Jamal Fogarty ala 2020 style 250k half to appear this week.
I dont own Katoa but I think there is potential there as he gets more confident. 21 tackles on the weekend only 3 misses, plus plays for the top team in the comp
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