NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 15 - Cheese and Garlick Naan

Revraiser wrote:Faaark the Doohi rumour, it basically means don't trade twice as u might be left marooned

Being marooned is a right of passage for a Qlder. Welcome mate.

Just looking over Walsh's 2021 for Warriors, when he was pretty amazing for them, pushing RTS out of fullback, (note this is the same season that Turbo went nuts for an 80 average).

Walsh averaged 48 that year, with 0.5 tries and 0.7 TAs. Seems like a realistic target for him this season.

If you adjust to the new scoring and remove his kicking meters and goal kicking, he averaged 38. If he kicks on and is even better than that first season he wowed us and had games where he was just as good as he looked at the weekend, he is still just in the 40s without kicking and goal kicks.

I guess the "smart" play is to stick with Boyd a few more weeks, isn't it?

I know this is a terrible idea, but this is what I came up with through the day-

Trade Boyd to Levi, leaving a healthy bank balance for Brailey in R5 after he's dropped a nice slab of cash. In that time, I'd assume Boyd would keep losing cash, but I thought if I pivoted to Levi with a BE of 13, I could make some cheeky cash and then leave him as my 21st man, back up hooker option once I get Brailey in, accruing cash until it's finally time to upgrade to one of the big guns. There's not a lot to be made from Levi, but I'd hope he'd score pretty consistent 30's and hold his price around that mark, and be a useable option in R10 when Brailey would be out.

But I don't know about all this. Common sense tells me that I probably don't lose or gain much by sticking with Boyd. I just wish Titans weren't playing Storm with Storm coming off a big loss. I'll be annoyed in Boyd duds it up again (as I expect he will) and Levi keeps chugging along somewhere in that 30-40 range, making money. BUT! I'd be more annoyed if Boyd somehow managed to actually come out and score well this week; christ forbid, even hit his BE or beyond, and I'd wasted a fickle trade on getting rid of him.

But I don't know. I'm not sure.

The Levi idea's terrible, isn't it?

GarethEllisismyDad wrote:

cant argue with the above, preston is playable in 1-17 and a cashie though so i see why trading for him now makes sense

one thing about katoa is he does look to have huge potential, i might be underrating him

Yeah I'd definitely be getting on Presto too, but I think trading CNK is a better move over the low BE cashies. Gotta be patient with these guys sometimes and take the marathon, not a sprint approach.

Just hoping for a game where Katoa jags a big play with a couple TBs, LB and a try (or assists) and suddenly he gets going.

my tv broke wrote:

He was injured, PCL

Interesting, do you know if that is why he missed the 2nd trial? I thought he was a certainty for that. If so, he could be a bolter.

mattnz wrote:

Can bring him back when he has bottomed out, getting 80 minutes at HOK, without Turpin on the bench.... may mean he never comes back, but so be it.

Turpin on the bench is only a problem insofar as it means the Roosters are still short on middles and likely to suck, or BS9 is still touch and go....and likely to suck. I feel like you think he's stealing BS9 minutes, or BS9 is not a hooker but a mid or something, but if Kaufusi doesn't smash him so hard r1, we're not having this conversation.

mattnz wrote:

Interesting, do you know if that is why he missed the 2nd trial? I thought he was a certainty for that. If so, he could be a bolter.

No, no idea. Probably? The cowboys site says hes returning from a PCL injury.

Their pack is pretty stacked though? He might get the odd game with injuries etc but Luki is definitely coming into that 17. Tamou will drop out, but wheres the minutes otherwise for sadrugu. Hes probably a low minute guy even if he squeezes a game in like neame was early on

Leilua may or may not be back pretty soon too

my tv broke wrote:

My other issue is, to get walsh, it has to be Boyd to go.

To get Miller, i can punt CNK.

Would prefer to keep Boyd even though Ive got no confidence in him.

Urgh

I also have no confidence in Boyd, but like many he's holding the team together as HLF/HOK cover. Still tempted to punt him though.

Camo123 wrote:

Think Holmes is a sell over Origin - Cowboys Origin players have a horrendous schedule over Origin where they would miss 13 (Origin), 15 (bye), 16 (Origin), 19 (Origin) + 2 rounds of Origin turnarounds (meaning R18 is the only unaffected round)

Therefore not sure Holmes is a legitimate keeper (as in keep for rest of season, no doubts on producing good enough scoring)

Not sure how this didn't get an upvote (fixed)

Teeth Eater wrote:I guess the "smart" play is to stick with Boyd a few more weeks, isn't it?

