NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 32 - All trade in's must have a full set of teeth

Camo123 wrote:

Walker’s one would have been the tackle where Hammer was just short and if he reached out it would have been double movement

The others the Dolphins missed out on have always qualified and the one short of the line typically doesn't, although somehow Walsh got one before the line where the player passed the ball, so the tackle was never completed. Lots of inconsistencies on them this season. Seems to be favouring one on one tackles this year, over 3 guys stopping the player at or over the line.

Khany wrote:Not a fan of fitzys 4 forward benches, maybe he views Graham as a utility as well as a middle.

Yeah, would seem a waste to have a guy like Trindall there as well. Graham can cover halves and Nikora or Wilton can move to CTR if needed.

Jai Arrow looked good last night. Will he get a crack at origin? A lot of forwards to compete with:

Prop: Welch, Tino
Lock: Carrigan
2RF: Kaufusi, Nanai
Benchies: Collins, Capewell, DFifi, Big Papa (final Swan song?), Cotter, Flegler, Gilbert

If he's not selected could be handy over the origin period.

I understand they'd be reluctant to release trindall on loan, he'd be a useful for someone like the dolphins

Khany wrote:I understand they'd be reluctant to release trindall on loan, he'd be a useful for someone like the dolphins

Trindall must be on small money at Sharks, could get signed at the Tigers for $800k+

mattnz wrote:

The others the Dolphins missed out on have always qualified and the one short of the line typically doesn't, although somehow Walsh got one before the line where the player passed the ball, so the tackle was never completed. Lots of inconsistencies on them this season. Seems to be favouring one on one tackles this year, over 3 guys stopping the player at or over the line.

This is exactly right.

I'm fine with the Walker one but you'd think held up over the line which is where the stat stemmed from would be counted too. Maybe you're right where they are not counting multiple players now in those situations? Not sure, haven't really cared enough to take notice, it's just interesting and becoming much more subjective.

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:Sounds like Keaon is out for at least 2 weeks.

Fiddlesticks

Camo123 wrote:KBrom 1 game with early plea, Murray fined

Geez, Kenny must have a fairy godmother out there.
Clear intentional shoulder to the head, early, no intent to compete for the ball.
Hitting a kick receiver, before he takes the bomb.
Should have been a SO, plus at least 2 weeks with the early plea.

mickspicks wrote:

Actually a crime Graham is still being selected. Maybe this week it makes sense but moving forward he should drop out imo (he won't though).

He's the 'club captain'. Earned the right to go on his own terms etc. etc.
While I agree that it makes no sense from a football perspective, it does add to the club's appeal to future players to see that getting injured / old doesn't mean automatic kicked to the curb.
(Of course Melbourne, Roosters etc. are more brutal and have been more successful)

Fitz sort of talked about Graham being more important to the tean than solely what he offers on the field etc.

I guess 17th man in most squads these days is a bit of a dead spot/injury cover so if you can bring leadership then why not

@multiple.scoregasms There's an imposter over on FB. I thought it was you when I saw the sandals.

my tv broke wrote:Fitz sort of talked about Graham being more important to the tean than solely what he offers on the field etc.

I guess 17th man in most squads these days is a bit of a dead spot/injury cover so if you can bring leadership then why not

Not to mention Graham can cover plenty of positions, middle and edge forward as well as the halves and potentially centre (though I would think they would rather move Nikora out there and play Graham at right edge if a centre went down).

Thoughts on Ray Stone? MID who seems to have secured the starting role and 50min.
Two scores over 30 and will be priced a touch over 20. Plays the first bye.

Also pet peeve of the website - every time I open it up it reverts to showing last round's games and I have to scroll along to see this week's fixtures.

my tv broke wrote:Fitz sort of talked about Graham being more important to the tean than solely what he offers on the field etc.

I guess 17th man in most squads these days is a bit of a dead spot/injury cover so if you can bring leadership then why not

Similar to what Jarrod Croker has to offer in terms of leadership & smarts on the field

filthridden wrote:Thoughts on Ray Stone? MID who seems to have secured the starting role and 50min.
Two scores over 30 and will be priced a touch over 20. Plays the first bye.

