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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 35 - Man U need to consider Joseph now

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    Post by Mulvy Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:42 pm

    Finch wrote:

    Option 1 if I had to pick, but really I don't like either personally

    Yeah neither do I. Cheers.
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    Post by mickspicks Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:43 pm

    Honey Badger wrote:

    Surely Couchman plays more mins this week. Is 20 mins in the middle and then 20 mins on the edge when BMM runs out of puff too much to ask


    Couch to get 25mins max imo with that bench
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    Post by mickspicks Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:46 pm

    hj1991 wrote:

    Huh, I actually like that. if i'm gonna have a black dot on my roster it may as well be a base price one

    Sounds like Sheens likes Bula at the back. May shift Laurie to the halves if they lose again this week.
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    Post by Back Nine Bandits Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:49 pm

    Does anyone else play around with their teams spots.

    For example looking at a certain player and which position they scored best on your bench 1-4 or if they play better starting.

    Also benching Harry Grant for Tanah Boyd this week to hopefully give him a wakeup call and hopefully Tanah boyd steps into his new opportunity.

    Or am I crazy?
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    Post by danseels1985 Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:50 pm

    mickspicks wrote:

    Sounds like Sheens likes Bula at the back. May shift Laurie to the halves if when they lose again this week.

    Fixed it for you
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    Post by Bethany_B Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:51 pm

    Back Nine Bandits wrote:Does anyone else play around with their teams spots.

    For example looking at a certain player and which position they scored best on your bench 1-4 or if they play better starting.

    Also benching Harry Grant for Tanah Boyd this week to hopefully give him a wakeup call and hopefully Tanah boyd steps into his new opportunity.

    Or am I crazy?

    I always start players that play early in the round and bench guys playing late in the round to give myself maximum flexibility. For example, I've traded in Joey Manu this week but I've put him on the bench so that if there's any shenanigans 1hr before kickoff, I can simply reverse the trade and keep E Katoa.

    The only exception to this is for VC/C and looping purposes.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:52 pm

    Back Nine Bandits wrote:Does anyone else play around with their teams spots.

    For example looking at a certain player and which position they scored best on your bench 1-4 or if they play better starting.

    Also benching Harry Grant for Tanah Boyd this week to hopefully give him a wakeup call and hopefully Tanah boyd steps into his new opportunity.

    Or am I crazy?
    I order my players by price
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    Post by mattnz Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:52 pm

    Back Nine Bandits wrote:Does anyone else play around with their teams spots.

    For example looking at a certain player and which position they scored best on your bench 1-4 or if they play better starting.

    Also benching Harry Grant for Tanah Boyd this week to hopefully give him a wakeup call and hopefully Tanah boyd steps into his new opportunity.

    Or am I crazy?

    If you think Grant cant outscore Boyd, he is a sell and use the cash elsewhere. Grab Hynes if you dont have him.
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    Post by filthridden Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:52 pm

    I'm really stuck on trades this week. Not convinced enough with any of the cashout options and have burnt myself going after the flavour of the week once too many times.

    I'm going to wait a week and either get lucky with a good score from one whomever I decide to play out of Stone/AKP/Couchman or just take the points hit/potential value drop from trade outs.

    ITT, Cartwright on the chopping block.

    I still cant believe Eli Katoa is yet to dot down.
    The guy scored 6 tries in his first season (13 games) and scored 4 in his 40 games since.
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    Post by Back Nine Bandits Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:54 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    If you think Grant cant outscore Boyd, he is a sell and use the cash elsewhere. Grab Hynes if you dont have him.

    Not that at all mate, both are still scoring just one is on the bench.

    Was just a muck around post in regards to running my team`s starting 17 in funny ways
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    Post by Reklaw Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:55 pm

    As a non-Bird owner, not sure I can hold off him any longer. Even though I need mids
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    Post by filthridden Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:56 pm

    Back Nine Bandits wrote:

    Not that at all mate, both are still scoring just one is on the bench.

    Was just a muck around post in regards to running my team`s starting 17 in funny ways

    I reckon a lot of the forum are superstitious about this. I often "drop" a starter to the bench to try give them a rev up Laughing
    Usually order by those playing first into the 13 but if it's between Katoa/Loiero or another two players playing the same game I'll put the one who scored higher in the previous week to start and bench the other Laughing
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    Post by Back Nine Bandits Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:58 pm

    filthridden wrote:

    I reckon a lot of the forum are superstitious about this. I often "drop" a starter to the bench to try give them a rev up Laughing
    Usually order by those playing first into the 13 but if it's between Katoa/Loiero or another two players playing the same game I'll put the one who scored higher in the previous week to start and bench the other Laughing

    Yeah exactly, bit of fun, this is what I was trying to target the post at.
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    Post by Bethany_B Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:03 pm

    filthridden wrote:@Bethany_B been providing some good insights/advice the last couple of weeks. Top form!

    Always seems to be the way on this forum that people are who up near the top are spending time trying to help others do well too rather than shut out their competition. <3

    Cheers Smile

    I've mostly just shared my thought processes and what's worked for me, and if that helps others do well in fantasy then great.