I know this is a terrible idea, but this is what I came up with through the day-

Trade Boyd to Levi, leaving a healthy bank balance for Brailey in R5 after he's dropped a nice slab of cash. In that time, I'd assume Boyd would keep losing cash, but I thought if I pivoted to Levi with a BE of 13, I could make some cheeky cash and then leave him as my 21st man, back up hooker option once I get Brailey in, accruing cash until it's finally time to upgrade to one of the big guns. There's not a lot to be made from Levi, but I'd hope he'd score pretty consistent 30's and hold his price around that mark, and be a useable option in R10 when Brailey would be out.

But I don't know about all this. Common sense tells me that I probably don't lose or gain much by sticking with Boyd. I just wish Titans weren't playing Storm with Storm coming off a big loss. I'll be annoyed in Boyd duds it up again (as I expect he will) and Levi keeps chugging along somewhere in that 30-40 range, making money. BUT! I'd be more annoyed if Boyd somehow managed to actually come out and score well this week; christ forbid, even hit his BE or beyond, and I'd wasted a fickle trade on getting rid of him.

But I don't know. I'm not sure.

The Levi idea's terrible, isn't it?

I stopped reading as soon as you mentioned Levi tbh

Hard to keep up tonight, still six pages behind, take anything I say with even more extra grains of salt.

my tv broke wrote:

No, no idea. Probably? The cowboys site says hes returning from a PCL injury.

Their pack is pretty stacked though? He might get the odd game with injuries etc but Luki is definitely coming into that 17. Tamou will drop out, but wheres the minutes otherwise for sadrugu. Hes probably a low minute guy even if he squeezes a game in like neame was early on

Leilua may or may not be back pretty soon too

He might get two games at centre with Hiku out? Not fantasy relevant but there's more room there than there is in the pack with Luki and Dunn back.

(obv the Matt narrative could be that he keeps the spot for the season over the current Kiwi international)

rhinoceroo wrote:

I stopped reading as soon as you mentioned Levi tbh

Yeah sorry Teeth.......what Rhino said lol. I immediately kept scrolling too.

Mulvy wrote:Hard to keep up tonight, still six pages behind, take anything I say with even more extra grains of salt.

Posts like ours are what causes this shit.

rhinoceroo wrote:

I stopped reading as soon as you mentioned Levi tbh

Sorry teeth but yeah, so did i.

Tried to come up with a pun around how trading in Levi would kill Danny chance of a good finish this season, but it didnt seem to work so i moved on

mattnz wrote:

Rabbits21 wrote:
Just been on the Tigers forums and they are saying AD won’t play. If that’s the case I might have to hold Boyd this week otherwise I have no halves cover if AD is a late out.

Want Tohu but am 4K short of Tohu in for Cheese in one trade.

Thoughts on E. Butcher to Preston and Cheese to Tohu?

Could then look at Carty or Trindall to Walsh or Bird the week after.

Are they saying what injury AD has and likely timeframe out?

No, its just repeating the same rumour that was on Facebook

Or if you want the sum total of relevant information, I can cut and paste it to you here
"Word is AD is out,"

I'm not a betting man, but I'd seriously bet a lot of money Doueihi lines up this weekend.

mattnz wrote:

Yep, plenty of highly rated fullbacks that didn't translate to fantasy, Lockyer is another.

Kennedy is the obvious one.

filthridden wrote:

Kennedy is the obvious one.

Forum's punchy today!

Contrastinghobby wrote:

rhinoceroo wrote:

Cheese is going to be a massive buy in a few weeks, under 500k tryscoring hok/mid dual with no Origin and 60-80 minutes. Doesn't mean he isn't a sell now.

Thats what I mentioned a few pages back, even if he scores 35-40 he has pretty much bottomed out now. Damage is done
He can hang around and cover the 2 tricky positions while my 2rf make the cash
The cheese redemption arc starts now (Thinking another shit round before the bye though haha)

If it was just the price drops, I'd be happy holding Cheese. But there are a couple of things that concern me. The injury looks like it won't go away this week so not going to be surprising if he plays limited role and/or gets low fantasy output. Then he has bye next week anyway.
Best case is probably that he is good to go after the bye - how likely is that and is his best good enough to justify holding on to him for a few weeks of crap.

Had more bad scores than good last year, I am not convinced even at his best he'll be a regular top scorer. Even when he bottoms out will you want him in your team?