Wallace is out this week from his concussion so I doubt Stone will keep that starting role. Also, Kenny Bromwich has been playing 80 mins on the edge since round 4 (the week Stone started playing 50 mins), and with Felise Kaufusi returning from suspension next week, Kenny will probably play as a MID once he's back from his own suspension in round 9 (my guess is 20 mins on the edge and 40ish in the middle with Lemuelu playing 60ish mins on the edge)

Stone's PPM is also very weak (average of 29.25 points in 51.75 mins across the 4 game sample, so a PPM of 0.56), so unless you think his PPM will increase over time, or you think that he'll keep starting and getting 50 mins even with Kenny B and Wallace back, then I don't rate him.

Unless you're desperate for a cheapie under 300k to make another trade work and don't already have a bunch of nuffies in your 18-21, just don't do it.

Strongly considering getting Smith over Couchman.. Smith will be very handy over the origin period helping Boyd cover HOK and covering my MIDs. His DPP is much more valuable than Couch's MID/EDG considering the plethora of edges we all have, myself included.

What are your thoughts guys? In 50+ minute hooking games these are Smith's averages (filtered without Harry Grant to remove those games where Smith played like 15 minutes at hooker then 40+ at lock):

2020: 54.8
2021: 58.3
2022: 51.7

Surely he's due a good score, and the Roosters are also slowly getting better each week. I feel like now might be a great time to jump on.

Edit: Only downside is I can't go Hopgood > Matto with my remaining funds. Perhaps I'll ride Hopgood one more week and move him on next week, or downgrade him to Couchman to free up funds for a trade next week.

Chewie wrote:

Similar to what Jarrod Croker has to offer in terms of leadership & smarts on the field

Yeah pretty much. Croker is the spiritual leader of that Raiders team and they looked a lot better with him back last week. Croker himself also defended very well against Staggs, and he's also the first choice goalkicker.

The question is who gets dropped at full strength, as the Raiders have 6 guys and 5 spots in the back 5 (Savage, Rapana, Cotric, Croker, Timoko, Kris)

Bethany_B wrote:

Wallace is out this week from his concussion so I doubt Stone will keep that starting role. Also, Kenny Bromwich has been playing 80 mins on the edge since round 4 (the week Stone started playing 50 mins), and with Felise Kaufusi returning from suspension next week, Kenny will probably play as a MID once he's back from his own suspension in round 9 (my guess is 20 mins on the edge and 40ish in the middle with Lemuelu playing 60ish mins on the edge)

Stone's PPM is also very weak (average of 29.25 points in 51.75 mins across the 4 game sample, so a PPM of 0.56), so unless you think his PPM will increase over time, or you think that he'll keep starting and getting 50 mins even with Kenny B and Wallace back, then I don't rate him.

Unless you're desperate for a cheapie under 300k to make another trade work and don't already have a bunch of nuffies in your 18-21, just don't do it.

Great advice. Hard to find decent cheap cows at the moment, more traps than real opportunities.

Snatchpato wrote:Strongly considering getting Smith over Couchman.. Smith will be very handy over the origin period helping Boyd cover HOK and covering my MIDs. His DPP is much more valuable than Couch's MID/EDG considering the plethora of edges we all have, myself included.

What are your thoughts guys? In 50+ minute hooking games these are Smith's averages (filtered without Harry Grant to remove those games where Smith played like 15 minutes at hooker then 40+ at lock):

2020: 54.8
2021: 58.3
2022: 51.7

Surely he's due a good score, and the Roosters are also slowly getting better each week. I feel like now might be a great time to jump on.

I don't think either of them are really that good, but at least Cheese has job security, while Couchman is really only safe until Murderous Molo returns from suspension.

If Boyd is your only hooker and you're bringing in Cheese to cover that, then that's fine. He's one I have my eye on as a plan B if I can't make my 2-week plan work (basically Warbrick, Sloan, Alamoti and Loiero for Teddy, Tapine and 2 cheapies over the course of the next 2 weeks), as I will need a MID by round 12 since I have Ford as my 3rd MID and no cover.