    The main things I've learned this year are the following:

    * Eye test often beats statistical analysis. If you like the look of a player and can't exactly explain why, be more willing to trust that gut feeling.

    * The corollary to this is stay away from plodders wherever possible, no matter how much of a sure bet they seem. This is why I don't like the idea of buying Host or Crossland, they just don't pass the eye test. I've managed to avoid Doorey and BMM using this method, but did get sucked into buying Keppie when I went against my rule (luckily I got 60k out of him and moved him on quickly)

    * Don't go for wild captaincy picks. I learned this the hard way last year but to use a finance analogy, no fund manager can reliably beat the market. I've captained Cleary every week he's been available, and captained Hopgood in round 3 like everyone else did. If you have any PODs (Cook and Fifita in my case), the fact that you own them is enough of an edge on your competition.

    * Don't buy the guy who just got a huge score, buy the guy who you think will get the next huge score. This isn't a hard and fast rule, and sometimes, the same guy who just got a big score is also likely to get another one (e.g. SJ and Hynes), but chasing last week's points rarely ends well.

    Still a long way to go in the season and plenty of people ranked lower than me have saved a few more trades, and last year I struggled a lot during Origin so there's no reason why anyone on this forum can't run me down.

    Eventually things will go wrong for me but at the moment I'm enjoying the good times while they last, I just hope they last 2 more weeks so I can have a crack at the monthly prize.
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    Post by Aardvark Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:11 pm

    Back Nine Bandits wrote:

    Yeah exactly, bit of fun, this is what I was trying to target the post at.

    Some people are quite literal
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:12 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    If you think Grant cant outscore Boyd, he is a sell and use the cash elsewhere. Grab Hynes if you dont have him.
    lol!

    Geez Matt this one was pretty straight forward


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    Post by robelgordo Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:12 pm

    Just got back from camping so out of the loop (should have some fantasy time tomorrow before the deadline) but see ManuMania is running wild brother. I can see the appeal - worst case is Walker returns after the Dragons win on ANZAC day and you’ve paid slight overs for a keeper CTR.

    Still think I’d prioritise Teddy?

    JDB feels subgun to me, I see it as a stepping stone to the guy, but he’s not the guy himself.

    I might be a bit more inclined to punt on Bula but probably not.

    Haven’t seen a lot of other options discussed so it all seems a bit dire
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    Post by Chewie Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:18 pm

    Back Nine Bandits wrote:Does anyone else play around with their teams spots.

    For example looking at a certain player and which position they scored best on your bench 1-4 or if they play better starting.

    Also benching Harry Grant for Tanah Boyd this week to hopefully give him a wakeup call and hopefully Tanah boyd steps into his new opportunity.

    Or am I crazy?

    Yeah I punish underperformers at times
    But I'm carefull to keep my trades reversable (always make trades 1 at the time)
    Play those with early games in the 13
    And set up the l**p if needed
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    Post by Oz Sport Mad Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:24 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:

    Cheers Smile

    I've mostly just shared my thought processes and what's worked for me, and if that helps others do well in fantasy then great.

    The main things I've learned this year are the following:

    * Eye test often beats statistical analysis. If you like the look of a player and can't exactly explain why, be more willing to trust that gut feeling.

    * The corollary to this is stay away from plodders wherever possible, no matter how much of a sure bet they seem. This is why I don't like the idea of buying Host or Crossland, they just don't pass the eye test. I've managed to avoid Doorey and BMM using this method, but did get sucked into buying Keppie when I went against my rule (luckily I got 60k out of him and moved him on quickly)

    * Don't go for wild captaincy picks. I learned this the hard way last year but to use a finance analogy, no fund manager can reliably beat the market. I've captained Cleary every week he's been available, and captained Hopgood in round 3 like everyone else did. If you have any PODs (Cook and Fifita in my case), the fact that you own them is enough of an edge on your competition.

    * Don't buy the guy who just got a huge score, buy the guy who you think will get the next huge score. This isn't a hard and fast rule, and sometimes, the same guy who just got a big score is also likely to get another one (e.g. SJ and Hynes), but chasing last week's points rarely ends well.

    Still a long way to go in the season and plenty of people ranked lower than me have saved a few more trades, and last year I struggled a lot during Origin so there's no reason why anyone on this forum can't run me down.

    Eventually things will go wrong for me but at the moment I'm enjoying the good times while they last, I just hope they last 2 more weeks so I can have a crack at the monthly prize.

    Some good general tips there - especially the next big score point.

    If my uni days taught me anything (granted about a million years ago), it was that often by helping my mates, I was explaining and generally clarifying it to myself at the same time.

    I reckon a bit of that occurs in this forum, even when responding or talking about someone else's options etc.

    My selfish lack of forum posting is also how I am explaining my lacklustre and generally shithouse performance this season....
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    Post by AL Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:24 pm

    Aardvark wrote:I know it's only a week but I'm thinking Couchman is a bust....tempted to just swap him to Host and forget it ever happened.

    (didn't pay enough attention last Sunday or would have reversed the BMM to Couch trade)

    I’m not sure what happened last weekend but I’ve now got both Couchman and BMM in my side! Just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse.

    I’m hoping BMM’s week in ressies has turned him into something more useful than a red dot.

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